the state of gaming...

[Natef]

"World of Warcraft - Too many n00bs (A common ailment of most online gaming (RA2's ailment is epic lag syndrome which is why i never play RA2 online)"


I haven't seen that many.

[Mr. AS]

World of Warcraft - Too many n00bs

have you ever played any online games ever ?  there will always be n00bs when its connected to the internet

[ianh05]

Everytime a awesome games such as  Okami, Enslaved, or Psychonauts come out people go and buy the next stupid $%@# Call of duty, World of Warcraft, God of War or some other mass produced garbage like that. While the truly innovative games never get the sequels they deserve.

WoW is good and GoW 1 was a great game. You are about as dumb as Ianh.

Ease up mate, I'm not the only one with that opinion. The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player, so yeah $80-$90 for some new maps and maybe new guns seems totally worth it right? let's face it they are milking that money cow.


WoW is ok, they give players some new stuff to do a fair bit. It does tend to get a bit boring though and players often go on breaks for months to a year or so.

[System32]

Ease up mate, I'm not the only one with that opinion.

Idiots can come in numbers.

[freeziez]

S32, you're kind of being dumb. He's entitled to his own opinion, and you don't need to come here to whine about it.

[Enigm@]

Ease up mate, I'm not the only one with that opinion.

Idiots can come in numbers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVgXGw_XhRQ&feature=related#

[Kossokei]

Everytime a awesome games such as  Okami, Enslaved, or Psychonauts come out people go and buy the next stupid $%@# Call of duty, World of Warcraft, God of War or some other mass produced garbage like that. While the truly innovative games never get the sequels they deserve.

At the penalty of beating the dead horse here, the God of War series was pretty unique when it started. There aren't many beat-the-living-sh**-out-of-mythology-legends around, and now it's just the perfect storm for action/puzzle enjoyers. WoW is just massive by default, don't hate it because it's beautiful. Call of Duty is great for people who have a little bit more jingles in their pockets than some of us do, or live and breathe FPS.

That being said, many great original games succumb to mainstream BS, I agree with you there, but it's the really great games that survive the onslaught and become popular games. Like Minecraft for example. (Yeah yeah, Indie gaming, whatever.)

PS: WoW's a dinosaur, it's really not as popular as you think anymore.

[Chaosmancer]

The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player

To be honest, people can and will do what they want with their money, and if they just so happen to enjoy games for their multiplayer, then let them have their fun. It isn't really like it is killing the games industry, or anything like that. In fact, I am pretty sure that many of the people who buy CoD are the kinds of people who are either not avid gamers (they are usually into FPSs, or racing games), so they wouldn't buy anything else anyway, and the rest of the people who buy it will be buying other games as well. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are lots of people who play through the single player first, and then play the multiplayer (well, the multiplayer is really the only part that gives CoD any replayability). CoD isn't a bad thing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that you should try to ruin the fun for people who do (I enjoyed playing the zombie game mode and Spec-Ops with my dad).

[Kossokei]

The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player

To be honest, people can and will do what they want with their money, and if they just so happen to enjoy games for their multiplayer, then let them have their fun. It isn't really like it is killing the games industry, or anything like that. In fact, I am pretty sure that many of the people who buy CoD are the kinds of people who are either not avid gamers (they are usually into FPSs, or racing games), so they wouldn't buy anything else anyway, and the rest of the people who buy it will be buying other games as well. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are lots of people who play through the single player first, and then play the multiplayer (well, the multiplayer is really the only part that gives CoD any replayability). CoD isn't a bad thing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that you should try to ruin the fun for people who do (I enjoyed playing the zombie game mode and Spec-Ops with my dad).

I don't like the negativity that Racing games are getting here.. Carmageddon 1 and GTA 2 got me into gaming.

[Reier]

Everytime a awesome games such as  Okami, Enslaved, or Psychonauts come out people go and buy the next stupid $%@# Call of duty, World of Warcraft, God of War or some other mass produced garbage like that. While the truly innovative games never get the sequels they deserve.

WoW is good and GoW 1 was a great game. You are about as dumb as Ianh.

Ease up mate, I'm not the only one with that opinion.

S32 dictates that your opinion is wrong. Remove yourself from his sight.

[Meganerdbomb]

S32, you're kind of being a dick. He's entitled to his own opinion, and you don't need to come here to whine and bitch about it.

Anyone who calls God of War sh** is deserving of ridicule.

[Chaosmancer]

The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player

To be honest, people can and will do what they want with their money, and if they just so happen to enjoy games for their multiplayer, then let them have their fun. It isn't really like it is killing the games industry, or anything like that. In fact, I am pretty sure that many of the people who buy CoD are the kinds of people who are either not avid gamers (they are usually into FPSs, or racing games), so they wouldn't buy anything else anyway, and the rest of the people who buy it will be buying other games as well. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are lots of people who play through the single player first, and then play the multiplayer (well, the multiplayer is really the only part that gives CoD any replayability). CoD isn't a bad thing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that you should try to ruin the fun for people who do (I enjoyed playing the zombie game mode and Spec-Ops with my dad).

I don't like the negativity that Racing games are getting here.. Carmageddon 1 and GTA 2 got me into gaming.

I'm not giving racing games any hate at all, I'm just saying that the people who are not really avid gamers will generally go for FPSs or racing games, no negativity whatsoever (I personally loved the Star Wars racing game for the N64, as well as Crash Team Racing, and even the Muppets racing game for the PS1). I wasn't saying that all people who play racing games and FPSs aren't avid gamers, just that a lot of people that don't play games too often will generally go for FPSs or racing games...maybe some sports games too. Sorry if I said it in a way that could be misinterpreted, I wrote the previous post when I hadn't been up very long, and I apologise if this post makes no sense , but I am still not fully awake.

[Kossokei]

S32, you're kind of being a dick. He's entitled to his own opinion, and you don't need to come here to whine and bitch about it.

Anyone who calls God of War sh** is deserving of ridicule.

You said it, not me. But I do agree.

The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player

To be honest, people can and will do what they want with their money, and if they just so happen to enjoy games for their multiplayer, then let them have their fun. It isn't really like it is killing the games industry, or anything like that. In fact, I am pretty sure that many of the people who buy CoD are the kinds of people who are either not avid gamers (they are usually into FPSs, or racing games), so they wouldn't buy anything else anyway, and the rest of the people who buy it will be buying other games as well. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are lots of people who play through the single player first, and then play the multiplayer (well, the multiplayer is really the only part that gives CoD any replayability). CoD isn't a bad thing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that you should try to ruin the fun for people who do (I enjoyed playing the zombie game mode and Spec-Ops with my dad).

I don't like the negativity that Racing games are getting here.. Carmageddon 1 and GTA 2 got me into gaming.

I'm not giving racing games any hate at all, I'm just saying that the people who are not really avid gamers will generally go for FPSs or racing games, no negativity whatsoever (I personally loved the Star Wars racing game for the N64, as well as Crash Team Racing, and even the Muppets racing game for the PS1). I wasn't saying that all people who play racing games and FPSs aren't avid gamers, just that a lot of people that don't play games too often will generally go for FPSs or racing games...maybe some sports games too. Sorry if I said it in a way that could be misinterpreted, I wrote the previous post when I hadn't been up very long, and I apologise if this post makes no sense , but I am still not fully awake.

Don't worry, the post was pretty clear to me. Anyway, I wasn't really pointing you out in particular, but I guess I was a little too forward. What I meant was, in this topic the Racing genre isn't really perceived as a 'gaming game', and I sort of disagree with that.

Flying off topic, the Carmageddon series is so underrated.

[courthousedoc]

What about Burnout, Twisted Metal, or Flatout?

[ianh05]

S32, you're kind of being a dumb. He's entitled to his own opinion, and you don't need to come here to whine about it.

Anyone who calls God of War sh** is deserving of ridicule.

I don't recall calling it that :/


@S32 my opinion is that they are milking the modern military shooter genre way to much and should make room for other games, they quit hogging the media and social spotlight. If you don't like my opinion that's fine because everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but calling me an idiot etc. and acting childish is just proving that I have struck a nerve.

The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player

To be honest, people can and will do what they want with their money, and if they just so happen to enjoy games for their multiplayer, then let them have their fun. It isn't really like it is killing the games industry, or anything like that. In fact, I am pretty sure that many of the people who buy CoD are the kinds of people who are either not avid gamers (they are usually into FPSs, or racing games), so they wouldn't buy anything else anyway, and the rest of the people who buy it will be buying other games as well. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are lots of people who play through the single player first, and then play the multiplayer (well, the multiplayer is really the only part that gives CoD any replayability). CoD isn't a bad thing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that you should try to ruin the fun for people who do (I enjoyed playing the zombie game mode and Spec-Ops with my dad).

Not trying to ruin it for anyone, I'm not even saying they're bad games. I just think 6+ series most with sequels all about modern war is pretty excessive and there's a huge lack of creative input on the part of the devs, is like they just copied and pasted. Imagine if The Sims had 4-5 rival games all the same concept and graphical style and they all had at least 5 sequels. Now imagine those games always getting the big game spotlight, you'd get sick of it pretty quick right?

[Kossokei]

S32, you're kind of being dumb. He's entitled to his own opinion, and you don't need to come here to whine about it.

Anyone who calls God of War sh** is deserving of ridicule. I still agree with this, lulz

I don't recall calling it that :/ You didn't, Courthousedoc did.


@S32 my opinion is that they are milking the modern military shooter genre way to much and should make room for other games, they quit hogging the media and social spotlight. If you don't like my opinion that's fine because everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but calling me an idiot etc. and acting childish is just proving that I have struck a nerve.

The real dumb people are the people forking out money for the same game over and over again when they never play anything but the multi-player

To be honest, people can and will do what they want with their money, and if they just so happen to enjoy games for their multiplayer, then let them have their fun. It isn't really like it is killing the games industry, or anything like that. In fact, I am pretty sure that many of the people who buy CoD are the kinds of people who are either not avid gamers (they are usually into FPSs, or racing games), so they wouldn't buy anything else anyway, and the rest of the people who buy it will be buying other games as well. Besides, I am pretty sure that there are lots of people who play through the single player first, and then play the multiplayer (well, the multiplayer is really the only part that gives CoD any replayability). CoD isn't a bad thing, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that you should try to ruin the fun for people who do (I enjoyed playing the zombie game mode and Spec-Ops with my dad).

Not trying to ruin it for anyone, I'm not even saying they're bad games. I just think 6+ series most with sequels all about modern war is pretty excessive and there's a huge lack of creative input on the part of the devs, is like they just copied and pasted. Imagine if The Sims had 4-5 rival games all the same concept and graphical style and they all had at least 5 sequels. Now imagine those games always getting the big game spotlight, you'd get sick of it pretty quick right?

[courthousedoc]

Video game companies need to stop looking at video games as get rich quick schemes and instead focus on what they really should be... Art

[Kossokei]

Video game companies need to stop looking at video games as get rich quick schemes and instead focus on what they really should be... Art

You REALLY like Okami.

To the general eye, Art is boring. I haven't had one guy who's known me come up and compliment my Clarinet playing (Though, there's two meanings to that.) Sure, Art is pretty, and all arts are fascinating and take skill to do but they require a large attention span to enjoy. With these cliche mainstream modern war games, the only attention span you really need to have is "GUNS, BLOOD, MONEY" and that's it. That's what they're counting on.

But then there are the truly beautiful games like the Portal series, the Half-Life series, Minecraft, the Metal Gear series for sure, and if you look at it from a severely twisted way, God of War has a beautiful aura to it. Even it's namesake doppelganger Gears of War has a beautiful story illustrated through many gory, bloody, terrifying and depressing scenes.

You're missing out mate.

[courthousedoc]

Let's make this clear I want to love the God of War franchise but my fingers well they aren't really that fast so I can't do rapid button presses. Ah well guess i could always watch a God of War walkthrough on Youtube but it wont be the same as playing through it.

Anyway here's an artsy game that I'm currently stuck on

Trailer Park King (Xbox 360 Indie Game)



If anyone can find a walkthrough it would help (I really want to see the story to the end)

[Enigm@]

Let's make this clear I want to love the God of War franchise but my fingers well they aren't really that fast so I can't do rapid button presses. Ah well guess i could always watch a God of War walkthrough on Youtube but it wont be the same as playing through it.

Anyway here's an artsy game that I'm currently stuck on

Trailer Park King (Xbox 360 Indie Game)

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