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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2017, 04:44:04 PM »
i'd say put maces ontop of the discs and theres gotta be a way you can mount the ramplates not on wedge snapper

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2017, 07:55:57 PM »


not sure how i feel about this one, may rebuild

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2017, 07:57:28 PM »
not sure how well axes are gonna work?
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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2017, 07:59:51 PM »
not sure how well axes are gonna work?
He's probably trying to keep the two robots similar. Speaking of battleaxes...



I'm most likely going to end up placing irons on instead.

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2017, 08:56:41 PM »
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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2017, 09:06:15 PM »
not sure how well axes are gonna work?
He's probably trying to keep the two robots similar. Speaking of battleaxes...

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I'm most likely going to end up placing irons on instead.
I think it would be better for the bot to have a V-shaped front, since it clearly wants to grind out the opponent with the flails, so with a V-shaped front it can actually hold the opponent and do what it wants to do.Yeah it's not really faithful anymore, but the OG Posessed Bee is really bad conceptually so IMO it needs a full remake to be able to keep up with the rest of the pack.
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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2017, 09:23:05 PM »
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not sure how i feel about this one, may rebuild
I think it looks good, probably because you deceptively rotated those tribars. The spinners need some more distance away from the wamming rack so the axes can get some action.

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2017, 10:21:54 PM »
Gemini is not with us anymore. This was a case that the bots were decent enough but nothing distinctive. Things like the bot named Alien Predator was his choice and nothing particularly wrong with it so I didn't force a change.

Is a case of if people vote to remove/replace the team as not competitive then so be it. I realize the other option is to rebuild many/most of the bots to be modern competitive.

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2017, 11:09:43 PM »
1 question,

Can we just submit our remakes to you right away or should we wait for your approval before sending it to you?

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2017, 11:34:52 AM »
You can send right away. Please use the naming system we mentioned for the Rebuilds.

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2017, 12:13:45 AM »
I am out of practice making screen shots but thought you would all like to see and comment on the updated T-800 Terminator (WIP):




Type:        HS
Weight:     796.9 Kg
Weapons: 36 Maces
Power:      2 Blacks
Armor:      DSA + Front Plow + 4 Casters
(If move Casters further forward it wobbles pretty badly)
Chassis:    Pretty darn close to air tight
Invertible: Yes
AGOD:      No

Vertical stacks of 4 Maces protect their extenders and give a wider sweep to hit low profile bots like Pop-ups.

Reduced from 4 Ramplates to 1 Plow + 4 Casters but was able to grow 9 more active weapons.

Reviewing battle videos I noticed:

1) Needed belly casters and lower sweep weapons versus Popups.

2) Versus bots like Absolute Chaos, the only solution seemed to have as many weapons.

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2017, 12:26:50 AM »
Looks good, can't think of anything to make it better. Nice.
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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2017, 12:33:52 AM »
Thanks, Sage! Coming from you as one of the originators of the 36HS that is high praise.

I know I took a different road with 3 HP-zteks and 4 weapons per tribar arm than most. (Took hours and many RA2 crashes to load up).

And from what I have seen many 36HS have no bonuses like invertible (needed grannies vs shinies to pull that off), belly caster armor and/or front plow or ramplates.

I am sure there are better out there. It has been 10ish years...

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2017, 01:52:50 AM »
Is that a 15cm caster i see?

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2017, 02:39:12 AM »
And from what I have seen many 36HS have no bonuses like invertible (needed grannies vs shinies to pull that off), belly caster armor and/or front plow or ramplates.
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Actually pretty much all of the 36HS should be invertible (or at least somewhat controllable while inverted). But yeah, the rest are advantages you could get when dropping a motor from the setup. Looks sweet.
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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2017, 02:42:52 AM »
Looks nice.

l think it would be worth trying one black battery instead of two with only 3 weapon motors and see what you can get with the extra 30kgs.
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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2017, 03:35:44 AM »
Is that a 15cm caster i see?

Yes, the Snappers in the back are up a notch so figured to fill in space and increase odds of the Caster taking the hit by that much more on the backs and sides in those rear corners.

And from what I have seen many 36HS have no bonuses like invertible (needed grannies vs shinies to pull that off), belly caster armor and/or front plow or ramplates.
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Actually pretty much all of the 36HS should be invertible (or at least somewhat controllable while inverted). But yeah, the rest are advantages you could get when dropping a motor from the setup. Looks sweet.

Well the invertible gets a bit harder with using the casters is why I mentioned.

Looks nice.

l think it would be worth trying one black battery instead of two with only 3 weapon motors and see what you can get with the extra 30kgs.

With the learning that the HP-zteks only take 100 each vs 400 as previously documented, yes I could drop down to 1 Black Battery and put 1 more Plow to the front or if I go asymmetrical might be able to squeeze on 2 more Plows.

There is some plus to keeping the 2nd Black Battery to keep the spinners at full power deeper into the match. Will do some timing tests to see if it stays over 3/4th power at 1 and 2 minute marks.

Can't quite put in 3 more Maces (would also need 3 more 20 cm extenders for another 6 Kg). Will think on it.

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2017, 06:50:11 PM »
I tried with 1 battery and was at half power at 1 minute. As I recall the batteries get weaker at 75%, 50% and 25%. Making for slower speeds which would be fewer rotations per second which could me fewer hits per unit of time.

But separately I went back and checked and in loading the maces, looks like I only got on 34 vs 36. So will need 20Kg to finish up the design. Looks like more work ahead of me. (Fewer casters or -1 battery to free up KG for full 36HS)

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Re: Starcore v4 Reboot Stock Showcase
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2017, 08:19:24 PM »
you can always go for 1 black + 1 nifty, it'll free up around 12 kg which is 2 more casters then.
or you can try mounting your maces like this

which would free up 18kgs on its own