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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #300 on: December 12, 2009, 10:08:01 PM »
Click's Epic Showdown arena would be awesome for this :mrgreen:

For the record, Firebeetle did most of the work on that arena.  I made the code for the lightning, the sound effects, the torches, and the damaging zone on the edges of the pillars, but the vast majority of the modeling and skinning was FB.



Oh, and that juggler also looks very cool.  I like how it's all boxy and armored like a tank.

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #301 on: December 13, 2009, 03:35:11 PM »
Thanks!  Almost 100% of the time I want my bots to focus on defense, either with lots of armor, or high weapon durability, sometimes both.

I kinda need some help right now, though:

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Usual characteristics of my HWs, 14 ant batteries, 2 small JXs, 10 razors.

I bet you can't guess what this bot is related to! :P

I wanted to make it as realistic as possible, and the exposed JXs don't hinder its effectiveness (although their cube-shaped collision meshes can be annoying at times).

Obviously, it's unfinished, but I can't think of what to do with the remaining 150 kgs :( .
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #302 on: December 13, 2009, 03:57:00 PM »
Upgrade the armour?
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #303 on: December 13, 2009, 04:33:42 PM »
Definitely more armor.

I bet you can't guess what this bot is related to! :P

Faaip de Oiad ? (or whatever that dumb name is)

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #304 on: December 13, 2009, 04:35:23 PM »
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #305 on: December 13, 2009, 04:37:18 PM »
You're both wrong.
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #306 on: December 13, 2009, 04:37:54 PM »
I was going to say HnM 4 but then i saw the JX's and the middle gap in the armor so...

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #307 on: December 13, 2009, 04:45:58 PM »
Well, the idea came from the WRL version of ObZen, but now that I think about it, it DOES look more like Faaip de Oiad.
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #308 on: December 13, 2009, 04:55:43 PM »
Those motors are exposed and the bot is wwwwwwaaaaaayyyyyy overpowered. 6 ants would be enough.

What chassis armor?

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #309 on: December 13, 2009, 04:58:22 PM »
Those motors are exposed and the bot is wwwwwwaaaaaayyyyyy overpowered. 6 ants would be enough.

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #310 on: December 13, 2009, 05:01:43 PM »
and the bot is wwwwwwaaaaaayyyyyy overpowered. 6 ants would be enough.

I suggest you go and take another look at Click's battery thread.

14 ants is overpowered - 10 ants are theorically fine here but you can add more if the batteries drain out too fast.

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #311 on: December 13, 2009, 05:04:19 PM »
10 ants is enough to power the two JXs, but what about the drive motors?  :P

And JXs have 8000 HP, so they're not too exposed.
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #312 on: December 13, 2009, 05:10:11 PM »
Well, when experimenting with burst motors, i managed to make a Beta burst work at full power and speed with 160 amps - so you can underpower burst motors, and you need 1 ant for each NPC, so 10 ants roughly, maybe 11.

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #313 on: December 13, 2009, 05:12:27 PM »
You know those are NPC fasts, right?

Anyway, I think I'll go try your suggestion, but it will probably leave me with even more weight to work with.
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #314 on: December 13, 2009, 05:16:17 PM »
You know those are NPC fasts, right?

You know that ANY spin motor can be fully powered by only 1 ant, right ?

(Electotal is another thing though)

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #315 on: December 13, 2009, 05:17:24 PM »
Since when did drive motors count as spin motors? :S
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #316 on: December 13, 2009, 05:25:45 PM »
Maybe because they ARE spin motors...

Ever wondered why most of the modern LW rammers/SnS use two ants ?

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #317 on: December 13, 2009, 05:28:45 PM »
I see now.  The thing is, when Click made that thread, his examples focused mostly on stock, where spin motors can be used as drive motors and vice versa.  So even though I understood the thesis he proposed, I was still confused on how it applied to DSL.

Edit:  Oh wait!  When he said spin motors, I thought he was talking about weapon motors.  -_-'
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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #318 on: December 14, 2009, 08:09:26 AM »
Faaip de Oiad ? (or whatever that dumb name is)

could always quote LRA2 "fap oh dad" :P

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Re: The DSL Showcase of The Ounce, to Learn
« Reply #319 on: December 14, 2009, 08:12:27 AM »
could always quote LRA2 "fap oh dad" :P

Gah!

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You just HAD to remind me of that. XD




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