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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2015, 01:42:03 AM »
well i'm getting beaten agains faster bots, even weaker ones, coz of the crapy engines i have!
i'm not very fast when i have to rotate my bot...

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I see some improvement, but I can still see a bit more to do.

-Learn to stack Black batteries. IT's tedious, but it saves a lot of room in the chassis.

-We're you trying to build a HS/Popup hybrid? That's pretty challenging even for some of us.

-Again, don't use RAD for drive on anything heavier then LW, your speed will be at a snail's pace, no pushing power, and no invert ability .

If you're looking for a challenge, learn to snapper load and build this all off a blue snapper. You'd be suprised how small you can make a chassis if you build it off a snapper. For the rest of this, Effe the ddt extenders so that they all are next to each other like other popups, and have then all hit at once. And with the snapper, you can cut down quite a bit, and add more weapons to the HS.

Sorry if this sounds complicated, building like sage takes a while.

Last thing, if you're looking for harder bots to practice on, Starcore AI is a great building block. Start off with V1, and when you dominate that, move on to the other, more advanced versions.

Again, feel free to correct me, veterans.

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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2015, 02:41:50 AM »
The guy above me's advice is mostly correct, but don't take it too literally.

RAD drive is perfectly fine for a MW HS... when you have a crazy amount of weaponry. Most HS use at least 12 weapons. 18 weapons that weigh 10kg is usually the upper limit for a MW HS. Weapons i would recommend are bear claws, iron spikes and mace balls (which you're using so good on you).
Other HS use less weapons, but have faster drive (like HP zteks) and usually also have a bunch of ramming weapons to further increase their damage. Weather you want the majority of your weapons on your weapon motors or as ramming weapons is up to you and where you want to take this robot.
As it stands I wouldn't recommend having those ramming razors on your robot until you learn to snapper load and eFFe. Ideally you would want to put the weapon motors, the ramming weapons, and the snowplow all on one snapperII.

Building robots until you can beat a given AI pack is fine and all, but my recommendation is to take a look at robots from other builder's showcases, and then take those concepts (like snapper loaded HS and such) to help you make your own robots better. There's a good set of tutorials here to help you figure out what's going on in any of the more advanced robots that you download. There's also the beetlebro tutorial that covers more broad concepts of how to build.

the hardest part, for me anyway, is taking advantage of some of the bugs in the game...
Yep, that's stock for you. HS are one of the most glitch-heavy robot types in the game.
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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2015, 06:02:31 AM »

I see some improvement, but I can still see a bit more to do.

-Learn to stack Black batteries. IT's tedious, but it saves a lot of room in the chassis.

-We're you trying to build a HS/Popup hybrid? That's pretty challenging even for some of us.

-Again, don't use RAD for drive on anything heavier then LW, your speed will be at a snail's pace, no pushing power, and no invert ability .

If you're looking for a challenge, learn to snapper load and build this all off a blue snapper. You'd be suprised how small you can make a chassis if you build it off a snapper. For the rest of this, Effe the ddt extenders so that they all are next to each other like other popups, and have then all hit at once. And with the snapper, you can cut down quite a bit, and add more weapons to the HS.

Sorry if this sounds complicated, building like sage takes a while.

Last thing, if you're looking for harder bots to practice on, Starcore AI is a great building block. Start off with V1, and when you dominate that, move on to the other, more advanced versions.

Again, feel free to correct me, veterans.

it doesn't sound to complicated but i do have some problems with some of the glitchs, (specially the 2 engines in the same place) and i don't know how to make the front of my bot with the angle the it's normally used...
i have been using Starcore v4 with some success, at least, agains the more normal bots....

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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2015, 06:22:51 AM »
The guy above me's advice is mostly correct, but don't take it too literally.

RAD drive is perfectly fine for a MW HS... when you have a crazy amount of weaponry. Most HS use at least 12 weapons. 18 weapons that weigh 10kg is usually the upper limit for a MW HS. Weapons i would recommend are bear claws, iron spikes and mace balls (which you're using so good on you).
Other HS use less weapons, but have faster drive (like HP zteks) and usually also have a bunch of ramming weapons to further increase their damage. Weather you want the majority of your weapons on your weapon motors or as ramming weapons is up to you and where you want to take this robot.
As it stands I wouldn't recommend having those ramming razors on your robot until you learn to snapper load and eFFe. Ideally you would want to put the weapon motors, the ramming weapons, and the snowplow all on one snapperII.

Building robots until you can beat a given AI pack is fine and all, but my recommendation is to take a look at robots from other builder's showcases, and then take those concepts (like snapper loaded HS and such) to help you make your own robots better. There's a good set of tutorials here to help you figure out what's going on in any of the more advanced robots that you download. There's also the beetlebro tutorial that covers more broad concepts of how to build.

the hardest part, for me anyway, is taking advantage of some of the bugs in the game...
Yep, that's stock for you. HS are one of the most glitch-heavy robot types in the game.

i have read most of the tutorial (specially that one) but i do have problems with some of the glitchs and i really don't like having to use them... still if i don't have anyother option.
i'm only in this game for 4 days and i'm trying to beat the Starcore V4 Alpha2 bots that are loaded with strange sh** with some success i might had. of course, that the really bugged bots kick the sh** out of me but that's cool! it's a wake up call that i'm still a rookie... :)

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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2015, 03:03:44 PM »
If you're not a fan of the glitches as much I'd take a look at the ironforge mod, it's balanced around realism more and glitches are banned for the most part
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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2015, 04:13:42 PM »
I definitely think you have potential. Some original bots you have so far, just keep working on shrinking the chassis and learning glitches.

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Re: my pos bots
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2015, 07:20:33 AM »
well i'm getting beaten agains faster bots, even weaker ones, coz of the crapy engines i have!
i'm not very fast when i have to rotate my bot...

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In MW and below you really don't have enough budget to fully commit into 2 styles (in this case a HS/Popup hybrid), so I suggest focusing the bot on a single style (either a HS or a Popup) until you know enough of the game's glitches to shave enough weight to support hybrids