One wheeled bots, should they be banned?

[Sparkey98]

I would do it, but I'm afraid someone would touch my stuff.

[Mecha]

I voted yes. because they are funny and don't you want a weird bot here and there?

[Vertigo]

I don't like them, so yes, I think they should banned

Thats just my personal oppinion though

[madman3]

I think that they are just dumb excuses to stick 18 weapons on MW. Though people claim it's original, it just seems as though they want to overload bots with weapons.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I never claimed originality nor being "fair" but people allow crawlers and these have NO wheels. Yes you can restrict their use in tourneys but just like other bots they have exploitable weaknesses (i.e. Lack of mobility) so can be beaten by the right bots. As Kill said. It's down to the host.

[Scorpion]

Yep, in the end this is just going to be another thing for tourney hosts to put in the rules.

[Virus Bomb]

I think that they are just dumb excuses to stick 18 weapons on MW. Though people claim it's original, it just seems as though they want to overload bots with weapons.

people were putting 18 weapons on mws way before the one wheeled stuff.

Heres my bot for Unkowns tournament. You might want to join it Naryar. It hasnt started yet.
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[NFX]

I think that they are just dumb excuses to stick 18 weapons on MW. Though people claim it's original, it just seems as though they want to overload bots with weapons.

people were putting 18 weapons on mws way before the one wheeled stuff.

Sage managed it with his rebuild of Tornado, but it was lacking in defense a little bit.

[G.K.]

I just realised I voted No instead of yes on the poll, as I didn't read the poll q, assuming it would be the same as the title.

[madman3]

I think that they are just dumb excuses to stick 18 weapons on MW. Though people claim it's original, it just seems as though they want to overload bots with weapons.

people were putting 18 weapons on mws way before the one wheeled stuff.

Sage managed it with his rebuild of Tornado, but it was lacking in defense a little bit.

Ehh, I never really build HS so I know very little about them.

[JoeBlo]

While one wheel can be noted IRL as immobile (as someone said)

Dont forget RA2's immobile handler attempts (and unless you have sucky drive, succeeds) in keeping a one wheel robot mobile.

It also means that theoretically a 1 wheel robot is at a disadvantage from the start.

[123savethewhales]

And now here we are trying to ban something that isn't causing problems.

Look at tournaments and tell me how often WEDGES win because pretty much every tournament is hosted in open arenas.  1 wheel drive SnS is just asking to get OOTAed.  Only S benefit from it because the torque counteracts the drive so it can move forward consistently.

Seen in close arena it's a whole other story.

[JoeBlo]

And now here we are trying to ban something that isn't causing problems.

The wedge guys are running scared :P

[Sage]

Here, how about this: If we can adjust the AI.py of every other robot so that it drives fine once it loses a wheel (i.e. switches to melty brain) then I have no problem with one-wheeled robots.

[JoeBlo]

nothing is stopping you doing that Sage

[Sage]

Except my un-knowledge.

[123savethewhales]

Like I said, only shell has the "counter torque" to make that happen.  One wheel flail SnS must spin to move forward and are horrible at getting to target.  They get themselves stuck to corners half the time.

So why should "wedge" be able to drive fine when single wheel SnS don't drive fine to begin with?

For shell, the only one that actually drives fine with one wheel, they can also be driven manually.  You move forward by driving against the weapon, and turn by driving with the weapon.  Determining which way is forward is the only hard part, but you can solve that too by using first person view.

[JoeBlo]

For shell, the only one that actually drives fine with one wheel, they can also be driven manually.  You move forward by driving against the weapon, and turn by driving with the weapon.  Determining which way is forward is the only hard part, but you can solve that too by using first person view.

Thats what I do..

Though I mark the chassis or have a half sheet poking out, etc to work out the front as I dont like FP view..

Its a fun challenge to drive..

I have idea's about driving the static ones too.. but the Spinner ones are easy..

[123savethewhales]

Even if Static single wheel can be driven manually in theory, it will probably be significantly worst then AI.  Single wheel shell by contrast are actually not that hard to drive manually if you can get used to FP view.  In fact I find them easier to drive than dual wheel ones because they can move forward far more consistently.  So this whole "AI exploit" argument just doesn't hold.

[JoeBlo]

The biggest thing is you can set analog values in the PY..

If you got a Joystick or controller you could drive one no problem with some practice...

So this whole "AI exploit" argument just doesn't hold.

Yep, case closed thanks for reading everyone