...I mean if clickbeetle asked for that everyone would respect his request wouldn't they?...
...by saying your bots are too good for us...I never said that, it's You posting an opinion......if you are REALLY that bothered about it, just put that line in your pm or however you send your bots...I don't want this, no need, just a info in the OP is enough.
This small thing, that was supposed to be not a big deal, went too far (thanks to some people). I'm putting an end to this...Quote from: ianh05 on March 18, 2013, 11:01:21 AM...I mean if clickbeetle asked for that everyone would respect his request wouldn't they?...The biggest truth, that I read after my comeback. This hypocrites would instantly agree, if he asks.First of all, I don't want this rule for me, I want it to protect all the good builders, so if someone is against it, maybe he want to do that kind of stealing stuff..."The bots involved in this tournament will be included in an AI pack."Look how simple and fast to achieve is. It will not force the people to not enter, they will just know and that's it.Quote from: ty4er on March 18, 2013, 10:42:36 AM...by saying your bots are too good for us...I never said that, it's You posting an opinion......if you are REALLY that bothered about it, just put that line in your pm or however you send your bots...I don't want this, no need, just a info in the OP is enough.Now the truth. What I fear is not the host stealing my bots, or people cloning them by pics. The thing I'm worried is the direct stealing of the bot file from the AI pack after the tournament from a good builder by a lame builder (mostly in stock where not all people can stack that good). Imagine this theoretical situation : You spend hours and hours to do some uber stacking (MidF for example, 2 blacks + CB, 2 stacked snappers, all this in a perfectly small chassis) then You submit it for a tournament. The tournament is over, the AI pack is released without your knowledge, and then someone instead of cloning this bot by pic, used directly your bot file or with insignificant modifications and enter the next tournament and win it. You worked on it for hours, he have it for 5 sec. Some people don't care if someone will find out, as long as they win. If You don't find this disturbing, You are either a pathetic builder or stupid? This simple line I posted on the upper lines, will eliminate this with an ease. I'm still fighting for this, as long as I'm entering tournaments, when I stop enter tournaments and release all my bots they can do whatever they want. I don't build for hours just someone to steal mine or someone else work for a seconds. Instead, I get "attention seeker", "arrogant ass" and so...I didn't know that this kind of stuff actually happened to Ianh. So we have the first case of this.Also, when I made a damn good bot, and after testing it, I found that it's extremly good, of course I wouldn't show it to the most people, but keep it for ownage. And I have some of these, most stock builders don't innovate, just copy+paste.Ianh05 is way smarter than You, if You ask me... And You look like a trolls to me, that don't have anything better to do than grudge for nothing and trolling people.
...if you are REALLY that bothered about it, just put that line in your pm or however you send your bots...I don't want this, no need, just a info in the OP is enough.
Many tournaments have a rule like "all entries become the sole property of <whomever>" in them but that wouldn't work well for RA2 tournaments because of the ease of copying someone else's work. However, I like to think that the host can do whatever they would like with the bots that participated in their tournament (it had to take place) as long as they are not claiming them as their own. The fact that your bot was seen on video from multiple angles already gives people enough information to make copies of it. Anything that people find interesting regardless of whether it is big or small is likely to be copied and that will not change (we are not going to go down the same road as the U.S. patent system). If people take inspiration for something, we should not be limiting them.We don't discuss a cloning from a pic here, we are discussing the direct use of the bot file from a GTM member that downloaded the AI pack after the release.Also the argument that if Click said it, this wouldn't stir anything up is invalid. I and others have disagreed with both ACAMS, Clickbeetle, and JoeBlo before with very little hesitation. The 1.31 and 1.4 patches are prime examples of me taking the opposite side of all three of them.Yes, but You are not from that hypocrites I mentioned above This is all just my opinion though so feel free to continue debating this if you so choose.
Wait, so you don't want this, and it's seemingly evident not many other people are keen on it?
No, I don't think I'll do that. I mean jeez, it's just a game. We aren't ruining anyone's career with this.
You say you don't want to have to PM the host, but how else are you gonna get the bot to them? I'm sending the bots by PM, I don't want to send a permissions, a line of text in the OP is enough.Dude between this and BoTM you are making yourself look like a gigantic (expletive). I would stop now and save whatever respect people have left for you.Hahaha, I don't seek respect at all dude, I'm simply just posting my point of view and some people take all this too far (look at the shortness of my first posts on the problems). Also, there is no point, because the forum is full with gigantic (expletive)s that gang me up as Ianh said and they will never be OK with whatever I do. Don't You find a coincidence that all member that grudge me are mostly a new members that joined after I left and don't know me? I'm just Venko, I post bots and opinions, some like them some not and that's it.
...limiting the flow of bots between builders...
I don't want to have the pressure of something like this. Maybe the pack never gets released (RIWAI) or maybe the host just thinks the bots should be released to the comunity (RIP AI, at least I think).
Also, in stock it's harder to follow who steals, since stock don't have that big community as the DSL.