Ok I guess I miss read your post there. But going on it head on like this is not going to help his self esteem. To get people to start believing in them selfs again you need to build it up not tear it down. Yes the blunt way is fat.
Can't we just leave alone the so-called "emos" to sit in their own depression and chillax?
*Leaves (The thread, not GTM)*
Simple solution: Everyone shut up.
Quote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 12:45:13 PMOk I guess I miss read your post there. But going on it head on like this is not going to help his self esteem. To get people to start believing in them selfs again you need to build it up not tear it down. Yes the blunt way is fat.Not really. If you call him "big" you won't tear down his "I AM SPECIAL WHY PEOPLE HATE ME" mindset, and this is what you would need to do to succeed. If he actually is morbidly obese and it hurts his social interactions, the only way for him to change would be for him to realize that he NEEDS to change, ergo realize he's a fatso, not "big but my mommy says I'm special". Only then he will want to change instead of expect (subconsciously) other people to reassure him that nothing's wrong.
He does not strike me as the type to think like that. Yes if people with that mind set need to be "set straight" but for others you'll only make the problem worse if take that approach all the time. As you know every ones different so I try to base there thinking style (in this case how he posts.) and try to help accordingly.
There are just some thing that are the same in everyone.Even in this case, it's very simple to diagnose - if there wasn't anything wrong with him, he would not post on an internet forum expecting compassion, but instead focus on solving the problem.
If I'm reading this right, your telling me that if something was wrong he would not be posting here?
Also the way I see it, compassion can go a long way for some. Yes other take advantage of it and others see it as a way to get attention, but also it can help and show that at least some one has the patience to try and help.
Now for all I know you may be showing your way of that but right now from what I see of what you have posted to him on the issue, it was not helping him.
Quote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 01:08:05 PMIf I'm reading this right, your telling me that if something was wrong he would not be posting here?Exactly. Right now he is only trying to make us reassure him that his life sure does suck. And why would he want that?Quote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 01:08:05 PMAlso the way I see it, compassion can go a long way for some. Yes other take advantage of it and others see it as a way to get attention, but also it can help and show that at least some one has the patience to try and help.Compassion makes sense only if something really worth being sad about happened. Depends on the situation. Some time compassion is just listening to them and not biting there head off every time.Quote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 01:08:05 PMNow for all I know you may be showing your way of that but right now from what I see of what you have posted to him on the issue, it was not helping him.I may have been somewhat too harsh, but as Noodle said, I have had it with these MOTHER****ING THREADS on this MOTHER****ING FORUM. One, I agree you were a bit harsh there. Two, If you hate it so much then why not ignore it? Bugging them like this is only going to lead to more issues, surely you can see that.
Bump'd the topic eh?
Exactly. Right now he is only trying to make us reassure him that his life sure does suck. And why would he want that?
Compassion makes sense only if something really worth being sad about happened. Depends on the situation. Some time compassion is just listening to them and not biting there head off every time.
I may have been somewhat too harsh, but as Noodle said, I have had it with these MOTHER****ING THREADS on this MOTHER****ING FORUM. One, I agree you were a bit harsh there. Two, If you hate it so much then why not ignore it? Bugging them like this is only going to lead to more issues, surely you can see that.
Quote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 01:37:36 PMExactly. Right now he is only trying to make us reassure him that his life sure does suck. And why would he want that?Because that's what emo pussies want. They want everyone else to think "man, that guy has it hard" when in reality all they really think is "man, that guy needs to stfu". So we all assume he's emo and wants to feel bad. If that is the case he should get help and if he decided to do it here then let him. There's no need to feed it. Your only doing what he wants if thats the case.Quote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 01:37:36 PMCompassion makes sense only if something really worth being sad about happened. Depends on the situation. Some time compassion is just listening to them and not biting there head off every time.So what you're saying is that sometimes it's OK not to reprimand them even if they deserve it? Like I said depends on the situationQuote from: Little lost bot on December 10, 2010, 01:37:36 PMI may have been somewhat too harsh, but as Noodle said, I have had it with these MOTHER****ING THREADS on this MOTHER****ING FORUM. One, I agree you were a bit harsh there. Two, If you hate it so much then why not ignore it? Bugging them like this is only going to lead to more issues, surely you can see that. The reason he and other people are paying so much attention to it is because it's a bit difficult to ignore. It's like having a car with a valve tap (a tapping sound that you hear as the engine runs). Sure, you could ignore that, but it's always gonna be there reminding you of it's presence. Most people who have the time and money get a valve tap repaired just because it's so annoying.That's the mentality behind it. Why ignore the problem when we can go out and fix it? Yes I agree with you on the fix part. But "how" you fix it is also important. If your car is broken and you don't know squat on how to fix it you don't go trying to do so now do you. As for you engine metaphor, I fail to see how that work for here. There are lots of threads in unread and even if this is the only one there on the list your looking at there is no need to go in and cause trouble. I'm sure that if you made some thing and some one who thought it was not suppost to be here came and smashed that you would not be happy. Yes its not the focus yes you aren't meant to bring it but, you may have just wanted to show it. this thread is yes not meant to be here, true, but its not much different from bring toy to school. You want to show it to your friends. Again yes thats not the focus and yes they aren't meant to be there but you want to show it off. Thats all this thread is about. As for his other problems, I'll take that to pm's between me and him so that you can not have to look at then.
So we all assume he's emo and wants to feel bad. If that is the case he should get help and if he decided to do it here then let him. There's no need to feed it. Your only doing what he wants if thats the case.
Like I said depends on the situation
Yes I agree with you on the fix part. But "how" you fix it is also important. If your car is broken and you don't know squat on how to fix it you don't go trying to do so now do you. As for you engine metaphor, I fail to see how that work for here. There are lots of threads in unread and even if this is the only one there on the list your looking at there is no need to go in and cause trouble. I'm sure that if you made some thing and some one who thought it was not suppost to be here came and smashed that you would not be happy. Yes its not the focus yes you aren't meant to bring it but, you may have just wanted to show it. this thread is yes not meant to be here, true, but its not much different from bring toy to school. You want to show it to your friends. Again yes thats not the focus and yes they aren't meant to be there but you want to show it off. Thats all this thread is about. As for his other problems, I'll take that to pm's between me and him so that you can not have to look at then.
How about this...Serge, shut up. Your sounding like The Village Idiot after some kid popped his balloon. Now go to a forum where people respect what you say rather than somewhere where you can torture the less secure people on the site. 'Cause that sucks.IRW, get on topic while you have the chance.And Noodle, I thought you should STFU. 'K?
This isn't getting anywhere... from one side, there are the trolls, and the other side, Captain Emotion.Can you please get to an agreement or are ALL of you just ranting to vent over the internet because you had a crappy day ?
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