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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: Stagfish on December 18, 2009, 12:09:06 PM
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i think we should have a football (soccer for americans) tourney
it would be DSL
middleweight class
no damaging parts
no cheatbot2 or custom parts
THIS IS AN IDEA because i dont know how to AI
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to my knollege it wouldn`t work cause the AI would attack each other an won`t go after the ball.
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How would we make them push the ball into the goal instead of just attacking each other?
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problem
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put the 2 bots on the same team and the enemy a football bot thing
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How
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ther`s the shell of that round bot (forgott its name) it was used by sonny once. that couldmaybe work as a ball.
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pyscho sprout shell?
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yeah that one I was thinking about.
but even if there is that ball the bot`s wont push it in a goal. they just would push it random throug the arena.
edit:
I`m heavyweight now :)
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another problem
cant you ai the bot to push the enemy into hazards?
goal is a hazard
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I don`t know. but it may could work with the King of the Hill style. It worked for the drag arena.
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good point
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i might use the DSL soccer arena or that one in the downloads section
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I don`t think that will work.
you said both bots will be in the same team. but team members start next to each other in this arena not head to head. so both will run towards the same goal.
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they could be manual control mebbe by using multiplayer
but then you would have to use stock...
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I absolutly won`t destroy that idea but multiplayer is hard. 1. it laggs and 2. the time There are for example 7 houres differents between Australia and germany. I think even more between USA and germany.
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hmm need an idea
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may you wait a bit til some more postet something in here. I don`t know if it would work. May Mad knows.
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or mayby click or sage knows...
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Instead of making things overly complicated, it would be possible to make the Arena control the movements of each bot or use custom AI tactics that would make the bots play soccer rather than attack each other.
For the custom soccer arena: Depending on how many community members want to participate, I would be willing to write up some coding for the Arena to control the movement of AI bots. Doing things this way would result in less lag but it would be less accurate than separate AI.py files.
For the custom AI files: I have actually written up rules for a programming tournament that would require teams to make their own soccer playing AI. It could take place before a basic soccer tournament (that way, there would be several choices of AI.py files that would specialize in different things) or I could alter the programming tournament a little to include more community involvement (it already allows some non-programmer involvement). Another idea would be to make one AI tactic that could be used for all soccer bots made by the community.
If there is enough support for this, I would be willing to code/host anything necessary to get this thing off the ground.
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It would be interesting if ball itself could have some sort of an AI "beacon" and bots would chase it and maybe one bot from each team could play goalkeeper.? Idk, sounds complex, but I guess it's feasible.
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sounds cool trov
I have talked about such an idea with Mad and tried to make a solution myself
Stagfish: please in future work out everything before starting a tournament idea thread, tournament idea threads should not simply be vague and "are you interested" it needs to be written as if the tournament will be starting straight away, full rules, explanations, etc :mrgreen:
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Sounds cool Trov. I'd like to look over your ideas here, if you don't mind.
I don't think they realize how much work these projects really are...
Oh, BTW, Don't forget our 'Practice Arena Switcher' coding too... hehe
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YOU TOOK MY IDEA!!! When my CombatAnts Finishes, I will make poll and there would be RA2 Soccer World Championship...
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ok should i delete this topic then?
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Well, If you want so...
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might aswell
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lol i cant delete XD
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the topic will stay for now,
we have others (notably Trov and Mad) putting work in here so there is no need to throw around threads and make it harder for these guys
no other tournaments can be started in 2009 anyway (meaning brackets and videos, discussions are ok) if Jonzu gets his out of the way, you can always work on producing one together, but you cant force somebody to close there discussion because you simply had the idea that you haven't put into play yet.
:smile:
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Sounds like fun i will enter when possible when it happens.
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big bump but i dont think it will start because we are going to need special AI
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Well people are making AI so i'm sure they will come up with something evenchlely. By the way do the AI treet the ball as a hazerd beacues if they do try to make them only want to hit the ball towards serton areas that sort of thing.
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the ball is going to be another bot because its easyier
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I cant see that working since it is impossible to score a goal with a robot.
just throwing an idea out you could have an SnS tournament using standard FBS_1 and the python Mad made for dropping balls at a constant rate or turning off the hazards (makes all balls start on the ground)
have a 1 min match and which ever robot gets the most goals wins
it would work as I have done it before, the only thing would be the "boring factor"
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and it would be all about luck
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i said it before and i will say it again this thread needs to be deleted
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Well people are making AI so i'm sure they will come up with something evenchlely. By the way do the AI treet the ball as a hazerd beacues if they do try to make them only want to hit the ball towards serton areas that sort of thing.
This task would be involved...
LLB: Since you're 16, then try to clean up your spelling a bit, sometime sooner than....'evenchlely' :confused: . Else, your post are good, make sense, and are contributory...
Thanks.
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I cant see that working since it is impossible to score a goal with a robot.
just throwing an idea out you could have an SnS tournament using standard FBS_1 and the python Mad made for dropping balls at a constant rate or turning off the hazards (makes all balls start on the ground)
have a 1 min match and which ever robot gets the most goals wins
it would work as I have done it before, the only thing would be the "boring factor"
We should have a SnS tournament in the small arena. That would be fun to watch.
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thanks to Apanx we can have an SnS tournament in any arena
my thought was a bouncy small arena :mrgreen:
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That sounds like even more fun.
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Stag if you no longer want to do this I will close this thread
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Joe, check with Trov first... I think he was interested in this, but not sure.
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I cant see that working since it is impossible to score a goal with a robot.
why must you be so negative ? :(
Wellpeople are making AI so i'm sure they will come up with somethingevenchlely. By the way do the AI treet the ball as a hazerd beacues ifthey do try to make them only want to hit the ball towards serton areasthat sort of thing.
This task would be involved...
LLB: Since you're 16, then try to clean up your spelling a bit, sometime sooner than....'evenchlely' :confused: . Else, your posts are good, make sense, and are contributory...
Thanks.
:P
... Wait, you did it on purpose ?
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why must you be so negative ?
dont talk to me about negativity Nar
Joe, check with Trov first... I think he was interested in this, but not sure.
NP, just thinking along to lines of ACAMS rules ;)
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why must you be so negative ?
dont talk to me about negativity Nar
HAHAHA... aren't you supposed to be the happy, always positive, nice and laid back guy here ?
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I am most of the time, I dont think my post post however warranted such a responce from you. It wasn't negative its merely basing it on the fact a robot is incapable of passing through the goal zone.
with a new arena structured around such an idea, a robot "ball" with infinite Armour and sure its a workable idea, all I said is I cant see it working with the current arena
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why must you be so negative ?
dont talk to me about negativity Nar
HAHAHA... aren't you supposed to be the happy, always positive, nice and laid back guy here ?
Cut him some slack ok he's working hard right now figering out ideas and and running CC3 ect. A lot of stuff will bring any one on edge. Even a laid back sort of guy.
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why must you be so negative ?
dont talk to me about negativity Nar
HAHAHA... aren't you supposed to be the happy, always positive, nice and laid back guy here ?
Cut him some slack ok he's working hard right now figering out ideas and and running CC3 ect. A lot of stuff will bring any one on edge. Even a laid back sort of guy.
I think you don't get how we relate.
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they are in a kind of relationship.
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I think you don't get how we relate.
Love right Naryar? XD
LLB: you have to remember text doesn't convey feelings... how you read it does ;) its nice you stick up for others but sometimes it can be hard to do so in this form (writing :P)
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I think you don't get how we relate.
Love right Naryar? XD
No, it's... ah heck. My only true love is R0B0, but now you... i don't know, it's difficult to say :P
But i think i better stop before the official JoeXNary fanboy wets himself.
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Oh ok um sorry I not that good on picking up on that.
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I think he meant Thyrus, not you
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I think he meant Thyrus, not you
Yes, i mean Thyrus.