Author Topic: Dsl soccer tournament IDEA (Read 6113 times)

Stagfish · « **on:** December 18, 2009, 12:09:06 PM »

i think we should have a football (soccer for americans) tourney
it would be DSL
middleweight class
no damaging parts
no cheatbot2 or custom parts

THIS IS AN IDEA because i dont know how to AI

Thyrus · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:10:34 PM »

to my knollege it wouldn`t work cause the AI would attack each other an won`t go after the ball.

Reier · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:10:56 PM »

How would we make them push the ball into the goal instead of just attacking each other?

Stagfish · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:11:16 PM »

problem

Stagfish · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:11:54 PM »

put the 2 bots on the same team and the enemy a football bot thing

Reier · « **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:12:35 PM »

Thyrus · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:13:54 PM »

ther`s the shell of that round bot (forgott its name) it was used by sonny once. that couldmaybe work as a ball.

Stagfish · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:14:51 PM »

pyscho sprout shell?

Thyrus · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:16:19 PM »

yeah that one I was thinking about.
but even if there is that ball the bot`s wont push it in a goal. they just would push it random throug the arena.

edit:

I`m heavyweight now :)

Stagfish · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:17:37 PM »

another problem
cant you ai the bot to push the enemy into hazards?
goal is a hazard

Thyrus · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:19:03 PM »

I don`t know. but it may could work with the King of the Hill style. It worked for the drag arena.

Stagfish · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:38:44 PM »

good point

Stagfish · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:46:15 PM »

i might use the DSL soccer arena or that one in the downloads section

Thyrus · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:50:05 PM »

I don`t think that will work.
you said both bots will be in the same team. but team members start next to each other in this arena not head to head. so both will run towards the same goal.

Stagfish · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:53:37 PM »

they could be manual control mebbe by using multiplayer
but then you would have to use stock...

Thyrus · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:58:43 PM »

I absolutly won`t destroy that idea but multiplayer is hard. 1. it laggs and 2. the time There are for example 7 houres differents between Australia and germany. I think even more between USA and germany.

Stagfish · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2009, 02:16:01 PM »

hmm need an idea

Thyrus · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2009, 02:18:21 PM »

may you wait a bit til some more postet something in here. I don`t know if it would work. May Mad knows.

Stagfish · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2009, 02:20:54 PM »

or mayby click or sage knows...

Trovaner · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2009, 04:10:24 PM »

Instead of making things overly complicated, it would be possible to make the Arena control the movements of each bot or use custom AI tactics that would make the bots play soccer rather than attack each other.

For the custom soccer arena: Depending on how many community members want to participate, I would be willing to write up some coding for the Arena to control the movement of AI bots. Doing things this way would result in less lag but it would be less accurate than separate AI.py files.

For the custom AI files: I have actually written up rules for a programming tournament that would require teams to make their own soccer playing AI. It could take place before a basic soccer tournament (that way, there would be several choices of AI.py files that would specialize in different things) or I could alter the programming tournament a little to include more community involvement (it already allows some non-programmer involvement). Another idea would be to make one AI tactic that could be used for all soccer bots made by the community.

If there is enough support for this, I would be willing to code/host anything necessary to get this thing off the ground.