Can we enter more than one bot again?There's nothing to stop you.
Bleh, I was a seed, and suddenly I've been demoted T.T*cough*DSC*cough*
But yeah, even if I was, this guaranteed bye thing is a little... weird :/
Like smashy said, some made un-IRL bots, and also it restricts how successful a potentially great 'unseeded' robot is, if it's knocked out by something equally awesome which then goes up against something that doesn't deserve to be where it is and would usually be knocked out in round 1.
But yeah, it's your tournament, that's just my take, and I'll probably still enter.
the moe motor isn't legal this time? (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I'll still enter this though.
I think Trov Glitch should be allowed in a realistic manner.
Also, why not allow cheatbot 2 parts below a certain efficiency. I love the Hworf Spike.
EDIT: And face spinners. Just because of the Garvin incident a perfectly IRL bot type has been outlawed.
I'd agree with the downsides of the seeding system. For one thing, 12 out of 20 seems too many, in my view. Plus, I would much rather see dragonsteincole's machines in the tournament than Urjak's barely realistic stuff, but Urjak's "seeding" as a result of winning more matches, means he would gain automatic entry. I don't think that's fair, personally.Why don't you start another common sense brigade?
But if they do enter, then they bump another entry out of the bracket. I - at the risk of being decapitated - REALLY don't want Urjak stretching the IRL rules as far as he can, and pushing a much better "IRL" entry out of the brackets. I think a better way of making this work would be that a seed can claim their spot in only one of the four brackets. That would give the unseeded machines a chance to battle as well.
And stop complaining about Urjak, just because one of his bots was unrealistic doesn't mean you get to bitch and moan about it. I'll modify the rules a little to help, but seriously guys.
FTFY You find very few effective FBS IRL.But if they do enter, then they bump another entry out of the bracket. I - at the risk of being decapitated - REALLY don't want Urjak stretching the IRL rules as far as he can, and pushing a much better "IRL" entry out of the brackets. I think a better way of making this work would be that a seed can claim their spot in only one of the four brackets. That would give the unseeded machines a chance to battle as well.And stop complaining about Urjak, just because two of his bots was unrealistic doesn't mean you get to bitch and moan about it. I'll modify the rules a little to help, but seriously guys.
FTFY You find very few effective FBS IRL.But if they do enter, then they bump another entry out of the bracket. I - at the risk of being decapitated - REALLY don't want Urjak stretching the IRL rules as far as he can, and pushing a much better "IRL" entry out of the brackets. I think a better way of making this work would be that a seed can claim their spot in only one of the four brackets. That would give the unseeded machines a chance to battle as well.And stop complaining about Urjak, just because two of his bots was unrealistic doesn't mean you get to bitch and moan about it. I'll modify the rules a little to help, but seriously guys.
Better is a purely subjective viewpoint. In terms of IRL building, I would say he was quite crap. =P
what fbs has weapons like those on them and a sheet sticking out like that irl
I think the voting system idea should be implemented to keep super unrealistic boys out
Why no Trov Glitch? I see no reason against it. I use it on my cool drum designs D:
Judge extras are in ? Goodie.http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AndTheFandomRejoiced (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AndTheFandomRejoiced)
Take Urjak. He won many fights by being not really very realistic, and now he gets a reserved place.
I'd agree with the downsides of the seeding system. For one thing, 12 out of 20 seems too many, in my view. Plus, I would much rather see dragonsteincole's machines in the tournament than Urjak's barely realistic stuff, but Urjak's "seeding" as a result of winning more matches, means he would gain automatic entry. I don't think that's fair, personally.
But if they do enter, then they bump another entry out of the bracket. I - at the risk of being decapitated - REALLY don't want Urjak stretching the IRL rules as far as he can, and pushing a much better "IRL" entry out of the brackets. I think a better way of making this work would be that a seed can claim their spot in only one of the four brackets. That would give the unseeded machines a chance to battle as well.
Hopfully gonna enter Ironside MK.IV again, aswell as a MW called Ironside MK.V.I do not look forward to fighting you, if I do.
Granted, there were plenty other unIRL bots, such as Top Comment, but unfortunately you were the first guy that popped up in my head. It's not a personal attack on you, I was just using your entries as an example of some of the stuff that can be entered. Shark, for instance, might be technically an IRL design, but I've never seen any shell spinner with weapons such as that one. The comments were explaining how the seeding system seems a little flawed, rather than trying to take shots against your entries, but they weren't exactly - and I know I'll get some backlash for saying this - within the spirit of the tournament, in my view. Cue Naryar going on one of his tirades about efficiency and ballasts and empty space and suchlike. From what I've seen, in this sort of tournament, if you can manage to place aesthetics first, give efficiency a lower priority, and still build a decent machine, then everybody has fun.
I think we do a disservice to tournaments like this by not actually defining what IRL realistic means. Personally, the voting system seems like the most rational solution at this point, because getting everybody to agree on what "IRL realistic" means would likely be impossible.
Current planned line up:Here's mine-
LW: Infestation 2 (to be built)
MW: Either Roswell, Tracer Bullet 2, Marble Zone Meltdown, Echo Breaker, Scrapyard Falcon or Moonsong (to be showcased)
HW: TBA
SHW: Of No Return 2 (less armor, 6-mag instead of 4)
Would people hate me if I reused SkidMark?I wouldn't.
Would people hate me if I reused SkidMark?Why should we hard it, because it kicked our asses? :gawe:
By the way, don't say that I'm rushing myself. The reason most tournaments run slowly is because the host has things going on in their personal life, so they pace themselves, say they record 1 or 2 matches a day. With me, I record as many as possible in that day mostly because I have no personal life and can use the time to my advantage. I could run 10 tournaments in a month if I tried, but I have no problem with slowing down the production if you guys wish.
Mine -Current planned line up:Here's mine-
LW: Infestation 2 (to be built)
MW: Either Roswell, Tracer Bullet 2, Marble Zone Meltdown, Echo Breaker, Scrapyard Falcon or Moonsong (to be showcased)
HW: TBA
SHW: Of No Return 2 (less armor, 6-mag instead of 4)
LW: Scottish Handshake (Ring Spinner)
MW: Bloody Tosser
HW: Juggernaut II
SHW: TBD
Will be updated accordingly.
You can't do that with the Trov Glitch either.Why no Trov Glitch? I see no reason against it. I use it on my cool drum designs D:
You can't make part of a chassis with 0 width IRL.
You can't do that with the Trov Glitch either.Why no Trov Glitch? I see no reason against it. I use it on my cool drum designs D:
You can't make part of a chassis with 0 width IRL.
By the way, don't say that I'm rushing myself. The reason most tournaments run slowly is because the host has things going on in their personal life, so they pace themselves, say they record 1 or 2 matches a day. With me, I record as many as possible in that day mostly because I have no personal life and can use the time to my advantage. I could run 10 tournaments in a month if I tried, but I have no problem with slowing down the production if you guys wish.
If that was relating to my post, then you've misunderstood it, or I wasn't specific enough. I am not talking about the filming of the fights and the speed of the tournaments itself. I was referring to the chaotic nature of the sign ups, which were rushed through, and resulted in the first 3-4 pages of the SBV being you fixing the splashes and people fighting about who should have gotten which spot. THAT is the issue which always seems to be present in these tournaments, hopefully that can be sorted out this time.
To sum up, the sign ups are where things need slowing down and organising, not the production and posting of videos. That last part is where you should be commended. :approve:
i has an idea:
How about every week you do a match for each weight class like an episode of battlebots. :gawe:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXyeSbJSMG4AxIm38LStDgIC9tVLhhS2mqo6fvTcX2aXbWFdNN)
storm ii has a thick lifting arm that isnt part of the chassis. It goes in between the chassis which is rather thin at that point which is doable with trov glitching.
Give us a few days please...
Time for Social Misift to win HW.
Time for Social Misift to win HW.
maybe you could enter another bot
or update it
... seems like people are pretty ravenous to enter this tourney.I certainly am- I think I've discovered a bit of a knack for IRL building :approve:
I still have to make my SHW. I've got the rest of my team sorted out, though. I'm just praying signups don't open while I'm asleep.Why? Your seeded.
Would this work better to even the seeds?Something like that would do well. Not sure how quickly 96 people will fill up all 4 brackets
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18209bb5sbr(II).PNG)
Less or more? I'm open to change.
fairly indifferent on it.Same here.
Looking at the legal cheatbot parts, did you mean for it to read that the judge's gavel is legal?(it's in the extras section) It's pretty overpowered iirc (20kg, 3 pierce and concussion, 9000hp)
Sounds alright. Would that be nearer to around midnight GMT?
Can I bribe you to take mine early?Sounds alright. Would that be nearer to around midnight GMT?
yes
Something that could have been done with the Seeding system is to induvidially seed everyone in each weightclass. Since some people only entered one weight class. So the Semi-Finalists, 3rd, 2nd and 1st get a seed in every weight class? I think this makes more sense than grouping it all together, and it allows for more people to enter without being bumped I think.
Smart move IMO.Something that could have been done with the Seeding system is to induvidially seed everyone in each weightclass. Since some people only entered one weight class. So the Semi-Finalists, 3rd, 2nd and 1st get a seed in every weight class? I think this makes more sense than grouping it all together, and it allows for more people to enter without being bumped I think.
I'm going to remove the seeding anyway, so...
The way I do seeding in BBEANS is I put the 32 top-ranked competitors in the bracket first, so the highest-ranked bots are as far
apart as possible. So the #1 seed goes in slot #1, #2 goes in slot #32, #3 goes in slot #16, #4 goes in slot #48, etc. Then I fill in the remaining slots randomly with unseeded bots, so every round 1 match is between a seeded bot and a random unseeded bot.
The way I do seeding in BBEANS is I put the 32 top-ranked competitors in the bracket first, so the highest-ranked bots are as far
apart as possible. So the #1 seed goes in slot #1, #2 goes in slot #32, #3 goes in slot #16, #4 goes in slot #48, etc. Then I fill in the remaining slots randomly with unseeded bots, so every round 1 match is between a seeded bot and a random unseeded bot.
I had that seeding in mind before now, and now when I use it it'll seem like I was taking your idea. :P
Whatever. It works in college basketball, it'll work here.
By the way, you gonna enter?
LW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S PIERCING GAZE (Finished)Those MIGHTY FEMYAR names are getting repetitive now =P
MW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S DIRE POWER (to be built)
HW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S IRON FIST (needs rebuild)
SHW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S WRITTEN LAW (to be built)
LW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S PIERCING GAZE (Finished)Team Ballast. :gawe:
MW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S DIRE POWER (to be built)
HW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S IRON FIST (needs rebuild)
SHW: MIGHTY NARYAR'S WRITTEN LAW (to be built)
but I don't wanna miss signups because I can't get online tomorrow... (therefore having a reason to send early)I'm gonna be busy doing sod all. Can I qualify for getting in early? :gawe:
As soon as all you cock monglers stop caring so much about winning and more about the spirit of building an IRL bot, this tournament will be awesome. A bot that will put on a cool show or just looks like it could actually be something that was real is 10x more interesting than all of you with the mentality of "hurr check out this hs I built, so irl it only has 2 sledgehammers and its a lightweight. Not to mention that high tech floating axle and my sweet hinge wedges!" or all of you that enter quasi-nar ai dsl bots. In reality, all IRL comes down to is weapon weight, which was why Urjak raped the heavyweight division and preytors bot was so successful, not how the bot would actually function if this was an actual competition. Not to mention that some just totally ruin cool looking bots with all this emphasis on wedges. Not one of my bots I've built has even used a skirt hinge for wedges even though they could have been a heck of a lot more effective with one and even more frustrating is the cool entries getting beaten by these bots.
Just think about for a second, sure you can win sneaking in your ass ton of weapon weight, but the whole tournament is not nearly as fun.
hey freezes, what about putting a strict weapon weight/number limit for each weightclass/bot type in the rules and calling it fair.I could see that working with exceptions for spikes/etc for decoration.
I might do a bot for this:*reads this*
LW: Hammer Metal -- A SS with 2 DSL 44kg Hammers.
...2 DSL 44kg Hammers.44kg hammers?
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All but maybe 1 of my losses in this tourney (Hard Drive vs Freezerburn) have been against bots built solely for efficiency (NyXL, Toriodore, 8Rec).
I got my SHW pretty much ready.
Sorry about signups guys, I didn't realize All-County Band auditions had an hour-and-a-half line.Whoops, I just sent my bots -_-
Signups will be up later today.
Sorry about signups guys, I didn't realize All-County Band auditions had an hour-and-a-half line.Whoops, I just sent my bots -_-
Signups will be up later today.
Resend them later today?
So you want me to send them later or not? 'That'll do' got me confused =PSorry about signups guys, I didn't realize All-County Band auditions had an hour-and-a-half line.Whoops, I just sent my bots -_-
Signups will be up later today.
Resend them later today?
That'll do.
I sent my bot on the scheduled day for sign-ups.Tough. So did I.
You definitely want it moved now Freez?
Including me that's 5 people who have already sent their bots.Yes.
Posting for community approval because I'm unsure.. HW.I'm not sure I like the skirts but it's pretty damn awesome.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64981defen 2.png)
Does 249.7 count as Middleweight?
Does 249.7 count as Middleweight?
Does the game say it's Middleweight? Yes.
One thing about these IRL bots though, it shouldn't be hard to shave 0.7 kgs somewhere.
Upgraded to plastic 1...Does 249.7 count as Middleweight?
Does the game say it's Middleweight? Yes.
One thing about these IRL bots though, it shouldn't be hard to shave 0.7 kgs somewhere.
Took out an Ant, upgraded armour to Plastic 1, now it's 247.9
Took out an Ant, upgraded armour to Plastic 1, now it's 247.9How can you upgrage to plastic 1?
Ya got ninja'd :gawe:Took out an Ant, upgraded armour to Plastic 1, now it's 247.9How can you upgrage to plastic 1?
I meant 3Ah, ok.
Bad memory.
Are MOE motors allowed?
- Cheatbot2 components that are allowed:
Hopefully I sent my bots in time, now I'm Nervous. :confused:I PMbomb'd just behind NFX, I should be in =P
Next time, double the places
Next time, double the placesDon't you think 128 bots in one tournament is a bit
No.Next time, double the placesDon't you think 128 bots in one tournament is a bitridiculousmuch?
not for freeziezNext time, double the placesDon't you think 128 bots in one tournament is a bitridiculousmuch?
not for freeziezNext time, double the placesDon't you think 128 bots in one tournament is a bitridiculousmuch?
Well, seeing how you claim you have no external life to this forum, you CAN go up to 128, right ?not if he doesn't want to, he's probably capable of it though, considering how fast he puts out videos and the fact that he has a full year to finish the tourney
Well, seeing how you claim you have no external life to this forum, you CAN go up to 128, right ?
Well it was nice knowing you freeziezWell, seeing how you claim you have no external life to this forum, you CAN go up to 128, right ?
You know, there's moderating, and then there's being a complete dick.
Well, seeing how you claim you have no external life to this forum, you CAN go up to 128, right ?
You know, there's moderating, and then there's being a complete dick.
By the way, don't say that I'm rushing myself. The reason most tournaments run slowly is because the host has things going on in their personal life, so they pace themselves, say they record 1 or 2 matches a day. With me, I record as many as possible in that day mostly because I have no personal life and can use the time to my advantage. I could run 10 tournaments in a month if I tried, but I have no problem with slowing down the production if you guys wish.?
You could do 96 entries and have 24 entries per weight class, which is about enough IMO.Seconded.
Shame i didn't get into any other classes...
Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.
Bugger.
Appears not.Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.
Bugger.
You've still got your 4th Seed spot, have you not?
The seeding got removedAppears not.Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.
Bugger.
You've still got your 4th Seed spot, have you not?
Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.Which weight class do you want? I'd be happy to let you take one of my spots; it seems a bit unfair I have all four.
Bugger.
Just MW and HW is all I'll need. But are you sure you'd like to do it? I don't really want to end up giving you the boot over it.Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.Which weight class do you want? I'd be happy to let you take one of my spots; it seems a bit unfair I have all four.
Bugger.
smashy, if you drop out, it would be the next to have sent who gets the spot.Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.Which weight class do you want? I'd be happy to let you take one of my spots; it seems a bit unfair I have all four.
Bugger.
Derp, forgot about that.smashy, if you drop out, it would be the next to have sent who gets the spot.Oh. Away for the weekend, and now every last space is gone.Which weight class do you want? I'd be happy to let you take one of my spots; it seems a bit unfair I have all four.
Bugger.
When do Signups start for BB5? I've already got all my bots ready.
Probably Dec. 2
Can I send my bots now?
Yes.
Here's my robots. You said I could send them. If there's a problem, lemme know, K?
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/BB5.zip (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/BB5.zip)
Or maybe 24 per bracket. That might be alright..
24 per bracket seems like the most reasonable solution to me, if you're gonna do four weight classes. 32 per bracket, that's 128 robots, and it's going to move extremely slowly. 24 bots per weight class, with some three-way Loser's Melees somewhere down the line, I think. That's how I'd go about it. =) Or seeding, but that might be construed as unfair. We discussed the seeding system earlier, and people didn't seem to like it very much.That's good to see- or maybe only seed the top 6 for each bracket or so.
watThat's what you get for saying I'm whining :approve:
I posted the 24 bracket idea before you :p
But i would say 24 bracket would be the best idea, 32 entries may not be full (lol it probably will though) and it will take a long time.
There was a discussion about this before, and it was decided that being able to send your entries before signups were open would completely defeat the purpose of a Signups thread. Otherwise everybody would send their entries early.
Here's my robots. You said I could send them. If there's a problem, lemme know, K?
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/BB5.zip (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/BB5.zip)
Hahaha. Bravo Freeziez!
Your tournaments are so popular it is controversial. XD
and Ryu-Kishin Powered has to wait another season to enter ;)
Anyway, what's the rules on replacing bots?
Yes, I wanted to send in a new MW, but evidently this may be considered unfair.Anyway, what's the rules on replacing bots?
As in sending updates?
Well that sucks, I was planning on revenge against Ryu Kishin.Unless you've gotten amazingly better overnight, or I see not much chance in that =P
Yes, I wanted to send in a new MW, but evidently this may be considered unfair.Anyway, what's the rules on replacing bots?
As in sending updates?
Also, how far was I out of making it into the HW bracket?
I really think my Heavyweight could take it out. But I am not to sure about the upgraged Ryu.
Replacing bots goes by time of submission only, I think. Updating them, not sure. If it's an entirely different robot, then I would consider that placeholding, and thus cheating someone else out of a spot.My original bot is fine and perfectly within the IRL spirit and thus not a "placeholder". I would simply prefer to use a different bot. I'm happy to do either.
Haha Same thing happened to me, anyway yeah placeholding is cheating and I feel like we talked about this before.
BLARGH. STOP POSTING STUFF. I tried to post seven posts ago.
By the way, why is Hard Bot in the Lightweight bracket if his robot is illegal, and there are other people wanting to enter?
Replacing bots goes by time of submission only, I think. Updating them, not sure. If it's an entirely different robot, then I would consider that placeholding, and thus cheating someone else out of a spot.My original bot is fine and perfectly within the IRL spirit and thus not a "placeholder". I would simply prefer to use a different bot. I'm happy to do either.
freez, you okay with me letting S_M in?
Yup.freez, you okay with me letting S_M in?
I guess so, if that's what you want.
I'd rather have you either send an update or not bother at all, just so as to not cause any more controversy.Define "update"
I'd rather have you either send an update or not bother at all, just so as to not cause any more controversy.Define "update"
Bleh, keep it how it is then.I'd rather have you either send an update or not bother at all, just so as to not cause any more controversy.Define "update"
Modifying the original bot without drastically changing its shape or bot type.
We shold post the splashes first and any "questionable" bots (as voted by 5 or more people) should get replaced by more IRL entries.
I thought it was fine, actually. If it fought The Final Sign of Evil, that'd be epic. :gawe:We shold post the splashes first and any "questionable" bots (as voted by 5 or more people) should get replaced by more IRL entries.
Sounds like people are butthurt because my SHW is borderline.
I thought it was fine, actually. If it fought The Final Sign of Evil, that'd be epic. :gawe:We shold post the splashes first and any "questionable" bots (as voted by 5 or more people) should get replaced by more IRL entries.
Sounds like people are butthurt because my SHW is borderline.
hey freez, i'm not gonna put some fancy shamncy ai on my bots, you can just omni them. :P
Freeziez. What exactly did I enter into the SHW division?
oooooooooo an update to the hammer =DFreeziez. What exactly did I enter into the SHW division?
Eighth Day 2.
Whoops. What a difference a S makes in a pm. :P I meant to put HW, not SHW. Hence why I said I wanted to enter Gummy aswell.
tl;dr My bad, can I swap ED2 for Gummy, an actual SHW?
Whoops. What a difference a S makes in a pm. :P I meant to put HW, not SHW. Hence why I said I wanted to enter Gummy aswell.
tl;dr My bad, can I swap ED2 for Gummy, an actual SHW?
Whoops. What a difference a S makes in a pm. :P I meant to put HW, not SHW. Hence why I said I wanted to enter Gummy aswell.
tl;dr My bad, can I swap ED2 for Gummy, an actual SHW?
- Is gummy the bot you entered about 2 BattleBots ago?
- So Eighth day is a HW now?
If it's as cool as it was last time, I hope it doesn't go against my two huge drums :gunz:Whoops. What a difference a S makes in a pm. :P I meant to put HW, not SHW. Hence why I said I wanted to enter Gummy aswell.
tl;dr My bad, can I swap ED2 for Gummy, an actual SHW?
- Is gummy the bot you entered about 2 BattleBots ago?
- So Eighth day is a HW now?
Yep and Yep. It's also a flipper.
Also fine. I bulked it up to a shw by changing the armour. It'll be fun to see how well it does.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55834ED2A.PNG)Reminds me of the original Vercingetorix :approve:
Bring it.
And Smashy is Caesar ?(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55834ED2A.PNG)Reminds me of the original Vercingetorix :approve:
Bring it.
Nah, I'd say Smashy's is more like Barber-ous from RW Series 5 ^^And Smashy is Caesar ?(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55834ED2A.PNG)Reminds me of the original Vercingetorix :approve:
Bring it.
Naryar has earned 10% warning for totally unrelated post in a main forum thread. Bad boy.
Where's this going? Freez still Ai-ing? (I wouldn't be surprised, there are a few there)
freez please hurry the ai'ing up. what tha smeg happened to not having a life ? D:
oh goodie. :gawe: does this mean the splash will be arriving soon ?freez please hurry the ai'ing up. what tha smeg happened to not having a life ? D:
Look at the front page. :P
oh goodie. :gawe: does this mean the splash will be arriving soon ?freez please hurry the ai'ing up. what tha smeg happened to not having a life ? D:
Look at the front page. :P
I just realized that my LW is the first BB bot to use 44kg hammers.
Have you made sure that my LW has "invertible=true" in the bindings? =)
i say you get the splash up and running and don't post vids until click sends his bindings.
mfw:i say you get the splash up and running and don't post vids until click sends his bindings.
He just did, so it'll be up soon.