Battlebots 5

[freeziez]

Battlebots is back!

RULES
- DSL LW/MW/HW/SHW
- Battlebox 3.0
- 3 minute matches
- Realistic Rule applies very strongly, IT MUST BE FOLLOWED.
- No NARmour
- 1 Havok restart, 2nd time eliminated
- No BFE, AAM, NCR glitch, or any other glitch that makes the bot unrealistic
- Trov Glitch is allowed, don't abuse it
- Replicas are NOT allowed
- Cannot use DSA (why would you?)
- Robots must look as close to IRL designs as possible. (No unrealistic weapon sizes, disproportionate designs.)
- No face spinners
- Moving weapons may not touch the ground initially. It is OK if a robot is flipped over but not if weapons hit the ground when the match starts.
- Bots with treads get a 60 kg weight cushion.
- MUST have a sponsor decal
(https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Arena2/Misc/AU_Decal_Pack_1.0.zip)
(https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Arena2/Misc/JX_Sponsor_Decals.zip)
- Judge bursts are allowed, but one Judge Burst per bot for LW and MW, two for the HW and SHW divisions.
- No multibots
- No armor attached directly to the chassis of the robot
- LW walkers/shufflers can weigh up to 425 kgs, but at least 175 kgs must be used on the walker or shuffler system itself.
- MW walkers/shufflers can weigh up to 800 kgs, but at least 400 kgs must be used on the walker or shuffler system itself.
- HW walkers/shufflers can weigh up to 1200 kgs, but at least 400 kgs must be used on the walker or shuffler system itself.
- SHW walkers/shufflers can weigh up to 1600 kgs, but at least 400 kgs must be used on the walker or shuffler system itself.
- Cheatbot2 components that are allowed:

WEAPONS
- Matilda teeth
- S3 disc
- Diablo Triple Bar
- Complete Control weapon
- Wham bat
- Beta hammer

EXTRAS
- All extras from Bulldog Breed, Apollyon, Thermidor 2, MOE, That Darn Dustpan, Hworf, Complete Control, Techno Destructo, Minion, T-Minus, Tornado, Tazbot, Wheely Big Cheese, and Lightning
- All The Judge extras except gavel head
- All Beta extras except battery
- All Bob extras except flamethrower and top armor
- All Vertigo extras except motor
- Dominator 2 right top, left top, stopper, bar, wheel guards, and antennae
- Heavy Metal Noise tooth
- Ruiner cowboy hat and wheel
- billybar, billyg, billyg2
- growlerwheelframe

JUDGING
- Fights will be judged on significant attacks and control of match.
- Fights will be judged on a spectrum of 45 points.
- Fights will be judged by me, G.K., and SKBT.

ENTRIES

LW
1. Hard Bot
2. NFX
3. smashysmashy
4. Badnik96
5. MassimoV
6. Craaig
7. MikeNCR
8. SKBT
9. Scrap Daddy
10. nicsan2009
11. Pressure
12. Squirrel_Monkey
13. dragonsteincole
14. ty4er
15. Conraaa
16. Powerrave

MW
1. NFX
2. smashysmashy
3. Badnik96
4. Enigma
5. MassimoV
6. Craaig
7. Virus Bomb
8. MikeNCR
9. SKBT
10. Scrap Daddy
11. nicsan2009
12. Preytor_4
13. Pressure
14. Madman3
15. Squirrel_Monkey
16. dragonsteincole

HW
1. NFX
2. Badnik96
3. Enigma
4. MassimoV
5. Craaig
6. Virus Bomb
7. MikeNCR
8. SKBT
9. Jack Daniels
10. Scrap Daddy
11. nicsan2009
12. Preytor_4
13. Madman3
14. Martymidget
15. Russian Roulette
16. Squirrel_Monkey

SHW
1. NFX
2. smashysmashy
3. Badnik96
4. MassimoV
5. Virus Bomb
6. MikeNCR
7. SKBT
8. Scrap Daddy
9. nicsan2009
10. Preytor_4
11. HurricaneAndrew
12. Clickbeetle
13. Enigma
14. Squirrel_Monkey
15. dragonsteincole
16. Conraaa

Green- Accepted and AI'd
Blue- Accepted
Orange- Reserved
Black- Recieved
Red- Problem

[smashysmashy]

I see it unfair that the seeded people get automatic entry.

Take Urjak. He won many fights by being not really very realistic, and now he gets a reserved place.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I think Trov Glitch should be allowed in a realistic manner.
Also, why not allow cheatbot 2 parts below a certain efficiency. I love the Hworf Spike.
EDIT: And face spinners. Just because of the Garvin incident a perfectly IRL bot type has been outlawed.

[GoldenFox93]

Count me in.

[Philippa]

Will enter.

[Virus Bomb]

the moe motor isn't legal this time? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

I'll still enter this though.

[Jonzu95]

5 Battlebot seasons in few months? Oh come on... To be honest, you should take a break, freez..

[SKBT]

Remove the seeding. It offers an unfair advantage to the already "better builders"

[nicsan2009]

Can we enter more than one bot again?

[smashysmashy]

Can we enter more than one bot again?

There's nothing to stop you.

[MassimoV]

I'm entering.

[cephalopod]

Bleh, I was a seed, and suddenly I've been demoted T.T
But yeah, even if I was, this guaranteed bye thing is a little... weird :/
Like smashy said, some made un-IRL bots, and also it restricts how successful a potentially great 'unseeded' robot is, if it's knocked out by something equally awesome which then goes up against something that doesn't deserve to be where it is and would usually be knocked out in round 1.
But yeah, it's your tournament, that's just my take, and I'll probably still enter.

[Badnik96]

well I will be entering, but I probably won't get a seed XD

[smashysmashy]

Bleh, I was a seed, and suddenly I've been demoted T.T
But yeah, even if I was, this guaranteed bye thing is a little... weird :/
Like smashy said, some made un-IRL bots, and also it restricts how successful a potentially great 'unseeded' robot is, if it's knocked out by something equally awesome which then goes up against something that doesn't deserve to be where it is and would usually be knocked out in round 1.
But yeah, it's your tournament, that's just my take, and I'll probably still enter.

*cough*DSC*cough*

[NFX]

I'd agree with the downsides of the seeding system. For one thing, 12 out of 20 seems too many, in my view. Plus, I would much rather see dragonsteincole's machines in the tournament than Urjak's barely realistic stuff, but Urjak's "seeding" as a result of winning more matches, means he would gain automatic entry. I don't think that's fair, personally.

[freeziez]

A couple of things:

- Seeding does not give automatic entry; if they don't enter, they're not in. The only people with a reserved spot are the winners from last season. And stop complaining about Urjak, just because one of his bots was unrealistic doesn't mean you get to moan about it. I'll modify the rules a little to help, but seriously guys.

- I moved the four unseeded members to seeds since they were the only ones that had won a match.

the moe motor isn't legal this time? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

I'll still enter this though.

See #2 below.

I think Trov Glitch should be allowed in a realistic manner.
Also, why not allow cheatbot 2 parts below a certain efficiency. I love the Hworf Spike.
EDIT: And face spinners. Just because of the Garvin incident a perfectly IRL bot type has been outlawed.

1. No.
2. I'll go through the cheatbot components and see which ones I would consider IRL.
3. I know it's a stretch, but I'm not going to change that rule after 3 seasons of it not being there and working.

[smashysmashy]

I'd agree with the downsides of the seeding system. For one thing, 12 out of 20 seems too many, in my view. Plus, I would much rather see dragonsteincole's machines in the tournament than Urjak's barely realistic stuff, but Urjak's "seeding" as a result of winning more matches, means he would gain automatic entry. I don't think that's fair, personally.

Why don't you start another common sense brigade?

[NFX]

But if they do enter, then they bump another entry out of the bracket. I - at the risk of being decapitated - REALLY don't want Urjak stretching the IRL rules as far as he can, and pushing a much better "IRL" entry out of the brackets. I think a better way of making this work would be that a seed can claim their spot in only one of the four brackets. That would give the unseeded machines a chance to battle as well.

[Ben Purse]

Will enter

[freeziez]

But if they do enter, then they bump another entry out of the bracket. I - at the risk of being decapitated - REALLY don't want Urjak stretching the IRL rules as far as he can, and pushing a much better "IRL" entry out of the brackets. I think a better way of making this work would be that a seed can claim their spot in only one of the four brackets. That would give the unseeded machines a chance to battle as well.

And stop complaining about Urjak, just because one of his bots was unrealistic doesn't mean you get to bitch and moan about it. I'll modify the rules a little to help, but seriously guys.