Author Topic: Loss of Originality? (Read 5029 times)

Natef · « **on:** August 01, 2011, 07:44:05 PM »

I was reading some of inf's posts, and started thinking, "have we lost our originality?"

It seems that many bots I've seen (of each type) seem to all look really similar.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:49:55 PM »

Because originality is overrated.

Only reason to build new things is if it provides new utility.

GoldenFox93 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:50:30 PM »

Quote from: Natef on August 01, 2011, 07:44:05 PM

I was reading some of inf's posts, and started thinking, "have we lost our originality?"

It seems that many bots I've seen (of each type) seem to all look really similar.

Definitely a thought. The worst aspect of RA2 for me is sitting in a Robot Lab with about a million different components, and wondering what to do that hasn't been done a million times already.

NFX · « **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:51:08 PM »

I don't think so. It's just that as the game has progressed, more and more designs have been "found", so to speak, so the likelihood of finding a design that's different enough to be classed as original is slowly dwindling. But there are still designs out there.

infiniteinertia · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:52:10 PM »

No, we have more morons. And I've been gone a long time. I'm back now to change that so delete this retarded thread.

Natef · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:00:49 PM »

I mostly see this in stock (which I have given up on for the most part).

Somebody · « **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:58:33 PM »

Look at any design that someone else builds. If you have the ability to clone it, you have the ability to find something about it that you can improve. Like my Tag Team Tussle entry Thanatos combined the best parts (IMO) of DoA2 and Infection 4. And it did better than something totally original that I could have built in the lazy-person amount of time that I had. Originality doesn't have to be something completely new, just something different, that is an improvement.

madman3 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:50:12 AM »

Originality hasn't been lost. As Somebody said, the reason it's less obvious now is because it's become mixed enough with effectiveness.

People find new things in RA2 every now and then, and I even managed to accidentally create a new bot type just by playing around with some torque reaction crawlers in DSL. People like Joe, Sage and Scrap do their best to find new things.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2011, 11:01:51 AM »

Quote from: madman3 on August 02, 2011, 07:50:12 AM

People like Joe, Sage and Scrap do their best to find new things.

Its the only thing I do in this game after I figured out I just couldnt keep up with the tournament competition level.. :P

madman3 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2011, 11:49:20 AM »

Quote from: JoeBlo on August 02, 2011, 11:01:51 AM

Quote from: madman3 on August 02, 2011, 07:50:12 AM
People like Joe, Sage and Scrap do their best to find new things.

Its the only thing I do in this game after I figured out I just couldnt keep up with the tournament competition level.. :P

wakkydude · « **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2011, 07:06:01 AM »

I've been feeling that the game has too many DEATH SPINNERS and not enough bots using other weapons. It saddens me.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2011, 07:10:00 AM »

Thats why I liked BOTM.. originally wasn't killed off by the first generic spinner or popup..

That was until the Giraffe came along..

wakkydude · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2011, 07:16:24 AM »

Quote from: JoeBlo on August 03, 2011, 07:10:00 AM

Thats why I liked BOTM.. originally wasn't killed off by the first generic spinner or popup..

That was until the Giraffe came along..

I laughed when I saw him.

He's just epic.

retropiplup · « **Reply #13 on:** August 04, 2011, 04:15:11 AM »

im Not Original

ty4er · « **Reply #14 on:** August 04, 2011, 04:16:52 AM »

Meh, depends.

Usually i hope i am original but i haven't been lurking enough to know if it's a klone or whatever :D

nightcracker · « **Reply #15 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:10:43 AM »

Pretty much ever bot I posted in my showcase has been labeled "(somewhat) original" or "never seen it like that".

Maybe we should stare less at pictures from old bots and just create stuff?

wakkydude · « **Reply #16 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:31:15 PM »

Just building stuff that ISN'T a HS is original enough for me.

Thyrus · « **Reply #17 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:39:16 PM »

great that people seem to start thinking about stuff like this when a veteran return. I don`t know about you other guys but I don`t see something like the loss of originality. a reason for this could be that I mostly few the showcases of DSC, NFX, SD, 123 Click and JB.

Meganerdbomb · « **Reply #18 on:** August 04, 2011, 02:09:12 PM »

I feel the same. The more efficient the bots get, the more similar they become. It's just a natural side effect.

J · « **Reply #19 on:** August 04, 2011, 02:22:25 PM »

@Nerdbomb: Pretty much, considering if you want your bot to be "successful", its usually going to end up looking similar to something else. Like how Derp Patrol ended up being a weird Crazy Gadget.

Quote from: JoeBlo on August 03, 2011, 07:10:00 AM

That was until the Giraffe came along..

For the record, the Giraffe is somewhat of an homage to Venko.
Plus, it was the most original bot of that BOTM.