Robot Arena 3

[Scorpion]

I'm not nearly as worried as some of you guys seem to be. Although I doubt it's likely that the old components are a sign that the new game will be somewhat backwards compatible, I think its just no surprise or worry that they would still be finishing off modelling/collision mapping on the new components that we've seen a glimpse of in the concept art. At any rate, the devs are clearly paying attention to or are involved in this community, so hopefully the game will be mod-able as I think that's probably the most important thing a RA2 sequel should have.
One thing I will say though is that the release date is actually a little disappointing, its too close lol. Seriously, I think this could be really great, but maybe even better if they did take more time with it, I mean we've been waiting 13 years and I doubt anybody even expected an RA3 at this point anyway.

[Connor791]

From what i have seen it looks miles better than RA2 and It will be  modable as it says that they are going be to be using the workshop on steam 

[RedSawn]

Well I hope they have heavier components then the RA2 stock ones anyway (, more is always better, more motor options, alternative brands with empathsis on more power or less drain, something better then the DDT for heavyweights), or at least not nearly as much weight available to a heavyweight, just so IRL is encouraged rather then 36 mace spinners. I guess we can be sure DSA won't be a thing anymore so chassis armour will become a factor and might help that

[Gauche Suede]

Well I hope they have heavier components then the RA2 stock ones anyway (, more is always better, more motor options, alternative brands with empathsis on more power or less drain, something better then the DDT for heavyweights), or at least not nearly as much weight available to a heavyweight, just so IRL is encouraged rather then 36 mace spinners. I guess we can be sure DSA won't be a thing anymore so chassis armour will become a factor and might help that

Well if they bother to include proper damage calculations this time then IRL would be the only effective way to build since 36-mace spinners (and popups) rely on the fact that RA2 doesn't consider mass on it's damage calculations.

[ecolusian]

pumped to actually be able to drive a bot in a tournament, that's like half the fun for me

this is why i dont do tournaments

Can you elaborate on this

I don't do tournaments because for me a big part of a competitive event is the sportsmanship behind it and all the moments were they make it in time and its tense AF.what I mean is that the best moments in robotic combat (at least for me) is the moment when the underdog comes out and wins or someone just enters a lolbot and actually does good and everyone around you is like "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!?!" then you just end up laughing your ass off because their right how the hell did a red grinning armchair beat the series 6 champion. With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

[The Red Blur]

pumped to actually be able to drive a bot in a tournament, that's like half the fun for me

this is why i dont do tournaments

Can you elaborate on this

I don't do tournaments because for me a big part of a competitive event is the sportsmanship behind it and all the moments were they make it in time and its tense AF.what I mean is that the best moments in robotic combat (at least for me) is the moment when the underdog comes out and wins or someone just enters a lolbot and actually does good and everyone around you is like "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!?!" then you just end up laughing your ass off because their right how the hell did a red grinning armchair beat the series 6 champion. With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

Exactly how I feel about bot-building. Yes, I have entered a tournament, but I don't plan to win, I plan to have fun making the bot, and that's it.

EDIT: also, I love this line.

fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party.

[yugitom]

With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

You see, whenever there is an established meta in something, fun can still be had. You play Yugioh, right? When some guy came 3rd (or something like that) in the World Champs using Mystic Tomato, everyone went crazy and started copying his 'innovative' idea. If you try to break the meta by doing something unorthodox, you can have some fun. However, RA2's steep learning curve and over 10 years of testing bot designs may make this difficult.

And when I say 'innovative', it doesn't mean something that hasn't been done before, just something that isn't a 'joke bot' and has been executed in a way that makes it successful, more so than previous iterations of that bot type. Variety will only come if you attempt to instigate it somehow, either by doing what I just said or hosting a tournament yourself in which people won't want to/can't use 'meta' bot types.

[Thrackerzod]

Personally, I really like the AI tournaments, because:
1. If I was driving my bot and lost, I'd have to blame myself.  With AI tournaments, though, I can just blame the crappy AI and not feel bad.
2. There's no issues with finding times for the matches or anything like that.

Not that I wouldn't try a "drive your own bot" tournament, though.  I just think there are some benefits to the current system.

[090901]

pumped to actually be able to drive a bot in a tournament, that's like half the fun for me

this is why i dont do tournaments

Can you elaborate on this

I don't do tournaments because for me a big part of a competitive event is the sportsmanship behind it and all the moments were they make it in time and its tense AF.what I mean is that the best moments in robotic combat (at least for me) is the moment when the underdog comes out and wins or someone just enters a lolbot and actually does good and everyone around you is like "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!?!" then you just end up laughing your ass off because their right how the hell did a red grinning armchair beat the series 6 champion. With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

i think you need to git gud and stop making excuses

[Badger]

pumped to actually be able to drive a bot in a tournament, that's like half the fun for me

this is why i dont do tournaments

Can you elaborate on this

I don't do tournaments because for me a big part of a competitive event is the sportsmanship behind it and all the moments were they make it in time and its tense AF.what I mean is that the best moments in robotic combat (at least for me) is the moment when the underdog comes out and wins or someone just enters a lolbot and actually does good and everyone around you is like "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!?!" then you just end up laughing your ass off because their right how the hell did a red grinning armchair beat the series 6 champion. With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

i think you need to git gud and stop making excuses

+1

[ecolusian]

With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

You see, whenever there is an established meta in something, fun can still be had. You play Yugioh, right? When some guy came 3rd (or something like that) in the World Champs using Mystic Tomato, everyone went crazy and started copying his 'innovative' idea. If you try to break the meta by doing something unorthodox, you can have some fun. However, RA2's steep learning curve and over 10 years of testing bot designs may make this difficult.

And when I say 'innovative', it doesn't mean something that hasn't been done before, just something that isn't a 'joke bot' and has been executed in a way that makes it successful, more so than previous iterations of that bot type. Variety will only come if you attempt to instigate it somehow, either by doing what I just said or hosting a tournament yourself in which people won't want to/can't use 'meta' bot types.

theres a similar issue in yugioh, just replace razors with kosmos, and its not that every bot should be different im alright with there being a soild enough meta for tips and tricks but not to the point where its your only opportunity for any tournament success.

Personally, I really like the AI tournaments, because:
1. If I was driving my bot and lost, I'd have to blame myself.  With AI tournaments, though, I can just blame the crappy AI and not feel bad.
2. There's no issues with finding times for the matches or anything like that.

Not that I wouldn't try a "drive your own bot" tournament, though.  I just think there are some benefits to the current system.

i will admit that no issues with finding times is incredibly useful and timesaving, expecially given the timezone gap (also blaming the computer feels pretty gud.)

pumped to actually be able to drive a bot in a tournament, that's like half the fun for me

this is why i dont do tournaments

Can you elaborate on this

I don't do tournaments because for me a big part of a competitive event is the sportsmanship behind it and all the moments were they make it in time and its tense AF.what I mean is that the best moments in robotic combat (at least for me) is the moment when the underdog comes out and wins or someone just enters a lolbot and actually does good and everyone around you is like "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!?!" then you just end up laughing your ass off because their right how the hell did a red grinning armchair beat the series 6 champion. With ai tournaments they just rush each other at every opportunity with no variation. its that bad that I think its affected the meta as rather then make interesting and fun design, all that's gets made is bots with more razors slammed onto a tribars and razors under the bot that fly out of nowhere then ***** in a bukkake party. its really getting out of hand. so that's why I don't tournament, im the kinda guy who doesn't like following meta since I like variety and interesting concepts rather than bot shop clusterfocks.

i think you need to git gud and stop making excuses

i play fighting games, so im completely open to this as well, but did you have to say it like such an ass or is this just how 090101 works?

[yugitom]

And with that massive quote wall + possible flame bait from that last statement, I'm gonna ask we get back on topic and, if we talk about tournaments here, it'll be about RA3 tournaments.

[ecolusian]

And with that massive quote wall + possible flame bait from that last statement, I'm gonna ask we get back on topic and, if we talk about tournaments here, it'll be about RA3 tournaments.

it wasnt flame bait, im sorry if it came off that way.

[Naryar]

it's not like you were borderline insulting some builder's work in that wall of text, so no, you have no right to call 090901's words harsh.

but yes let's stop this.

[Merrick]

On a different note, I feel sorry for Click. All the work he put into DSL 2.2 may only have a 5-6 month shelf if RA3 takes over completely.

[Reier]

its not like you have to choose between ra2 and ra3 guys

[Badnik96]

i'm excited for ra3 tournaments because if the online is any good at all we can have things similar to the gmod tournaments we already run and that would be amazing.

[Kossokei]

Nah, I don't think RA3 will take over completely. That's like DSL taking over stock completely- there are less of the latter playing, but it's still played.

Here's a question- people are talking about mod support, but who is here to modify it? I don't mean to be rude, or blunt, or ignorant, but the team that built DSL isn't all that active anymore, 2.2 is mostly Click and I'm not sure where he stands on making yet another TC in an entirely different game, 123stw was behind Ironforge and he's not all that active anymore, and I don't know where any of the RWRA2 team stands on making a TC in the style of DSL instead of the style that RWRA2 is.

I don't know how many folks will come crawling out of the GTM woodworks to wiggle their fingers inside of RA3 when it comes, however, so I could be wrong about some of those.

[cephalopod]

I don't know where any of the RWRA2 team stands on making a TC in the style of DSL instead of the style that RWRA2 is.

Can't talk for HB but I doubt I'll have enough time or interest to commit to a big project again honestly

[Kossokei]

I don't know where any of the RWRA2 team stands on making a TC in the style of DSL instead of the style that RWRA2 is.

Can't talk for HB but I doubt I'll have enough time or interest to commit to a big project again honestly

That's exactly what I mean. I can imagine some have tired themselves out in full giving the most that they can to the community.

Maybe some new people will join, fresh in energy, raring to get their hands dirty making another big project, alongside the potential older members that are drawn back in for the same reason.