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12yearOldPwner · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2012, 03:36:32 AM »

IRL bot building is a challenging one.

Gropaga · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2012, 04:07:28 AM »

Quote from: 12yearOldPwner on June 01, 2012, 03:36:32 AM

IRL bot building is a challenging one.

no, Not IRL. No popups,juggler, etc....

Badnik96 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2012, 05:28:15 AM »

Quote from: Gropaga on June 01, 2012, 04:07:28 AM

Quote from: 12yearOldPwner on June 01, 2012, 03:36:32 AM
IRL bot building is a challenging one.
no, Not IRL. No popups,juggler, etc....

WHAT

NFX · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2012, 05:30:17 AM »

Basically no bots that abuse the in-game physics to any degree. Popups, flails, jugglers, Flying Guillotines, TRFBD's, they would all be disallowed.

cephalopod · « **Reply #24 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:28:12 AM »

NFX gets it right - you now have 3 explanations

basically, no popups, jugglers, flails, fg, trfbd, etc.

cephalopod · « **Reply #25 on:** June 01, 2012, 10:32:11 AM »

Can people who voted simply HW give a reason for not voting all non-irl banned? Just out of curiosity, because I really like the idea.

madman3 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 01, 2012, 11:05:36 AM »

Quote from: Craaig on June 01, 2012, 10:32:11 AM

Can people who voted simply HW give a reason for not voting all non-irl banned? Just out of curiosity, because I really like the idea.

I'm not sure. I like your idea but there are a few issues I can think of. First of all, what about static SnS (like Pinball style stuff) or SnSnS? They're not strictly as OP as standard flail sns. Also, Jugglers are no less legitimate than VS with lots of teeth like Cash Cow as they're powerful for the same reason, likewise with HS, since they both ignore the rule of energy distribution you see IRL.
Flails and Popups sound like legit things to remove but TRFBD or any other FBD are pretty legit if you don't use flails, and would simply be drums with big wheels and in any sense are probably much more legit than Frequency Rammers or even Rammers with tonnes of weapons.

Reier · « **Reply #27 on:** June 01, 2012, 11:50:21 AM »

Because we're sick of IRL

Jonzu95 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:16:06 PM »

Quote from: Reier on June 01, 2012, 11:50:21 AM

Because I'm sick of IRL

FTFY

Enigm@ · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:21:09 PM »

Quote from: Reier on June 01, 2012, 11:50:21 AM

Because we're sick of IRL

Quoted for truth. Awesum's tourney is the only IRL one I plan on entering.

madman3 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:31:48 PM »

Quote from: Reier on June 01, 2012, 11:50:21 AM

Because we're sick of IRL

From Craaig's description, it's more like standard DSL Realism but with IRL bot types. Still not what I'd favour, but it sounds like a sound concept.
But yeah, IRL is a huge failure for actual tournaments because it's not a matter of actual building ability or bot quality (in terms of aesthetics), but more about whether you entered a drum or not; there's also pretty much a guaruntee that certain bot types will lose to others, (see my match against GF93 in BoF 2, where I beat him because I entered a HS and beat his flipper very easily, or my match against Ty in the original Battlebots, where my rammer got annihilated because he entered a spinner).

cephalopod · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:06:59 PM »

IT'S NOT IRL.
I CONFIRM FOR THE 5TH TIME.
IT IS NOT IRL.
Simply outlawing bot types you don't find in real life - so basically, no Flails, Jugglers, Popups, Flying Guillotines or TRFBD.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.
I WOULD NOT RUN AN IRL TOURNEY 'COS I LIKE ACTUAL DESTRUCTION :P

madman3 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:10:16 PM »

Quote from: Craaig on June 01, 2012, 01:06:59 PM

IT'S NOT IRL.
I CONFIRM FOR THE 5TH TIME.
IT IS NOT IRL.
Simply outlawing bot types you don't find in real life - so basically, no Flails, Jugglers, Popups, Flying Guillotines or TRFBD.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.
I WOULD NOT RUN AN IRL TOURNEY 'COS I LIKE ACTUAL DESTRUCTION :P

I'm still not really getting the stuff about Jugglers; if you're going to ban them, you better ban FS, Drums, Disk VS, and Frequency Rammers, because they're all effective for the same reason and is much more accurate to IRL effects than a Disk VS that hurls bots out of arenas despite huge no.s of teeth.

martymidget · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:23:17 PM »

It would just be easier if you flat out banned Flails and Popups- thats the two dominant bot types gone, at least.

And it also amuses me that many people can't seem to read or comprehend what they've just read :P

cephalopod · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:36:10 PM »

That was the plan, I just didn't want to seem completely biased by banning them. If people prefer I can just can flail weapons and popups.

Naryar · « **Reply #35 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:37:24 PM »

Why so dramatic ? It's just standard DSL building with some bot types banned.

Or just do something original and use different weight multibots. Adds strategy and planning to the fight.

cephalopod · « **Reply #36 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:41:10 PM »

Or a combination of the 2? I could roll with that, very much so in fact.

Naryar · « **Reply #37 on:** June 01, 2012, 01:45:13 PM »

Quote from: Craaig on June 01, 2012, 01:41:10 PM

Or a combination of the 2? I could roll with that, very much so in fact.

Sure, actually go on with that. We need more variety in tournament format.

cephalopod · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:03:34 PM »

Okay, I have chosen to go with the following format:
DSL differing weight multibots, with Popups/Flails banned.

I have but 2 more questions.
1) What weight class combination would people like? (HW/LW, MW/LW, or HW/MW)
2) What arena? (Personally, I'm leaning towards something like the AON2 arena)

Mr. AS · « **Reply #39 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:06:01 PM »

~~aw and uhw~~

mw and lw would be good