OHNO-OMG

[Sparkey98]

here is a decription:
the thing will function on Ten lines that all go up to ten. You will take a punch card designed to run with it, and use a whole puncher to punch holes counting as numbers, shown below:
1111111110
1011111111
1011111111
0111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1 stands for paper, 0 stands for a hole. there will be a set of feeler Bars running through the card reader, that sit in place while the card moves along. Whenever one of the sensors on the feelers notice that
They've gone through a hole, it triggers a reaction to spin a servo that spins a number wheel, similar to that on a lock, that goes up to nine. there are ten of theese wheels, and as the card goes throught, each time
it feels a hole, the wheel adjecent to it spins up one number untill the card falls out the back, leaving you with a 10 diget number.

[Serge]

Meh.

If anyone wants me to type out a descrition of a working Punchcard calculator just to prove it I will.

Does it use strings? How much bits does it have (protip: each bit is two XOR gates, two AND gates and one OR gate, and that's only for adding)?

Ow, my head. I'd much rather use a PLC than have to deal with gates and gates.

Aren't PLC's glorified computers with multiplexed IO and higher temperature range? :P

[COOLRUNNER87]

Meh.

If anyone wants me to type out a descrition of a working Punchcard calculator just to prove it I will.

Does it use strings? How much bits does it have (protip: each bit is two XOR gates, two AND gates and one OR gate, and that's only for adding)?

Ow, my head. I'd much rather use a PLC than have to deal with gates and gates.

Aren't PLC's glorified computers with multiplexed IO and higher temperature range? :P

Yes, yes they are. That's what makes them so much easier to use. Well, that and a good instructor with a good program also helps as well.

[frezal]

Wow really. I'm smart, and you know it. Even if I'm computer iliterate that dosn't mean I'm not smart. Straight A students are not stupid, now you shut your sad lifeless mouth.

TURN IN THAT ESSAY I ASSIGNED YOU! By this point, you're what, 2 months late? You agreed to it, and so far you're not living up to your word.

Oh, and if you're computer illiterate, WHY ARE YOU BRAGGING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU KNOW ABOUT COMPUTERS? Stop trying to impress everyone! Nobody likes a braggart. (This is especially true when the braggart boasts about crap they've only accomplished in the land of make believe.)

[Serge]

here is a decription:
the thing will function on Ten lines that all go up to ten. You will take a punch card designed to run with it, and use a whole puncher to punch holes counting as numbers, shown below:
1111111110
1011111111
1011111111
0111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1111111111
1 stands for paper, 0 stands for a hole. there will be a set of feeler Bars running through the card reader, that sit in place while the card moves along. Whenever one of the sensors on the feelers notice that
They've gone through a hole, it triggers a reaction to spin a servo that spins a number wheel, similar to that on a lock, that goes up to nine. there are ten of theese wheels, and as the card goes throught, each time
it feels a hole, the wheel adjecent to it spins up one number untill the card falls out the back, leaving you with a 10 diget number.

"will", "will". You said you built it. And this is way overkill. Servos? Spinning wheels? And this isn't adding, since there's no carry. You're also mixing binary and decimal. This is all bloody bullcrap. Now get off my lawn.

[ACAMS]

So, what if it does come up with a number........Jonzu95 IS ALREADY USING IT on his  phone!

[Serge]

It's all because of the Jews.

[COOLRUNNER87]

It's all because of the Jews.

Serge... are you telling me that Sparkey here is Mel Gibson Jr.?

[Serge]

It's all because of the Jews.

Serge... are you telling me that Sparkey here is Mel Gibson Jr.?

Yes! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!111!

[Sparkey98]

I did'nt build THAT, but, the point is is that it can make a 10 digit number all on it's own by reading a card and I should get some credit for that.

[Serge]

You can't "read" it. You're not storing it anywhere for computation. All you did was take a faw bars and translate holes to linear motion. I can build that sort of crap from Legos in a dozen of minutes.

[Sparkey98]

I' m working on one that takes in two cards and adds them up.

[Serge]

The crap you described won't add them, I already explained it to you.
1) you mix and match decimal and binary. what the sh**?
2) there's no carry
3) get out of here and learn about what you're talking about

[russian roulette]

Sparky, this is about IP addresses, at no point in that goddamn article does it point out that little punch cards that a 6th grader created will create a website let alone a whole user interface so go suck one and think before we have to do the thinking for you.

[Sparkey98]

The crap you described won't add them, I already explained it to you.
1) you mix and match decimal and binary. what the sh**?
2) there's no carry
3) get out of here and learn about what you're talking about

It was'nt mixing binary, stupid. I was using binary to represent it.  IRL is would be a car full of holes, representated by the friggin 0s.

[COOLRUNNER87]

Sparky, this is about IP addresses, at no point in that goddamn article does it point out that little punch cards that a 6th grader created will create a website let alone a whole user interface so go suck one and think before we have to do the thinking for you.

Thanks for saying what needed to be said.

As for me, I completely agree with Serge on the IPv4 matters. This isn't the end at all... until IPv6 runs out of addresses, but I have a feeling that they'll have a new system up well before they even get close to running out.

[frezal]

I remember back when I was young and thought I knew everything. Those were not good times. Socrates is credited to have said, "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance." I'm rather fond of that. The more intelligent you are, the more you know about how little you know. Sure, Socrates might not have existed, but that doesn't make the quotations attributed to him any less wise.

[Serge]

The crap you described won't add them, I already explained it to you.
1) you mix and match decimal and binary. what the sh**?
2) there's no carry
3) get out of here and learn about what you're talking about

It was'nt mixing binary, stupid. I was using binary to represent it.  IRL is would be a car full of holes, representated by the friggin 0s.

So wait. Let's switch to 8-bit instead of 10-bit, because that's easier to use. Let's take the humble number 42. Its representation in binary is 00101010 in 8-bit little endian or 01010100 in arbitrary-sized big endian. So when you want to add a 42 to a 43 you put this on your card:

Code: [Select]

00101010 <- 42
00101010 <- 43
The wheels start out at 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0. After the first number they switch to 00101010. After the second number they switch to 00202021. Now please tell me, what the crap is this wankery, and where's my 85?

[Sparkey98]

Aparentley you didn't listen. the 1010101010101s were for representation. The real card is a sheet of paper with a grit, and a hole in asorted grid spaces, which then are feeled by the feelers. Each hole that is felt by a ceartin feeler makes the above-adjecent wheel go up a number.

[Serge]

As for me, I completely agree with Serge on the IPv4 matters. This isn't the end at all... until IPv6 runs out of addresses, but I have a feeling that they'll have a new system up well before they even get close to running out.

IPv6 is 128-bit. That's a lot. About 3.4e38. That's a 34 with 37 zeros. There's a bout 10^80 number of atoms in the universe. If you gave an IPv6 address to every second atom in the universe, it wouldn't run out.

@Sparkey. I understood. I'm describing how the "cards" would look like. But the way you represent numbers make no sense whatsoever.