New Glitch - Hax Mode

[Meganerdbomb]

Screw that. Just release it. The only reason I don't build stock anymore is I hate spending an hour just trying to stack two black batteries.

[ACAMS]

I could use technically this glitch for August BOTM! Too bad no one would vote for me xD

No, because I would call it AAM/BFE and kick your butt for not showing me the little trick!

[Vertigo]

Grr, just spent a while experimenting, and the closest I got was smartzone leverage, that's pretty cool tho'

[Sage]

I could use technically this glitch for August BOTM! Too bad no one would vote for me xD

No, because I would call it AAM/BFE and kick your butt for not showing me the little trick!

But it's not either!

[Vertigo]

I could use technically this glitch for August BOTM! Too bad no one would vote for me xD

No, because I would call it AAM/BFE and kick your butt for not showing me the little trick!

But it's not either!

So what?

It's even more cheep any annoying than BFE & AAM because we don't know how to do it!
Even still, I agree with not releasing the trick

[Scorpion]

I agree, DON'T release it guys, it would be the death of stock.
Interesting or new stacks would be branded as hax too easily, and everybody would lose interest, I mean imagine how much easier it would be to build if nothing collided with anything else in stock! Making a top bot would be too easy for anybody to care.
In the end Stock would probably have to become "realistic" in order to remain somewhat popular, although, even then, why not just play DSL instead at that point...

If you don't release this glitch, stock will continue as it is popularity wise fro a bit longer, atleast untill somebody else figures out how to do it...

[JoeBlo]

But it's not either!

that is exactly the problem

From a rule standpoint your just using the same results as BFE but its claimed to be a glitch..

There isnt proof about it being legit

If it is legit then you cannot outlaw it without outlawing baseplate Stacking all together..

Unless you want everyone to upload a video filming them making the robot..

[RpJk]

Don't release it otherwise stock popularity would decline within probably about a year. And to be honest it would effect everyone by a good bit and the robot building will become so easy even for beginners. Then probably a good amount of people would leave such as me and this forum would become DSL only forum for about two years and then it would be dead forever. RA2 will become a fully pledged `thing of the past`so release it and RA2 will be in its grave in about two years.
So if this forum wants to live for another 5 years then don't say anything about that glitch.

Too over dramatic?

[Scorpion]

Too over dramatic?

Yes, although some parts aren't far off.

[123savethewhales]

And, why can't we outlaw it exactly?  Why can't people just get together and say, hey we don't like this BS, let's not do it or allow it in tournaments.

Sure if you trying to be all technical you are not going to find all the logical rules that distinguish this from other forms of stacking.  But hey nobody has been able to write an algorithm that can distinguish a cat from a dog either, that doesn't stop us from telling them apart.  This is when the human intuition comes into play.  Just assume something that looks improbable fake/cheating until proven otherwise.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I agree with 123 and JB, we cannot distinguish between BFE and Hax mode, in fact we cannot really tell the difference between a lucky stack and minor use of this glitch. There is no way to draw the line. We must simply use common sense.

The Trov glitch came and went... But it was resurface pretty recently and now quite a few bots are using it.

That would be me 

[Pwnator]

That would be me 

Actually, that would be Sage. :P

[Squirrel_Monkey]

That would be me 

Actually, that would be Sage. :P

You should see the number of bots I've made using the Trov glitch.

[JoeBlo]

And, why can't we outlaw it exactly?

I will put money on it that we cant reach a unanimous decision :P

But lets put it to a poll and see..

[NFX]

We could put it to a poll and see what we could do.

I still don't see why it shouldn't be released and regulated, in the same way as the Realistic rule in DSL is. If we treat the Superstacking glitch the same way as we treat BFE and AAM, then people will still build in the same way as they have been, with Snapper Loading, eFFeing, things like that. It won't kill off Stock, unless people actually TRY to kill it off.

[ty4er]

Gets rid of creativity pretty much.
And it means that noobs can create bots that are equal to vets and such :o

But i don't do much stock so idk

[Scorpion]

We could put it to a poll and see what we could do.

I still don't see why it shouldn't be released and regulated, in the same way as the Realistic rule in DSL is. If we treat the Superstacking glitch the same way as we treat BFE and AAM, then people will still build in the same way as they have been, with Snapper Loading, eFFeing, things like that. It won't kill off Stock, unless people actually TRY to kill it off.

That's the thing though, there is no way to tell what is hax glitched and what has just been normally stacked!

[russian roulette]

Don't release it otherwise stock popularity would decline within probably about a year. And to be honest it would effect everyone by a good bit and the robot building will become so easy even for beginners. Then probably a good amount of people would leave such as me and this forum would become DSL only forum for about two years and then it would be dead forever. RA2 will become a fully pledged `thing of the past`so release it and RA2 will be in its grave in about two years.
So if this forum wants to live for another 5 years then don't say anything about that glitch.

Too over dramatic?

Honestly, I think that this would HELP stock. If you'd look at BBEANS 5, if Click pitted a n00b robot against a 36 Mace HS or Siesm 16 (and many others) then the battle would last only one of two seconds. Whats the fun in that? Imagine stock where matches actually end with WBP and a bunch of debates and harder predictions like DSL, Stock tournaments would become insanely popular and they would also become alot harder to win (thus, one small little thing can cost you a victory). Also if everyone is just going to make 36 Mace HS's you can just allow only the first person who turned one in or just ban the glitch all together.

[cephalopod]

Am I the only one thinking about this in ways other than 36HS? Flippers could have a few more bursts (and therefore power), as with popups. Those kinds of things could be seen winning more.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

And Caster armour would just be MENTAL.