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« on: March 10, 2020, 11:51:01 AM »
Would it be possible to go back to the Feb 16 build and then work from that? It might be easier, considering the current build has so many issues. Also, if you’re planning on doing super small bleeding edge builds, maybe take Kix’s idea and get a small team of private testers to help.
Scrapping the thousands of small changes we have made since February 16th isn't something I'm comfortable with.
I think the better course of action is to very clearly define what we don't like about the current state. I suspect that there are probably less than 10 things that need to be addressed. Fix them. Move on.
Honestly there arent many issues to be fixed at all, its just that the few issues are pretty large ones and will need some rework.
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« on: March 10, 2020, 10:14:52 AM »
Roger.
Either physics changes or content changes, but not both.
The problem is that sometimes new content brings new physics. This is the case with brushless motors. It will also be the case with batteries, pneumatics, etc.
The best solution is going to probably involve lots of very small bleeding edge builds.
Pretty much
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« on: March 10, 2020, 09:49:24 AM »
ju I’d recommend changing 1 thing at a time. If you don’t like the physics, only work on that for the next build. If you want new parts, work on those in a different build. When you put a sh** ton of stuff into one build, the game becomes pretty much unplayable, or at least has some frustrating glitches. I understand that you want to develop the game as much as possible, but at least make sure that you’re posting stable builds on itch.io. Anything untested should be bleeding edge.
Maybe even private testers
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« on: March 10, 2020, 06:25:41 AM »
Ya here is the flipper.
As i said on discord. The new features are nice and all, but stuff being broken is what it tiring me, and as much as i have spent hours in the game, im just losing interest
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« on: March 10, 2020, 01:52:09 AM »
This tournament is postponed. All the bots that have been entered are deleted. The game is a mess as of now and i dont see a possible fix soon so yeah.
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« on: March 10, 2020, 01:46:22 AM »
Ive tested the game pre work (and im typing this on a bus actually)
I feel like you have not listened to me at all and instead of fixing the current issues, you have just added stuff to game.
Follow up of some sorts, to say what is good and what is bad.
Well the spinup time is slower which is technically more realistic on small diameter spinners, but the larger it is, the slower it gets, or in hobo's case that is just the motor.
The brushless has no torque whatsoever on 10:0.1 gearing and opposite, its not usable for drive at all.
Flippers dont flip, it seems like the axle doesnt move at all.
When a vertical spinner hits the floor it loses all of its torque, thus making it impossible to selfright
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« on: March 09, 2020, 07:14:13 PM »
Its our lad chad the dad, Flipster, the MVP of Light VS Dark: Rematch
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« on: March 09, 2020, 06:14:21 PM »
 No point of posting there sere as i get more feedback on discord, but eh
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« on: March 09, 2020, 03:43:32 PM »
How many have we racked up now?
Around 50, however i dont want to release even if we reach 64 because atm the game is really broken, also some reps with the latest version have more weight to use
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« on: March 09, 2020, 02:41:45 PM »
I love this showcase, so much creativity: THIS IS WHAT WE NEED MORE OF FROM PEOPLE! More please! 
Go small man Loving these bots. I see you have embraced the obj life
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« on: March 09, 2020, 11:57:15 AM »
The goal of all of this is that you guys won't have to do a motor swap from your February 16th build, but the motor itself will be larger.
This can be a solution. Btw when will the bot scaling tool be out? Cuz we may need to upscale our bots to fit the bigger mesh of brushless.
min440303,
I'm going to use Lotus's spinner in conjunction with a TP Power TP100 brushless motor (the same motors used in a lot of heavyweights) to calibrate the new MOI and KE computations.
There is a great online calculator that shows the basic computation at http://runamok.tech/RunAmok/spincalc.html. Here's what I'm shooting for:
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Ok that seems like a good thing, it is a nice middleground between a brushed A40 and an ETEK. I just hope it doesnt have a negative impact
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« on: March 09, 2020, 09:06:48 AM »
Tbh id first fix the fundimental issues that we are having rn before you add more stuff into the game, id say as of now, keep the feb 16 brushless, and fix the weapon phasing issue, and we would have a solid build that would be great base for tournaments and other stuff
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« on: March 09, 2020, 07:29:43 AM »
The 3” brushless will be in the same ballpark as an AmpFlow A28-150. Not useless by any stretch, and completely appropriate for drive once they are geared down. It would be an absolutely killer motor for a featherweight. It has the highest power to weight ratio of any motor in the game.
We need a six inch brushless.
I agree that we need some bigger brushless motors for heavyweight weapons. Let me talk to Wham to see what we can come up with.
And there goes the compactness of a brushless
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« on: March 09, 2020, 06:57:38 AM »
The 3” brushless will be in the same ballpark as an AmpFlow A28-150. Not useless by any stretch, and completely appropriate for drive once they are geared down. It would be an absolutely killer motor for a featherweight. It has the highest power to weight ratio of any motor in the game.
However it will be total trash for HW bots which is not really great as most people make HW bots
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« on: March 09, 2020, 06:42:22 AM »
I haven’t used them yet.
A quick sum up: Feb 16, we got brushless, they were great, however the torque could be lowered Feb 28th brushless got a weird buff that made them more than op Next update would nerf the brushless to the ground to the point where normal brushed motors would work better as a motor for spinning weapons
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« on: March 09, 2020, 06:32:29 AM »
Here's the file of the million joule lightweight:
Thanks for this!
With the proper numbers for the 3" brushless motor the robot becomes a lot less usable. 2/3 of its weight is in the weapon, and the weapon spins up really slowly, taking about 10 seconds to get to 3000 RPM. It maxes out at 300,000 Joules, but in combat it is typically hitting with about 100,000 Joules because of the long spin-up time.
I need to do some hand-calculations to estimate the moment of inertia, but I suspect it is a little off.
EDIT - I did the calculations. The MOI is off by a factor of 10x or so. Spinup time is much too short in the game. Correcting the MOI will drop the energy way down. This 0.5 meter diameter x 13 mm thick steel spinner should have an MOI of approximately 0.7 kg * m^2 and a peak KE of approximately 60,000 Joules. It should only be at a few hundred joules and a few hundred RPM after 3 seconds, taking about 150 seconds to get to top speed. It should be completely useless as a weapon in robot combat.
Yay! More realistic! I can’t wait to build something with a brushless!
You'll build nothing with this brushless.
I’ll see...
You did not read did you, those brushless will be 10 times weaker than they were in feb 16 version.
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« on: March 09, 2020, 04:33:02 AM »
So a 20kg disc will take 150 seconds to reach his max speed? This sill severely cripple the brushless motors and make them unusable without serious gearing down, in which case it will have terrible rpm, and then it would be useless next to ampflow motors. This is a game remember. Id suggest using feb 16th's brushless stats but lower the torque by a quarter or a third
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« on: March 08, 2020, 06:33:49 PM »
What other good mod packs that are either total conversions, IRL or replica packs am I missing that I should add?
RWRA2 mod Also my rep pack is only intended for fighting bots that were made in it, please refrain yourself from using it elsewhere
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« on: March 06, 2020, 06:29:38 PM »
This thread went down the sh**ter real fast
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« on: March 05, 2020, 03:35:36 PM »
Good thing noone is from croatia :muscle but infact depression as its a sh**hole country:
FR let people choose what they can
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