Author Topic: Micro Mayhem - Brackets and Match Videos (Read 22361 times)

Badnik96 · « **Reply #120 on:** September 12, 2009, 04:15:27 PM »

Quote from: roboman2444;65295

my best mw hs in dsl was half made by my friend

i have a killer LW sidehammer made by my little brother.

roboman2444 · « **Reply #121 on:** September 12, 2009, 05:45:22 PM »

i had a match with it today
it would have been ok if it was invertible

System32 · « **Reply #122 on:** September 12, 2009, 06:10:10 PM »

VIDEOS PEOPLE?

roboman2444 · « **Reply #123 on:** September 12, 2009, 06:15:36 PM »

nah, too much lag

takatsukiyayoi · « **Reply #124 on:** September 13, 2009, 12:42:50 PM »

Last First Round match is up, too bad it's a fail.

GameKing3 · « **Reply #125 on:** September 13, 2009, 01:25:32 PM »

Quote from: takatsukiyayoi;65990

Last First Round match is up, too bad it's a fail.

Yea its a fail but at least its done so now we can move on to the next round. :-D

Reier · « **Reply #126 on:** September 13, 2009, 01:28:04 PM »

Looks like TA isn't wired for invertibility.

takatsukiyayoi · « **Reply #127 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:23:21 PM »

Hi all,

(if you want my TLDR point, just read the bold stuff)

While re-AI'ing Reier's Toxin Ant, I could never figure out how to reduce the spinning the bot does while attempting to ram other bots. I don't think Reier intended for TA to be a thwacker, but no matter what I do - reduced the turn speed, the radius, invertible = true, nothing seems to stop the useless flailing.

I realise that starting Micro Mayhem was a major mistake in my "life" as a GameTechMods forum member; with no prior practice besides AI'ing my own TP/R-series DSL2.1 face spinners, I failed to realise how difficult it truly was to create bindings that make the Micro Mayhem bots drive with reasonable competence.

I don't like seeing bots lose because I ****ed up a little detail I might've missed. The more I try to get Toxin Ant to just ram stuff without spinning like a thwacker afterwards, the more my confidence leaves my mind, and I think to myself, "What the **** is the point?"

It's been two months since I tried to correct my incompetence - I think I just got more stupider, if that's even a freaking word.

I guess I ought to stop trying to be cool, since it is useless. Maybe it's time I pack up my anime schoolgirl backpack and just leave GTM. I guess I'm just not cool enough to belong here.

If someone really cared, perhaps I can carry on with Micro Mayhem, even though TA's AI seems to drives like a dumb bitch. Most of you won't care though, even though I've got all four of the Second Round matches filmed already. Most of them are pretty boring and predictable though; I guess maybe BW rumbles weren't exactly the best idea for a tournament in the first place.

Should I finally pack up my anime schoolgirl backpack and leave?

Or is it really okay to carry on even with such critical issues?

And if I do carry on, will any of you help me to fix the issues?

Cheers,
Yayoi.

Urjak · « **Reply #128 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:29:08 PM »

YOU MUST BE JOKING!

Just because you made a mistake AIing doesn't mean you should leave. You did this tournament because you wanted to, not because we expected you to do so. So I can see no reason anyone would be angry, let alone want you to leave, for making a minor mistake in something you chose to due for the community.

All in all, do not leave! I want you to stay, and I bet the vast majority of the forums does as well. I would be happy to help fix the issue you are having, and I bet Mad, Click or Starcore wouldn't mind much either.

Doomkiller · « **Reply #129 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:49:57 PM »

No, don't leave GTM ok?

Send me over the bindings for the bots, And ill happly look and help at any mistakes that you have made ok :)

Pwnator · « **Reply #130 on:** September 19, 2009, 12:01:21 AM »

Hey, hey, hey. Hold on, there! People make mistakes all the time! You started one of the most unique tournaments this year, and we definitely don't want it to go unfinished. Which is why we're in a community - we help each other when one is having trouble. Just post the bot and its bindings and we'll try to see what's wrong with it.

If you think most people don't care, you're definitely wrong. People submitting entries is already a sign of showing support. People commenting on your bots (which are awesome, BTW) also mean they care.

"And why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves up". Yep, I just quoted Batman's father. But this is very true. If you can't solve the problem yourself, just tell it to us and most of us will be more than happy to help you. :D

JoeBlo · « **Reply #131 on:** September 19, 2009, 12:34:43 AM »

Quote from: Urjak;67141

YOU MUST BE JOKING!

I sure as

hope he is :shock:

Yayoi it really doesnt matter, the only way you learn these things is but mistakes, AI is seriously a trial and error thing, I messed up at least 3 bots in CC1 but people dont hold grudges over it, its just excepted that it was my first crack at a tournament

dont beat yourself up, everyone just has to keep it in mind that your a first time tournament host and these things happen, the video presentation is fantastic and your handling everything else well,

:-D Chin Up Yayoi

trumpetguy · « **Reply #132 on:** September 19, 2009, 01:18:51 AM »

Look at me and the RPG Tourney, currently I am building the bots trying to AI them (screwing up around 20 times), getting people to join. And I'm doing this for a single tourney with four people. You have like 30 people in your tourney. Heres what I am basically saying if you f**k up then you don't give a d**n. Could have been worded better but typing on this ipod is hard.

cephalopod · « **Reply #133 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:14:37 AM »

Yeah, don't worry about mistakes, everyone makes them, and a lot of people here can't even AI!
You're doing better than those guys, Yayoi, and this is an awesome, unique tournament - I wanna see how it ends! :D

Naryar · « **Reply #134 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:48:49 AM »

Taka don't be some stupid emo kid.

You may have done single little damn mistake or two - so what ? Look, nobody's complaining about your tournament (excepted for the pace of the video release, but this is stupid), there's no need to angst and say "i am not worthy".

And you'll feel better in a few years, believe me...

System32 · « **Reply #135 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:07:03 AM »

What Toxin ant is doing sounds like a wheel placement mistake.

I've had it before, a fast drive on a small bot means that you have to align everything perfect or it will drift so severly it will spin in circles.

Tell Reier to fix the bot, or resend the same one... it could be a file error as well.

MrRoboto75 · « **Reply #136 on:** September 19, 2009, 08:27:44 AM »

I'd rather not see you go. I find, your personality, bots, and love for anime both cool and unique. Maching you in hamachi was a blast.

Don't get angry at your self for messing up, even if it is something like a tournament. Everyone seems quite tolerant, even willing to of with, your mistakes. I mess up a lot. Heck, I f*** up at least once a day. Yes, I do get frustrated. But if every one is happy with your mistake, what is the to be mad about?

This was my first tournament. I don't want to see it die.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #137 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:36:29 PM »

Important stuff is bolded.

Quote from: R0B0SH4RK;63404

I think that it's really great that you care enough about hosting a tourney to post a formal public apology, but in all honesty, you're taking this much too seriously. AI mistakes happen all of the time. In fact, it was an AI mistake that prompted most of the community to learn how to AI. (I'm a bit hazy on some of the details, correct me if I'm wrong)

Story Time:

It was back during ianh05's Tag Team Tournament. In the first round, Inf and K343 were up against Barbie and eFFe. Inf had a SnS and Kill had a popup, and Barbie and eFFe both had popups. It was expected to be a close match, with Inf and Kill winning, because of Inf's SnS. The highly anticipated match turned out to be a dud though, due mainly to Kill's popup fishtailing frequently because of AI deficiencies. With the next few matches being affected in a similar way, there was a huge fallout about ian's AIing shortcomings. There were flame wars aplenty. Eventually, one main idea came out of the carnage: "If you want to participate in an AI tourney, you must either accept the standard of the host's AIing capabilities, or AI your own bot." Because no one wanted to end up screwed because of AI, tons of people learned how to AI to better their chances. Before this, only Starcore and some select builders (Mad, CB, etc.) knew how to AI. After this, I believe that SC wrote a tutorial on the old forums and had it stickied, so the masses learned how to AI. Ian re-did the whole tourney, and Sage and Sorrow won, with ian and myself finishing as the runners-up.

The End.

S32 seems to be okay with the loss, so I think you should proceed with the tourney. It's your first one, so it's a learning experience for you and we expect things like this to happen anyways. AI will never be a substitue for human driving.

The bottom line: don't worry about it; it's only a game. MM is an awesome tourney so far, and I can't wait for more action.

Toxin Ant looked fine in its first battle to me. The AI in any tourney is far from perfect. Look at BBEANS. It's the premier tournament, and there have been bots losing because of AI deficiencies before (HazCon vs Enfilad3, first match).

Also, what S32 said seems correct.

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #138 on:** September 19, 2009, 04:49:08 PM »