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For once the mods did something right
Your games are rigged, the hands are manipulated..........I know it, you know it.......maybe some day soon the world will know it.
Thank you for contacting PokerStars.Regarding your suggestion that PokerStars rigs its games, that would bepointless, as any analysis of the publicly available hand histories couldstatistically demonstrate that the games were rigged. Players wouldcertainly not play anywhere where the games were proven to be unfair. Thisis why hand histories are the ultimate safeguard for players, and ensurethat non-random, "rigged" software cannot be hidden by any means.Of course we understand that a PokerStars employee telling players this maybe treated with cynicism, so our game software was analysed by the largestconsulting firm specializing in software security and quality, Cigital. Theyreviewed PokerStars' game software and found it to be fair and random. Youmay read their analysis at:http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/Additionally, PokerStars has dealt over 40 billion hands without anyevidence, from anyone, that our shuffle is unfair or anything but random.If you are still concerned about PokerStars' games, why don't you examineyour results yourself? You can actually request your full hand history fromus and input it into some independent poker analysis software, such asPokerTracker, PokerOffice, or Hold'em Manager (you can download free trialsif you wish). These programs can then show you easy-to-read reports coveringall your results, plus a large number of other statistics on the hands youhave been dealt, your play, and the play of your opponents. If you do this,we know you will find that PokerStars deals a fair game.I hope I have helped alleviate your concerns about the integrity of oursite. Best of luck at the tables, and thank you for choosing PokerStars.Best Regards,DanieliusPokerStars Support Team
Additionally, PokerStars has dealt over 40 billion hands without anyevidence, from anyone, that our shuffle is unfair or anything but random. That is like one of those who done it detective shows when the guy gets caught and says "You can't prove that!" If you are still concerned about PokerStars' games, why don't you examineyour results yourself? You can actually request your full hand history fromus and input it into some independent poker analysis software, such asPokerTracker, PokerOffice, or Hold'em Manager I have been playing regularly for 5-6 years and see your pattern......I don't need software that can't see the whole picture!I will never put another nickel on your site, because I emailed you when I was in a Stud tournament and a guy had 5555333 to my 88877 (was from Buenos Aires....close to where you started out, probably a buddy of yours)....anyway, I used very foul language and since then it has been EVEN worse than it was before the email......I am 100% convinced you control every aspect of the games. Ever who wrote your software has it pretty well nailed now, and I noticed they were "testing" with the play money games a couple years ago, and now have it pretty well controlled.
On 8/8/2010 6:07 PM, PokerStars Support wrote:Poker is a game of high variance (with a very large range of possibleresults), in which every player will encounter periodical upswings anddownswings. It is inevitable that for some players these swings will occurat the same time as other events, such as a software update, a chatrevocation, a chip rebuy, a cashout, or even an email to Support. Althoughit may seem evident to some players that there is a link between suchevents, the truth is that they are totally unrelated.We only facilitate the game by dealing the cards in a fair, honest andrandom manner. PokerStars has never influenced or altered the outcome of anyhand. Our shuffle algorithm has been tested by Cigital, the largestconsulting firm specialising in software security and quality, who found itto be fair and random. You may read their analysis here:http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/As mentioned, plenty of independent studies have found the opposite to betrue. You may find just two of them here:http://tinyurl.com/32ajmahttp://tinyurl.com/2wu99wNote this is not PokerStars just saying "we are random", these areindependent reviews.If you are still concerned about PokerStars' games, our offer to send youyour full hand history, so you may analyse it yourself or with theassistance of some independent poker analysis software such as PokerTracker,PokerOffice, or Hold'em Manager. Your own hand histories will clearly showour shuffle is random.Regards,Nick HPokerStars Support Team
My game updated last night, and even tho I thought you could not code me worse.....I was wrong.Oh well at least you are not getting my money!I KNOW, I KNOW......just a coincidence, PokerStars has never influenced or altered the outcome of any hand. :-*Keep it up, I don't care anymore.
[quote=ACAMS]Your games are rigged, the hands are manipulated..........I know it, you know it.......maybe some day soon the world will know it.[/quote] [quote=jokerstars]Thank you for contacting PokerStars.Regarding your suggestion that PokerStars rigs its games, that would bepointless, as any analysis of the publicly available hand histories couldstatistically demonstrate that the games were rigged. Players wouldcertainly not play anywhere where the games were proven to be unfair. Thisis why hand histories are the ultimate safeguard for players, and ensurethat non-random, "rigged" software cannot be hidden by any means.Of course we understand that a PokerStars employee telling players this maybe treated with cynicism, so our game software was analysed by the largestconsulting firm specializing in software security and quality, Cigital. Theyreviewed PokerStars' game software and found it to be fair and random. Youmay read their analysis at:[url]http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/[/url]Additionally, PokerStars has dealt over 40 billion hands without anyevidence, from anyone, that our shuffle is unfair or anything but random.If you are still concerned about PokerStars' games, why don't you examineyour results yourself? You can actually request your full hand history fromus and input it into some independent poker analysis software, such asPokerTracker, PokerOffice, or Hold'em Manager (you can download free trialsif you wish). These programs can then show you easy-to-read reports coveringall your results, plus a large number of other statistics on the hands youhave been dealt, your play, and the play of your opponents. If you do this,we know you will find that PokerStars deals a fair game.I hope I have helped alleviate your concerns about the integrity of oursite. Best of luck at the tables, and thank you for choosing PokerStars.Best Regards,DanieliusPokerStars Support Team[/quote] [quote=ACAMS]Additionally, PokerStars has dealt over 40 billion hands without anyevidence, from anyone, that our shuffle is unfair or anything but random. [color=red]That is like one of those who done it detective shows when the guy gets caught and says "You can't prove that!"[/color] If you are still concerned about PokerStars' games, why don't you examineyour results yourself? You can actually request your full hand history fromus and input it into some independent poker analysis software, such asPokerTracker, PokerOffice, or Hold'em Manager [color=red]I have been playing regularly for 5-6 years and see your pattern......I don't need software that can't see the whole picture!I will never put another nickel on your site, because I emailed you when I was in a Stud tournament and a guy had 5555333 to my 88877 (was from Buenos Aires....close to where you started out, probably a buddy of yours)....anyway, I used very foul language and since then it has been EVEN worse than it was before the email......I am 100% convinced you control every aspect of the games. Ever who wrote your software has it pretty well nailed now, and I noticed they were "testing" with the play money games a couple years ago, and now have it pretty well controlled.[/color][/quote][quote=jokerstars]On 8/8/2010 6:07 PM, PokerStars Support wrote:Poker is a game of high variance (with a very large range of possibleresults), in which every player will encounter periodical upswings anddownswings. It is inevitable that for some players these swings will occurat the same time as other events, such as a software update, a chatrevocation, a chip rebuy, a cashout, or even an email to Support. Althoughit may seem evident to some players that there is a link between suchevents, the truth is that they are totally unrelated.We only facilitate the game by dealing the cards in a fair, honest andrandom manner. PokerStars has never influenced or altered the outcome of anyhand. Our shuffle algorithm has been tested by Cigital, the largestconsulting firm specialising in software security and quality, who found itto be fair and random. You may read their analysis here:[url]http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/[/url]As mentioned, plenty of independent studies have found the opposite to betrue. You may find just two of them here:[url]http://tinyurl.com/32ajma[/url][url]http://tinyurl.com/2wu99w[/url]Note this is not PokerStars just saying "we are random", these areindependent reviews.If you are still concerned about PokerStars' games, our offer to send youyour full hand history, so you may analyse it yourself or with theassistance of some independent poker analysis software such as PokerTracker,PokerOffice, or Hold'em Manager. Your own hand histories will clearly showour shuffle is random.Regards,Nick HPokerStars Support Team[/quote] [quote=ACAMS]My game updated last night, and even tho I thought you could not code me worse.....I was wrong.Oh well at least you are not getting my money!I KNOW, I KNOW......just a coincidence, PokerStars has never influenced or altered the outcome of any hand. :-*Keep it up, I don't care anymore.[/quote] Look at what I found...THIS IS REAL!!!!! [img]https://gametechmods.com/Pics/5_aces.jpg[/img]