Author Topic: Scorpions Totally EEEEVIL Showcase (Read 87177 times)

NFX · « **Reply #220 on:** November 19, 2010, 05:28:50 PM »

I suspect the extender work could be a bit cleaner. And I wonder about the Rage-III-ness of NPC Fasts on a LW. Crab Salad 2 was notoriously jumpy. Not too bad, though, fairly decent cube rammer.

Scorpion · « **Reply #221 on:** November 19, 2010, 05:33:22 PM »

Rage-III-ness?
Erm yeah, it is rather jumpy, that's part of the reason behind the slightly odd extender work at the back.
Raises the wheels up a bit so it runs inverted better.

MassimoV · « **Reply #222 on:** November 19, 2010, 07:16:19 PM »

https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Rage_III
Learn it. Live it. Like it.
But that's as unstable as Bohrium.

Scorpion · « **Reply #223 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:11:07 AM »

My game stopped crashing long enoug for me to see that it did have waaay too much power.
So here's a rebuild.

titanium 1 and weighs 248.9 IIRC

Vertigo · « **Reply #224 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:21:44 AM »

Scrap DS teeth, use razors,some will disagree, but IMO they have too little hitpoints
C'mon, tornado wheels? Use vlads if you have to, preferably hypnos
Every bot with a metal hinge will slide straightunder that, so either get a metal hinge, or scrap the wedge completely

Scorpion · « **Reply #225 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:30:09 AM »

Quote from: Vertigo on November 20, 2010, 03:21:44 AM

Scrap DS teeth, use razors,some will disagree, but IMO they have too little hitpoints
C'mon, tornado wheels? Use vlads if you have to, preferably hypnos
Every bot with a metal hinge will slide straightunder that, so either get a metal hinge, or scrap the wedge completely

They have little HP yes, but i'd rather have more light ds teeth than just a few razors for a LW rammer IMO.
Hypnos and vlads are going to leave it unable to be invertable, plus IIRC tornados are very similair to vlads, infact on the wiki it says they are tougher which helps for this.
And how many bots are really using metal hinges in CC4 anyway?
From what i've seen not many.

Vertigo · « **Reply #226 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:37:00 AM »

Oh, never noticed that it was a cube :P
Probably quite a few will use a metalhinge actually

Scorpion · « **Reply #227 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:41:38 AM »

Alright, I've downgraded the armour to plastic 1 and added the metal hinge with a aluminium skirt

Vertigo · « **Reply #228 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:45:24 AM »

use plastic skirt
possibly move motors up one notch & see if vlads work then
upgrade armour
if you have to, remove some spikes
I still think you should change to razors

Scorpion · « **Reply #229 on:** November 20, 2010, 03:57:59 AM »

Here ya go

Turns out there was a light ds teeth placed on one of the extenders at the back by accident, so I got rid of that and changed the extenders a bit too use vlads AND save a bit more weight.
It's now got titanium3 armour aswell

Vertigo · « **Reply #230 on:** November 20, 2010, 04:05:31 AM »

MUCH better

Now go try that against NAR AI :P

Hows that HW spinner coming along BTW?

Scorpion · « **Reply #231 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:06:16 AM »

Hmm, must download Nar AI actually

And if you're talking about RATC, I was building a hammer bot.
The first one I built was really bad (I didn't even look at any other hammer bots if i'm honest

), the second one though seems to me to be a lot better though, although somebody still found lots of things wrong with it

Vertigo · « **Reply #232 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:10:50 AM »

sorry, yeah you are building a hammer
mixed you up with somebody, usernames look the same :D

Naryar · « **Reply #233 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:12:05 AM »

Looks OK, though these are 400 HP only motors.

Scorpion · « **Reply #234 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:33:31 AM »

Yeah, not really much I can do about that weakness because of the weight limit.
Unless I used piglets as drive

Pwnator · « **Reply #235 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:35:03 AM »

Quote from: Scorpion on November 20, 2010, 06:33:31 AM

Yeah, not really much I can do about that weakness because of the weight limit.

Use NPCs and mount them internally.

Scorpion · « **Reply #236 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:40:25 AM »

Surely i'd have to make the chasis bigger AND downgrade the weaponry for that.
Plus, I tryed externally mounted npc fasts before with this design and switched to mags because it was too fast.
Are you sure it's worth that?

Pwnator · « **Reply #237 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:45:26 AM »

Oh, crap. I forgot that you're entering this into CC4.

There are still better setups so you can get more weapons, though. You could have lighter extender work and swapping the teeth for razors (so you only need one rack instead of two) and it can be invertible with hypnos.

Naryar · « **Reply #238 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:47:03 AM »

NPCs > Mags any day. Try it with NPC- Rubber wheel drive.

Scorpion · « **Reply #239 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:53:34 AM »

Hmmm, from what you two are saying then this version seems to be better?

Shall I just load this one back up, shrink the chassis a bit, add a metal hinge wedge and then stick on hypnos?