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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #360 on: December 26, 2010, 02:03:07 PM »
The HS doesn't look so good. The others look great, especially the DVS. :}
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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #361 on: December 26, 2010, 02:10:02 PM »
*mumble* TBH the HS was made quickly and I then gave up on it...

Anyway, glad people aprove of the DVS, which is good because it it the one I entered.
I have a question though, I had an alternate version that I accidently deleted with slightly weaker armour but 6 small DS teeth instead of the razorz.
Statistically atleast, which is better?

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #362 on: December 26, 2010, 03:30:37 PM »
Well, 1000 hp per razor, so 8000 hp of weapons there

6 teeth on each hex? Thats 3000 hp each..so 6000hp of weapons.

And the razors have longer reach, better for hitting wedged bots underneath you. And better armour.

I think the razors would be better..Well, thats what i think anyways. (Of course not taking fracture and other stuff into account) :P

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #363 on: December 26, 2010, 03:42:50 PM »
Hmm, yes, but ofcourse (as you said) fracture could tip the balance.
And In the other version, the height clearance of the DS teeth was no problem as I lowered them so they were pretty much spot on the same length wise.
I'm just desperate to give it that extra push, it beats the vast majority of LW Nar AI bots (It lost twice to rammer1, once to minifridge (but beat it second time around) and once more against another shell spinner that I can't remember the name of, and a well armoured SnS which i'm sorry to say i've also forgot the name of  :() but it still looses, I feel if I just upgrade the weaponry slightly it could beat those Sheck spinners at the very least (as both times it was JUST outweaponed).

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #364 on: December 26, 2010, 03:43:03 PM »

6 teeth on each hex? Thats 3000 hp each..so 6000hp of weapons.


Your math is a bit off there. Small DSL teeth have 700 HP each, so six would be 4200, for a grand total of 8400 HP.
Any comments would be appreciated. :D

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #365 on: December 26, 2010, 04:26:45 PM »

6 teeth on each hex? Thats 3000 hp each..so 6000hp of weapons.


Your math is a bit off there. Small DSL teeth have 700 HP each, so six would be 4200, for a grand total of 8400 HP.

Gah, must have mixed it up with another component. Thanks xD

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #366 on: December 26, 2010, 04:37:58 PM »
I hate to burst your bubble Scorpion, but the dual VS isn't realistic.  Also, the HS and TS don't need such powerful weapon motors.
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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #367 on: December 26, 2010, 05:40:28 PM »
I hate to burst your bubble Scorpion, but the dual VS isn't realistic.  Also, the HS and TS don't need such powerful weapon motors.
The HS and TS (tilted spinner I presume?) were more experiments that didn't really work.
I gave up on making a TS altogether, but I had a better HS that I was building, but TBH I believe i've lost it.

And with the realism, JB has accepted it, and IRL it wouldn't be hard to fit the bottom half of the to the chassis.
Although, I might try and angle the side parts out a bit more now, so thanks for accidentally helping me there :P

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #368 on: December 26, 2010, 08:50:14 PM »
People seem to be pushing the boundaries of realism and cubicness for CCIV. I'll have to admit I'm a bit guilty of that, albeit because I wasn't paying attention properly. I do think that the razors might be a bit better, depends on what the armours were while you were building. If it goes from Tite 3 to Plastic 5, then use the DS Teeth. If it goes from Plastic 5 to Plastic 3, then I'd probably suggest the razors.
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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #369 on: December 26, 2010, 09:01:00 PM »
That dual mag wedged spinner is called an angled spinner. And a fail design overall. Seriously, you gonna get flanked.

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #370 on: December 26, 2010, 09:29:33 PM »
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I completely missed that the first time 0_0

must have been up late approving, sorry Scopion but you have to change those front skirts or the weapons... there is nothing attached else where that it could be attached to IRL

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #371 on: December 26, 2010, 09:59:45 PM »
I like the HS with the E-tek.  Completely and utterly overkill, but awesome because of that.


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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #372 on: December 26, 2010, 10:06:22 PM »
TS (tilted spinner I presume?)

TS = top spinner, but like Naryar said, it's more like an angled HS.

Simple solution to the realism problem: Use separate multi-extenders to attach the weapons and stabilizers, place the MEs holding the stabilizers as low as possible, and use shorter weapons if needed (I prefer small DS teeth).
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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #373 on: December 27, 2010, 04:02:44 AM »
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I completely missed that the first time 0_0

must have been up late approving, sorry Scopion but you have to change those front skirts or the weapons... there is nothing attached else where that it could be attached to IRL
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Fine, I'll fix it, although I'll probably just angle out the sheets more  so the razorz don't cut right through them so I don't have to spend any more weight on them.
TBH I didn't realise untill ounce brought it up  :(
Anyway, would that count as my final update?

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #374 on: December 28, 2010, 06:09:45 AM »
who locked this?

I cant see any reason for it to be so *unlocks*

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #375 on: December 28, 2010, 06:16:44 AM »
Nary locked it, see the Scorp vs GF93 thread.
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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #376 on: December 28, 2010, 08:53:07 AM »
I locked it because scorpion was bad :evilsmile:

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #377 on: January 03, 2011, 03:42:07 PM »
The AGODs symmetrical though, isn't it? Shouldnt be too much of a problem. Unless it actually isn't. Then, no idea. :P

I hope theres stabilisers on that :P

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #378 on: January 03, 2011, 03:56:33 PM »
I wouldn't know about the mobility TBH, but surely the bot's weapons screwed up anyway because of having this?

And yes, ofcourse the finished one's gonna have stabilizers, what do you take me for :P

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Re: Scorpions Showcase
« Reply #379 on: January 03, 2011, 04:07:51 PM »
And yes, ofcourse the finished one's gonna have stabilizers, what do you take me for :P

Well, put stabilisers on it, and see how it goes. :P