Nate Tech's DSL bots

[Nate Tech]

Here is my first DSL bot: Techno FS (yes I have a Stock TechnoFS too)


Sorry for the bad inside shot. It has 4 ants and it has titanium 5, I think.
Here is saturn:


It has Titanium 10 armor and does well in a fight
Ok, this was a joke type bot, but it actually does fairly well: Overtaker



That's all for now, please tell my how badly I did :D

[cephalopod]

Some good ideas there, some need a lot of improvement though.

Everyone will give you an identical long list of things, so best thing to do, is just read this for a quick guide
https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Naryar%27s_DSL_tips

But here's my generalised top tips anyhow:
Don't use Piglets for drive
1 ant battery per spin motor
Build realistically
NPC Fasts are the best drive motors
Halfsheets are bad unless directly attached to the bottom of the chassis
Only use Multiextenders when they're connected to the chassis - otherwise their HP is looow.
You don't need nearly that many gas canisters

[Nate Tech]

Yes, these are my first decent robots in DSL, I normally use NPC fasts for drive and the overtaker is not serious at all.

[FOTEPX]

The first one would work well as an IRL realistic bot, that is, if you give it a bit of a cleanup.

[Reier]

By the way- the GTM definition of DSL realism means bars and weapons and stuff can pass through anything that could have a slot cut in it IRL (such as snowplows and the chassis, etc.) but not things like batteries and wheels.
IRL realism is just that, and is for lame-os like FOPTOPZEEOPX who can't build good bots. :P

And good job on installing DSL by yourself, you would not believe how many newbs can't figure it out. Just don't use any cheat parts (parts that didn't come with DSL and/or cheatbot2 parts)

As for the bots,

Techno FS:

I can't see what drive you used, but on a FS NPCs are usually best from my experience.

Weapon basic premise is good, I see you've been lurking. The motors you used are fine for a MW FS, but the weapons you chose are a little on the weak side. For instance, I give at least 10 kg a spike on a MW FS (again, can vary a lot). A good setup is a beater bar with a light DS tooth on the tip of it. Oh, and I'd personally mount the discs directly on the motor.

Nice catch using multi extenders instead of baseplate anchors to mount things on the chassis (common newb mistake). On thing you probably don't want to do though is mount them outside the chassis, as they have pathetic HP (things mounted directly on the chassis have infinite HP).

The armor is a good idea. However, it's not the best setup, and halfplates really aren't a good armor choice (unless they're directly mounted on the bottom of the chassis of course). Also the shark tooth on the hex plate isn't doing anything as-is. Good armors include those shell plates (you can spam them like crazy and it's awesome), plows (expecially the 35 kg one, it has crazy high HP), or just the lighter extender sheets.

The wheels aren't bad but there are some better ones, such as hypnos or vlads.

I never got batteries really but I hear like 1 ant a spin motor is best or something for minimum, but don't overdo it.

Saturn:

Yeah, that's where tite sheets are supposed to go!

Circle chassiseseses aren't a good idea. Saying this from experience.

Good job using the mega-beefy motor on that thing, but in all honesty you're gonna die because the weapon is a little on the weak side. See, right now the only weapons doing damage are the end hammers (not the best weapon in themselves) and the inner ones aren't doing anything. If you put like a flat shell plate on the end of the bar and put hammers on that, it'd be better. Just an example.

Plows are generally a good idea, but the back one isn't really doing anything. I'd beef up the sides if I were you. Also, you can mount a plow with just one ME instead of two :D

Overtaker

Never use piglets for drive. :P Seriously, they're only good for small weapon motors. They have high RPM but the torque of roadkill.

Hope this helped. Some of the best DSL builders include 123STW, Naryar, and Pwnator, so listen to em.

[Nate Tech]

Thanks for the great advice guys, Reier, Techno FS does have NPC Fasts on it. Also, what should I use for the top armor? any hammer would crush it. I normally don't use piglets for drive, so I'll improve Overtaker. I'll re-do Saturn with your advice, and change TFS's weapon, I think I can spare a bit of weight. For some reason the game wouldn't let me mount the disc on the motor and the disc falls off easily. I'll work on them right away!

[Reier]

Oh oops I goofed. The weapon motors on your FS are drive, and those are inferior to weapon motors on this, so I'd change them. Drives just don't have enough speed for weapons generally.

About the armor, just mess around with a different setup, but keep in mind Hammers > FS usually in a fight so I can't guarantee it'd do much.

[Nate Tech]

Ok, here's the new Saturn:


I had to downgrade the weapon motor to get a better weapon. There are 2 tita sheets on the bottom. It has plastic 10 armor now

[NFX]

Plastic 10 armour is generally overkill on a serious bot. Titanium 3, or Plastic 5 is generally a good choice. Plus, when it spins, only the weapons on one side will hit the opponent, the opposite weapons will be useless. I'd swap the complicated setup on the ends of the bar for a big heavy hammer, ideally the 70kg one if you can get away with it. And a tip that will be very useful, spin motors need ONE ant battery to work at maximum power for 3 minutes. No idea why, but it's just how the game works. That'll save you some more weight for either weaponry or defenses.

[Nate Tech]

Ah, got it. I'll go change it.

[Nate Tech]

DP. Now, here's Saturn III (didn't change the name in the botlab yet)


Still Plastic 10 armor.Not sure what to do with the extra space. I need it for the weapon motor, if anyone says "Shrink the Chassis!!"

[ty4er]

Mount the motor outside with some halfplates half under it and shrink the chassis :P

[Philippa]

Techno FS = Armadrillo

[Naryar]

Ok, here's the new Saturn:
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I had to downgrade the weapon motor to get a better weapon. There are 2 tita sheets on the bottom. It has plastic 10 armor now

That's an horrible weapon setup you've got there....

Consider changing it to one heavy weapon on each arm of your spinner, that is on each external AP of the DSL bar. (DSL bars are fine, you just attached an awful mess on them as weapons)

[Nate Tech]

No, Techno is a lot better Kurt. Naryar, that's why I changed it...

[Naryar]

Oh wait, yes you did changed it. I just didn't see your third, cause my internet is kinda slow and didn't downloaded it when I posted that. And yeah, that's an excuse I did not pull out of my ass.

The third one is better, but your armor setup is a bit messy.

IRL realism is just that, and is for lame-os like FOPTOPZEEOPX who can't build good bots. :P

Also why haven't I QFT'ed that ?

[Philippa]

No, Techno is a lot better Kurt.

I meant it looks like it 

[Reier]

Oh wait, yes you did changed it. I just didn't see your third, cause my internet is kinda slow and didn't downloaded it when I posted that. And yeah, that's an excuse I did not pull out of my ass.

The third one is better, but your armor setup is a bit messy.

IRL realism is just that, and is for lame-os like FOPTOPZEEOPX who can't build good bots. :P

Also why haven't I QFT'ed that ?

You know how sometimes when people are near really loud things they don't hear them? (i.e. Mount Saint Helens)
Well, it's like that. But instead of sound it's just my awesomeness.

And Saturn's looking better than the first two.

[Nate Tech]

Thanks guys. I have a few upgrades to Saturn, Ill post them later cause I just got Garry's Mod

[Badnik96]

Overtaker looks just like the first bot 123STW (THE best DSL builder on the forums by far) showcased.

Keep at it dude, you've got definite potential.