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« on: November 27, 2016, 10:19:32 AM »
Made some changes to Finity. Enlarged the chassis slightly so that I can get a Tornado Mer Motor in there for the weapon. Downgraded the drive to regular NPCs. Sitting right on the weight limit at 799.2kg now. Also room for a 13 black-style double angled spinner arrangement, I'd just need to find the weight. Pics below: External:  Internal: 
1522
« on: November 27, 2016, 09:19:39 AM »
thats a ridiculous amount of drive for a HS. Downgrade the drive and increase the weaponry i'd say.
How should I increase the weaponry? I tried to fit a Tornado Mer Gearbox but it wouldn't fit.
1523
« on: November 27, 2016, 09:02:54 AM »
Awesome angle spinner! What does it weigh and what armour is it using?
It weighs 794.3KG and has Al5 for armour (Not Ideal I know, but otherwise I had a lot of weight to spare and I didn't know what to use it on.)
1524
« on: November 27, 2016, 08:43:05 AM »
Double Post  Made this bot last night. It's an angled bar spinner called Finity. 2X NPC Fasts for drive, 1X TWM3R2 for weapon power. Weapon is slightly underpowered but still does decently. Lots of armour around all of the sides. Pics below: External:  Internal:  Comments welcome.
1525
« on: November 26, 2016, 06:55:37 PM »
Upgraded Vertigo once more. Taking TheRoboteer's suggestion, it now has a bar srimech with supports, which looks a bit more realistic. I also extended the two wedges on the sides, to stop it doing a forward somersault every time it hits something. Might rustle up a proper skin for it and enter it into Badnik's artbot tourney, since it's probably the artiest bot I have.
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Looks bloody amazing. Goddamn man.
1526
« on: November 26, 2016, 06:18:56 PM »
Figured I'd start posting here again because why not. Here's a few bots that I've been working on over the past month. WARNING: PICSPAM INCOMING (I'll chop this up into multiple posts if anyone has a problem with all these images) First up, MW and LW versions of Bocuma. MW version is called Boqurant and has 2X TWM3R Drives for Drive and 1X Storm Front-hinge burst piston for weapon power. Pics below. External:  Internal:  Then there's the LW version, which is called Compound. 2X slimbodies for drive and 1X VDMA front-hinge piston for weapon power. Wheels are slightly exposed because they physically wouldn't fit inside the chassis. Pics below. External:  Internal:  Then we have two more bots. One is a very generic (But also extremely powerful) MW flipper, and the other is a HW VS with a chassis that is enormous (But having it any smaller made the bot super unstable and basically undrivable) First up the flipper. It's called Ziggurat because it sounds cool. 2X NPC regulars for drive, and 2X Storm front-hinge bursts for weapon power. Batteries just barely get it through a fight provided you're not insane with the flipper. Pics below External:  Internal:  Then the VS. It's called Miasma. Chassis is way too big. I originally had it a lot more reasonably sized, but it was way too unstable and basically undrivable. Dubious as to whether the disc supports are strong/prominent enough to qualify as IRL, so I'll let you guys be the judge of that. 2x NPC fasts for drive and 1X Perm-132L for weapon power. Pics below. External:  Internal:  Feedback welcome.
1527
« on: October 21, 2016, 01:50:45 PM »
What do you want me to say?
We had a difference in opinion, that happens. You made me look like a bad guy too you know, this isn't a one way street.
What we have to do is work past our issues and come together as a community.
Leaving fixes nothing, I'm sure you know that.
Sorry if I made you feel sh**ty, I'm sure that makes us even. We can accept our differences and continue to look forward to series 2. :)
I don't expect you to say anything. I'm not expecting an apology for us having a difference in opinion. Nor do I expect one for you making me look like a bad guy. The difference here is that you're already established as a member of this community. Everybody already knows that you're not a bad guy. I know that. You know that, and I'm sorry I made you look like one. I on the other hand. Have been on this forum for about two weeks. This is most people's first impression of me. Nobody knows what I'm actually like. They say first impression is everything. And that's mine. Done. And you say leaving fixes nothing but I'd say you know that's not true. I no longer have to worry about me looking like a piece of sh** to everyone on this site, and you no longer have to worry about arguing with people like me. It's mutually beneficial. Maybe I'll post in my showcase from time to time, I dunno. And again, I apologise for what I said, and if this has made the situation even worse,the I apologise for that also. Sorry for being a drama queen. I'm done.
1528
« on: October 21, 2016, 01:18:23 PM »
I wasn't calling them fame hungry, just calling out the fact that those bots are legal in the live circuit and therefore a new series shouldn't be the defining reason they are made is the builders truly enjoy the hobby.
I'm done now. Not gonna reply if everything's being taken out of context. Peace.
Well, thanks for making me look like the bad guy then for misconstruing what you said What a thoroughly unpleasant experience. I think i'll stick to Reddit.
1529
« on: October 21, 2016, 01:13:02 PM »
Neutron was being upgraded regardless of if RW came back.
I know, but why go through the whole debacle of applying to RW and making the improvements necessary to Neutron if the live events up and down the country are of equal prestige to RW?
So Robot Wars is the only event now that spinners can run at?
Damn someone should let Battlebots and Robogames know that they can't run spinners any more, I'm sure they'll be keen to know why that is.
If you can't back up your arguments with anything but a personal attack then I have nothing more to say on the matter.
Battlebots and Robogames are abroad. If it was easy to compete in them I have no doubt that every single Robot Wars team would at the very least apply to Battlebots and Robogames. Again, it wasn't intended as a personal attack. I was merely curious as to how you could call the teams who were intending to make improvements for RW S2 but had to pull out due to time restrictions "Fame Hungry" when you were entering the same event yourselves
1530
« on: October 21, 2016, 01:11:10 PM »
Applying isn't a debacle, it's 1 form. And improvements were being done regardless.
I'm sorry but when did this conversation turn from teams not being prepped for season 2 to an attack on our character?
Sorry if you took it as an attack on your character, it wasn't intending it as that at all. I was just curious as to how you could call the teams who were intending to make improvements for RW S2 but had to pull out due to time restrictions "Fame Hungry" when you were entering the same event yourselves
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« on: October 21, 2016, 01:06:48 PM »
Neutron was being upgraded regardless of if RW came back.
I know, but why go through the whole debacle of applying to RW and making the improvements necessary to Neutron if the live events up and down the country are of equal prestige to RW?
1532
« on: October 21, 2016, 01:00:15 PM »
Aaaaaaaa my point was Tornado and Gravity would be able to run at Live events just fine so why does RW have to happen for them to be made?
Just fame hungry?
Also the rw reddit has a fair list Badnik.
Because Robot Wars gives them an incentive for investing the money required. It's essentially the 'World Cup' of UK robot combat. It allows them to show off their engineering prowess to a nationwide audience, as well as getting to be on Televison.You could ask the same question of literally any of the bots who have been built or upgraded specifically for Battlebots or Robot Wars. I'd hardly call it being 'Fame Hungry'. My question to you in that case is why are YOU competing in Robot Wars if the only reason to is being 'Fame hungry'
1533
« on: October 21, 2016, 12:46:33 PM »
He was spending it on a robot not Robot Wars.
Plus if you look at the teams who've pulled out
Tornado, Storm 2, Gravity... Definitely bots that need RW to be commissioned to have an event to run at 
The issue of spinners is just an added issue on top of the main ones: Money and Time. Tornado and Gravity were going to be completely rebuilt for series 2. This cannot be done between now and December. Your counter point to this is that they should have been building before now. My point is that building before now would have been gambling with their money as there was no confirmation that a second series was going to happen.
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« on: October 21, 2016, 12:32:23 PM »
Tweedy's an apprentice, the Hypno boys have their own company iirc. I don't think spare money comes into it :P
It's not the amount of money I'm talking about. I'm talking about willingness to spend it on something that you don't know is going to happen or not. You may be willing to spend money speculatively, but others likely aren't. Preparing for Series 2 before it had been announced would basically be a form of gambling. ]The fact you think I have more money and time than most roboteers is quite amusing, I'm making less than minimum wage and I can manage to get a heavy spinner done in time. Why is that? Because I'm building before and don't have to fork out £2000+ in a matter of six weeks to get a machine ready.
As I said there are other events that you can fight spinners at, Robogames for example, if someone can afford to build a heavy, regardless of timescale then they can afford to either pay to go to Robogames, or save to pay for that trip.
If you want to get a machine in and ready in time build it early, people have been saying that since the first episode aired. If people don't want to do that then they have nobody to blame when they can't complete a bot in the timescale that Mentorn have given.
Also, flippers being effective has absolutely nothing to do with timescales, the issues that were caused at the event were based on temperature. They could literally pluck any 4 flippers from the live circuit and the problem would persist because it's an inherent issue with pneumatics. I don't think you have more money. I think that you're willing to invest what money you do have more readily. Building a bot for series 2 before it had been announced essentially amounts to gambling, and while you were successful this time there was no way to know if you would be defore S2 was announced And pneumatics effectiveness is tied (if indirectly) to timescales. If they'd have given Roboteers until May to prepare rather than December then builders would have had longer to make their bots and Pneumatics would have been more effecive due to them not filming in the middle of winter.
1535
« on: October 21, 2016, 12:18:40 PM »
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.
It's still a big investment to build a new bot or upgrade an existing one for TV. The teams who didn't prepare likely didn't choose to because it's a big gamble to start preparing for the second series before you actually know it's going to happen. Imagine if you'd started investing all this money to ready Neutron up for a second series for it to never happen. It'd be pretty awful, especially considering that Neutron is a spinner and therefore couldn't even compete in live events to recoup some of the costs.
Hi, I'm the guy that has plowed every penny I have into Neutron to get it ready. I have been doing this regardless of whether there was a series 2 or not. Robot wars isn't the end all be all of robot combat, there are other places and other events that we can fight machines at and yes that includes spinners as well.
The point I'm trying to make is that it makes sense to build as quickly and as soon as possible, it both means that you're not just sending in a CAD as an application and that you don't have to build in such a massively constrained time frame.
I understand what you're saying. But take the Hypno Disc team for example. They said that they wanted to compete if there was a series 2 of Robot Wars. We now know that to be true, but they had no idea whether it was going to happen and how much time they would have when they said that. It would have been stupid for them to start building back then for an event which they had no idea if it was going to happen or not, especially as their bot revolves entirely around a weapon type that is nigh on outlawed in the UK apart from a very small amount of events (Robot Wars being one of them). While you may have the time and money to invest based completely on speculation, not everyone does, and a short time window like the one that has been provided has absolutely no benefits over giving teams longer to prepare, which would allow use to see more bots, better bots and have flippers actually be effective.
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« on: October 21, 2016, 11:51:41 AM »
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.
It's still a big investment to build a new bot or upgrade an existing one for TV. The teams who didn't prepare likely didn't choose to because it's a big gamble to start preparing for the second series before you actually know it's going to happen. Imagine if you'd started investing all this money to ready Neutron up for a second series for it to never happen. It'd be pretty awful, especially considering that Neutron is a spinner and therefore couldn't even compete in live events to recoup some of the costs.
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« on: October 21, 2016, 11:21:37 AM »
Anyone that has been wise and was prepping since the first series is ready. Lots of bots are ready, and lots of teams that should've known better are not.
I don't really agree that the teams "should've known better". Nobody even knew if a second series was going to happen. It would've been quite a gamble for them to start investing the money to build a new bot for a second series that they didn't know was going to happen.
1538
« on: October 20, 2016, 11:04:30 AM »
Holy sh** that MW VS. I dream of being able to build something like that someday.
1539
« on: October 20, 2016, 10:41:41 AM »
Looks really nice. I particularly like the extender work around the wheels. Only thing I think could be better is the srimech. Looks a bit bulky and not really IRL. I think two bars that rest flat either side of the disks would look better. Great work though! 
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« on: October 20, 2016, 10:19:23 AM »
I very much like the fast improvement in this thread. Keep it up!
Zirconium is very solid. I love how the top armor flows nicely with the wedge.
Thanks man. I've been playing this game for 2 years, but I feel like I've learned more in the past two weeks than I did in the entire rest of my time playing RA2. Getting the top armour to mesh nicely with the front was probably the part of this bot that I was happiest with. Now I just need to get good at skinning.
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