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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2009, 11:44:04 AM »
Oh, THAT Cideous. I forgot.
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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2009, 03:46:42 PM »
Quote from: Naryar;28289
I suppose it's more difficult than beefing up both of the throttle and turnspeed values...

I'd like to have a try at Cideous.


I looked at beefing up of throttle and turnspeed values for Borg Queen in the Bindings.py and they were already set to max+. Since she moves fast enough in the Garage and not in Arenas I am more suspecting other factors. Going to start with a not too painful rebuild that lowers the motors down one notch to increase ground clearance. That usually induces wobble but might be needed in this case.

As to Cideous, that is not an easy bot to improve but glad to see how you do.

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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2009, 06:12:56 AM »
Cideous 2 will be done soon. I'm considering adding some features.

Will skin it and try to AI it too.
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2009, 06:31:32 AM »
Can someone give me another link for snapper II's, stock ai pats, smartzones, ect. cause the link i have on GTM doesnt work (My browser)
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2009, 01:09:38 PM »
I'll be the first to say that ALL the bots need modifications. RBP and NWB seem a little too easy compared to most other HW's.
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2009, 01:13:31 PM »
I be happy to remake The Troll. I always felt that its just not as powerful as it should be.

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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2009, 01:31:07 PM »
I'm already making versions of the LW's.
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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2009, 01:52:32 PM »
Nonsense! Neglected Waterbug is still a great bot. Might one of the best wedges ever built.

For some idiotic reason i can't seem to stack the snappers and blacks on Cideous.

I might rebuild The Bloody Pendulum too because this one sucks.

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« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2009, 02:34:43 PM »
Here's my summery of bots that Need fixing:

Blander Snatch: Needs two curved hammers, two ploughs and a decent wedge.

Jabberwokky: Final destination reskinned.

Ultraviolet: Nifty, HPZ drive(external) and One piston only. The wedge should be longer and use Razors on the piston, and leave the bottom row as a set of stationary irons. (I also reccomend renaming it to somthing like ULTRAviolence or something.)

Meteor: Add a side hammer, remake those piston hammers.

NWB: I'll admit is IS very good, bot The chassis should be fixed to gain weight to spend. then spent said weight on some side armour.
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« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2009, 02:48:02 PM »
I agree on Bandersnatch & Jabberwock. Bandersnatch could actually be Sage's MC Hammer or something like that.

I'll use full pointy tips on Ultraviolet, but external HPZ drive is too dangerous IMO. Ultraviolence is a great name.

I fear that a NWB rebuild wouldn't be as wedgy as the first one. (excepted if someone wants to spend 10 hours on it)

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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2009, 02:53:50 PM »
External drives are great! Perhaps we could make out own versions and post them up to see who's design is better?

Also, I'm thinking of adding my own team to the AI pack, as Starcore said that new teams are welcome.
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2009, 03:14:48 PM »
Quote from: Naryar;28364
Bandersnatch could actually be Sage's MC Hammer or something like that.

bad idea. I 'failed' to mention this when i posted for BOTM, but the right wheel is slightly AGOD, and the bot has almost never won a fight. :D

Its too Fast, and not stable enough. As you can in the botm the splash, there are no battleshots. i won on looks alone on that one :P

i think i can do better, and might try soon.
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« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2009, 03:12:21 AM »
Well AI can run the motors at lower percentage easy enough. But you would need to work on stability and balance. The bot looks like a great alternative for Jabberwock but yes it needs to be combat worthy to take on the role and title.

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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2009, 03:19:48 AM »
Quote from: System32;28363
Here's my summery of bots that Need fixing:

Blander Snatch: Needs two curved hammers, two ploughs and a decent wedge.

Jabberwokky: Final destination reskinned.

Ultraviolet: Nifty, HPZ drive(external) and One piston only. The wedge should be longer and use Razors on the piston, and leave the bottom row as a set of stationary irons. (I also reccomend renaming it to somthing like ULTRAviolence or something.)

Meteor: Add a side hammer, remake those piston hammers.

NWB: I'll admit is IS very good, bot The chassis should be fixed to gain weight to spend. then spent said weight on some side armour.


Glad to see what you have in mind for Bandersnatch.

Rejected was one to spend a bit of chassis weight to look cooler. Especially when the difference was not enough to make any real difference. I was always a fan of pixel lean minimal often boxy designs because I too was looking to trim as much weight and target area as I could. Rejected kept challenging me to be more artistic...

Here is a bit of trivia on Ultraviolet: There was a rather famous Poker bot back when named Deep Blue. I felt I could make a better version so I made the Deeper Blue aka Ultraviolet. Works for me to update him/her and update the name to Ultraviolence though it was also a cool 2006 movie with Milla Jovovich. This bot was named before that movie came out.

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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2009, 06:24:07 AM »
I've seen it on a youtube video.
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« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2009, 06:59:41 AM »
I'm having issues with The Bloody Pendulum and Cideous - stability, mainly. Plus, TPB's wedges suck.

But I learned something: Do not attach a spinning weapon on your wedge.

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« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2009, 08:45:17 AM »
Blander Snatch prototype:

It's drive is too weak IMO, so I'll see if I can fix it. It's powered by a black, and has Snapper 2's attaching the armour and wedge.
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« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2009, 09:43:30 AM »
Wedges should be farther from each other, hammers should be more curvy, and the plows could be farther also.

Not bad though.

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« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2009, 10:31:39 AM »
Thanks.

Made wedge better and widened ploughs. It seems to AGOD when I garage and back.
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« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2009, 02:35:24 PM »
STDP: The BW Mini hunter is facing the wrong way, and runs away from other bots bacause of it.
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