Author Topic: The DSL Super Efficient Designs of The Ounce (Read 107273 times)

123savethewhales · « **Reply #360 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:27:46 PM »

So you mount the wheels on by detaching the motor axles?

System32 · « **Reply #361 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:30:16 PM »

Your fear of chassis space has resulted in a bot with wasted weight.

Use a circluar one and it'll be more effective.

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #362 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:41:15 PM »

Quote from: System32 on January 11, 2010, 05:30:16 PM

Your fear of chassis space has resulted in a bot with wasted weight.

Use a circluar one and it'll be more effective.

... because the total circumference of used metal is bigger if you stretch out the current chassis versus a circular. Because the weight is based on the material, not the volume of possible content.

System you are pretty smart... you really should change your AV back to that Futurama character... he looked a lot smarter that that dude staring at the camera that looks doped out. :P

System32 · « **Reply #363 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:53:37 PM »

That doped out guy is me...

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #364 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:59:27 PM »

Quote from: System32 on January 11, 2010, 05:53:37 PM

That doped out guy is me...

Heheheh, I figured as much. You look doped out. I am only being honest because I care. <3

123savethewhales · « **Reply #365 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Jack Daniels on January 11, 2010, 05:41:15 PM

Quote from: System32 on January 11, 2010, 05:30:16 PM
Your fear of chassis space has resulted in a bot with wasted weight.

Use a circluar one and it'll be more effective.

... because the total circumference of used metal is bigger if you stretch out the current chassis versus a circular. Because the weight is based on the material, not the volume of possible content.

System you are pretty smart... you really should change your AV back to that Futurama character... he looked a lot smarter that that dude staring at the camera that looks doped out. :P

I don't know, what's wrong with his current chassis anyway? It's not like the complexity created extra "hit box". Since HP is determined by chassis weight, if he want to trade HP for weight he can do so simply by lowering his chassis armor to titanium 3 or plastic 5.

Though I personally would use a 6 point star chassis.

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #366 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:06:13 PM »

I think the argument is that if he went with a circular chassis... the overall material usage to construct the chassis would result in a lower weight and thus he could use a higher armor class with that saved weight. But, by your estimates... it would break even anyways. I guess if you (not specifically YOU, but in general) wanted to be really picky and technical then the overall HP would have to be compared between the two theories. That would be hard to figure out.

Reier · « **Reply #367 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:15:29 PM »

123STW, how do you make those so even?

123savethewhales · « **Reply #368 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:20:37 PM »

Quote from: Reier on January 11, 2010, 06:15:29 PM

123STW, how do you make those so even?

I just eyeballed this one.

Let's not be too off topic, it is The Ounce's showcase after all.

Quote from: Jack Daniels link=topic=1988.msg93385#msg93385date=1263254773

I guess if you (not specifically YOU, but in general)wanted to be really picky and technical then the overall HP would have to be compared between the two theories. That would be hard to figure out.

The Ounce is using titanium 5 atm, which has 60 HP/kg,the best ratio in the game. If he makes another chassis that has the same kg but with, say plastic 10 or steel 5, then he will end up with less HP.

The Ounce · « **Reply #369 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:43:41 PM »

I wanted to use a star-shaped chassis, but I had no luck. I could try again with this example, though.

Thanks savethewhales!

LiNcK · « **Reply #370 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:53:35 PM »

Quote from: The Ounce on January 11, 2010, 06:43:41 PM

I wanted to use a star-shaped chassis, but I had no luck. I could try again with this example, though.

Thanks savethewhales!

Dont thank him, Just do a good deed for the whales :)

The Ounce · « **Reply #371 on:** January 24, 2010, 12:51:43 PM »

I felt like making a flipper with those Firestorm plates:

NPCFs, 12 ants, 1mm titanium.

Too bad I couldn't not make it look like Vertical Impulse

Gets under most if not all of the NAR AI v2.2 MWs...

:O

Too bad I couldn't replicate it, but enough with the wedges. Let's try something different:

Volcanic Upbringing:
Normal NPCs
4 ants
5mm titanium
2 Perm 132s, 20 lightning spikes, 8 small BBs, 8 light DS teeth.

I wanted to rebuild it without a wedge; the old one's wedge sucked hard by NAR AI v1 standards.

Pretty much took the chassis of a bot that I had already built and then built something inspired by pretty much every single VS that 123STW has made.

Built to be nothing more than an anti-wedge design, and it seems to do well, but...

That's it I'm declaring builder's block.

Sage · « **Reply #372 on:** January 24, 2010, 12:53:09 PM »

In DSL there's always gonna be a bot that beats yours. Just gotta roll with it.

The Ounce · « **Reply #373 on:** January 24, 2010, 12:54:10 PM »

I know, but the point is that I'm kinda out of ideas right now.

Urjak · « **Reply #374 on:** January 24, 2010, 12:59:06 PM »

Quote from: The Ounce on January 24, 2010, 12:54:10 PM

I know, but the point is that I'm kinda out of ideas right now.

Join the club. I've been out of ideas for quite a while now. It sucks...

As far as your bot goes, looks good. I like how you were unconventional and used firestorm flippers. I hope your using small JXRs.

System32 · « **Reply #375 on:** January 24, 2010, 01:04:53 PM »

I switch to stock and DSL repeatedly. The downside is I have to learn everything again(Chassis sizes, Realistic rule...), so my bots constantly suck, get better, then suck again..

123savethewhales · « **Reply #376 on:** January 24, 2010, 08:29:06 PM »

It actually looks more like my purple dinosaur than my VS.

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2349.msg77405.html#msg77405

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #377 on:** January 24, 2010, 08:50:14 PM »

Need inspiration UrJee and Ounce?

I have an idea... but I wont be able to execute it tonight. I will keep you posted over the next day or so.

Urjak · « **Reply #378 on:** January 24, 2010, 08:54:22 PM »

Yes! Ideas are always good!

The Ounce · « **Reply #379 on:** January 24, 2010, 09:00:16 PM »

Well TBH I'm not completely out of ideas, but the few ideas that I have now are rebuilding bots that I had made during the first 1-2 months that I had been playing DSL (about 2-3 months before I registered on GTM).

I would still like to see your ideas JD. :D