Author Topic: plazmic infernos dsl showcase (Read 65589 times)

Badnik96 · « **Reply #180 on:** June 24, 2012, 02:37:01 PM »

You should use hex plates to attach the weapons. Those are steel extenders, correct?

Tweedy · « **Reply #181 on:** June 24, 2012, 02:37:49 PM »

Badnik96 · « **Reply #182 on:** June 24, 2012, 02:39:36 PM »

Hex Plates should be lighter and make the razors hit evenly.

Tweedy · « **Reply #183 on:** June 24, 2012, 02:51:14 PM »

how should i eat up the rest of the weight ?
i tried bottom protection but it won't attach to the chassis for some reason

Badnik96 · « **Reply #184 on:** June 24, 2012, 02:57:21 PM »

Get those third razors back on!

Tweedy · « **Reply #185 on:** June 24, 2012, 02:59:32 PM »

done, now it weighs 396.5

NFX · « **Reply #186 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:03:52 PM »

I'd also suggest a wider stance, maybe attach the motors to the discs too. That'll let you spin faster, and not give as much of a chance for your vulnerable center to get attacked.

Tweedy · « **Reply #187 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:23:38 PM »

not sure how to use up the last of the weight

Naryar · « **Reply #188 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:24:13 PM »

Change the chassis so you can attach the discs to multi's directly, AND still be able put motors and 2-3 ants inside, as well as the CB.

NFX · « **Reply #189 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:25:59 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on June 24, 2012, 03:24:13 PM

Change the chassis so you can attach the discs to multi's directly, AND still be able put motors and 2-3 ants inside, as well as the CB.

He just needs to rotate the ME's the other way. One side of the ME's has the AP slightly embedded inside it, so some stuff won't attach, like the DSL disc.

Tweedy · « **Reply #190 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:45:37 PM »

NFX · « **Reply #191 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:50:58 PM »

Looking pretty good so far. You could upgrade the armour with the remaining weight, but you could also raise the ME's by one notch to make it invertible.

Tweedy · « **Reply #192 on:** June 24, 2012, 04:08:06 PM »

i raised the ME's but because of that the hypno wheels don't constantly touch the ground

NFX · « **Reply #193 on:** June 24, 2012, 04:33:46 PM »

That just means you need bigger wheels. ME's should be one notch up from the baseplate to make them as in the middle as possible on the lowest chassis possible. Even so, with Hypno Wheels don't give perfect invertibilty on NPC's. Mini Wheels would be a better choice, they give a slightly wider radius for much less weight, if you don't mind the slightly lower grip and HP. Vlad Wheels would also work, but they're much larger than Hypnos, and stability might become an issue.

Gauche Suede · « **Reply #194 on:** June 25, 2012, 06:23:52 AM »

(please don't mark it as a bad advice.........) you should just lower the armor to Ti1(cause SnSes knock opponent away form their chassis, so it's okay to have a not-so-strong chassis armor) (Fair enough) and try to get technos. (No, that last piece of advice is bullsh**. Try and use technos on a flat design like this and tell me how it becomes epically unstable)

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NFX · « **Reply #195 on:** June 25, 2012, 06:32:19 AM »

I wouldn't advise adding Techno Wheels, they're a LOT wider than Hypnos, and I'm concerned they may extend past the razors. Vlads would be fine if Hypnos don't offer invertibility, or Mini Wheels. Perhaps you could add some Side Panels to the top and bottom of the discs, to offer a little bit of protection should something get an opportunity to attack them.

Naryar · « **Reply #196 on:** June 25, 2012, 11:56:16 AM »

Gauche, if you are unsure about a piece of advice do NOT post it. Especially not when you are new and you have still plenty of things to learn. I've noticed that while most of your advice is OK, a part of it is just awful and this will not stand.

If you didn't already get it, "use technos and hypnos because they're the best wheels" is a generality, not something you must forcibly try to apply to each and every bot. Technos are only good on MW's or heavier anyways, unless you are using 1WD drive.

Now for why half of your advice is crap on that last post : because with technos the bot will become far taller, and far more unbalanced. It will mostly only have 2 points of contact, and will be far more prone to flying, generally failing and... you know why ? clone that bot, give it technos and try it in battle. You'll learn it by yourself.

martymidget · « **Reply #197 on:** June 26, 2012, 03:44:04 AM »

/shameless plug

But yes, if you were to add techno's you'd have to rethink the design. Hypno's are fine for this, as long as it's invertible. Depends on how fast it spins..how does it fare against Paper Cut (the one in NAR, 4 or 5 :P)?

Tweedy · « **Reply #198 on:** June 26, 2012, 12:24:36 PM »

my team for real designs AI ( mini beast has been replaced by F-Zero 2.15 )

and as for how it fares against paper cut i'm not sure as I don't have NAR AI installed but i'm going to install it soon

Badnik96 · « **Reply #199 on:** June 26, 2012, 12:56:17 PM »

I hope you don't mind that Boombox is the main MW and the other three are in the three "extra" slots. If you don't like it I can change it however.