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« on: May 24, 2008, 05:08:02 AM »
I wanted to build a bot, able to win against Critical Emergency. It took some time to figure out, how to go under it. The rest was easier. Mainly I tryed to do more damage than CE does.

Here is Taged Toolbox. It's a HW pop up and in fact smaller than CE.

4 NPC fast with micro wheels, 4 mag snappers, 12 iron spikes, 10 battle packs.



And this is the match result.:biggrin:


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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2008, 08:46:56 AM »
Looks good. Insides?

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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2008, 06:40:10 PM »
Yep!
But, for keeping secret "my most recent and highly genious" designs, I can offer only this view of the bot.
"Big brother Venko" is watching me, you know.  :lol:




Excuse me, I couldn't resist to this joke. :biggrin:

Here are the insides.
There is in fact nothing special, except the wheels on the NPCs are the smallest type possible. This results in nearly zero ground clearance and makes it harder for other bots to under it.
The battle packs are stacked 2x3 and 2x2. Mag snappers 1 and 4 are in end position, to have a better view. The NPCs are sligthly overlapped in the middle of the bot, making the chassis a bit narrower.


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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2008, 07:53:39 PM »
looks good.

big brother from "1984." nice joke. i love refernce jokes.
You got my vote for RA2 Wizard. Always and forever.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2008, 08:00:13 PM »
Anyone want some soma?
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2008, 08:08:35 PM »
Quote from: The RA2 Wizard;8551
looks good.

big brother from "1984." nice joke. i love refernce jokes.


So, we are allready two.

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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2008, 06:59:43 AM »
Since i decided to sign in for the next BBEANS, I try to make a decent MW. I don't know how it comes, but they allways come out as HWs. :(

I don't think this will be the one, I will use vor the contest, but at least it does meet the realistic rule. Even it drives well inverted, it's not really invertible, because his disc is to far off the ground in upside down position. It needs a wall or any obstacle to selfright.



I don't know if Biohazard is a reference. However, OCM was not able to destroy it, but the difference in damage is promising.
 


I was not sure about the protection, but it seems to be extraordinary resistant.
And as usual, some venkoism:
The inside picture is not provided, since there is nothing special to show there. Exept the never seen before, very secret stacked battle packs. Please look at the absolutely genious design of the chassis, like the letter M for Mixer. :biggrin:

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2008, 08:40:04 AM »
Huh. Your weapons are too fragile. And look at that long steel extender... he is easily breakable.

I'll use a shorter extender, allowing for some more protection, make all the design more compact and make him an undercutter (putting a tortoise sheel plate instead of that typhoon spike)

However, i LOVE the visual.

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 09:07:58 AM »
i would say enter that into the bot of the month for DSL MW (if the pattern goes, it will be next)
You got my vote for RA2 Wizard. Always and forever.

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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 09:26:34 AM »
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Huh. Your weapons are too fragile. And look at that long steel extender... he is easily breakable.

I'll use a shorter extender, allowing for some more protection, make all the design more compact and make him an undercutter (putting a tortoise sheel plate instead of that typhoon spike)

However, i LOVE the visual.

Ok I din't test it very longtime, but the extender didn't get broken yet.
What the heck is a tortoise sheel plate and where can I find it? I was looking for something shorter, but couldn't find anything.
Btw, the typhoon spike does a little damage too, how about the tortoise sheel plate?


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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 09:55:33 AM »
It is the small dark hexagonal piece of steel, i think it is on extras. It doesnt makes a lot of damage but, it could make an undercutter,... with a disc big enough (ill suggest the 100cm) and some spikes on it, and placed very close to the ground, you could get under most frontal weapons and touch the chassis/wheels.

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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2008, 11:37:36 AM »
It's under extenders, actually.
I think that would help.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2008, 05:54:18 AM »
Thanks. I will check it out, if I can get that to work well, this could be a possible candidate for BBEANS.
I made allready some type of undercutter, but it's kind of tricky to use it, because it tend to turn away as soon it is under the other bot. To offend this I gave him a helping hand. :biggrin:
Btw, its on a snapper, to be used as a srimech as well. However this design might be funny, but not satisfactory.
 




Meanwhile I have another soup on the fire, that might be ready to be tasted soon.

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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2008, 06:11:36 AM »
Quote from: Cooker;8590
Meanwhile I have another soup on the fire

HAHA! This is pure French! Yep, I know, it's not easy to use English expressions when you're not a native English speaker... same for me, but this one was really obvious.

(he actually means that he is making another robot design)

I like your undercutter design. But if i were you, ill make him invertible, cause that srimech must weigh something like 50 kg, perhaps a lottle more, and if you count the battery to make him function, that makes 65.

So, I'll just put the NPC64's a little higher, use bigger wheels (something lof the size of the Vlad wheels would be enough), and finally use metal skirts, perhaps attached diagonally (each to a black and red multi extender), to make a frontal V shape, and try to trap the other bots, without mentioning that this would give you a little more side defense. An certainly it will be lighter.

And normally, if you make a good undercutter, invertibily is not a big problem cause you strike popups too with your weapon. Oh, and yeah, an undercutter is not supposed to be under the other bot, if then you make very few damage. It is supposed to be perhaps a little less than 1cm above the ground. I have to admit it's tough, but pretty rewarding.

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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2008, 07:14:42 AM »
Soup: I made actually allution to my forum avatar Cooker (an automatic cooker from the first adventure of Wallace & Gromit: "A great day out", for those who didn't know).
The extender is not only a srimech, but it is there, to stop my bot from drifting away sidewards, as soon it hits another bot.

Venkoism: This arm is a very cool and never seen before, absolutely new invention of my genious myself and you are only jalous because it was not you who found it. :tongue:
Edit: You may not copy it, unless you ask my permission first!
« Last Edit: May 26, 2008, 07:19:13 AM by Cooker »

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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2008, 07:41:14 AM »
I'm thinking about making a rectangular asymetric dustpan (built with skirts) at the side where your Clepblade is spinning, so then the Clepblade will deflect bots towards it, block them in there and still rip on them. And you could add a wheel for the anti-drifting. But suit yourself.

Huh. Could do better : a true Venkoism is that:

This arm is VERY VERY VERY good, unique by me and with it i beat all DSL MWs !!!!!!
It is self-righting mechanism never seen before. So if you copy this bot, you are LOSER
cause it means your bots are lame, and if you fight with my bot they die in 1 touch...

It is brilliant idea but this bot is worse to my VERY VERY VERY secret bots !!!! and very good too! But i will not show to you! Cause they are so good you will copy me... so...

And read CAREFULLY my post before answer !!

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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2008, 08:00:33 AM »
Remember what you say? : "Big brother Venko" is watching you all.
But you know that big brother can watch, but can expel from THE HOUSE too...
Translate : enough jokes for my address, or i will turn the medal on his back side and you will sorry this time...
About my "SECRET" bots..., you will see them in S4 so dont worry...Oh NO...DO WORRY, 'cos you will lose a lot...

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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2008, 08:12:24 AM »
Expel from the house? What are you even talking about?  

O.K. man, we'll see if you enter into Starcore 4. The level is WAY harder than S3, just to make you know... because S3 has... something like 3 years, and the techniques have improved a lot...

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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2008, 08:39:17 AM »
Quote from: Naryar;8594
HAHA! This is pure French! Yep, I know, it's not easy to use English expressions when you're not a native English speaker... same for me, but this one was really obvious.


So.... Talking about soup is French? It made sense to me....

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2008, 06:43:11 AM »
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So.... Talking about soup is French? It made sense to me....


You got it!