Debate: Are you ready to die?

[Sparkey98]

*facepalm*
 
I was trying to explain it was not that, my grandma recalled the postistion he was in, and that's what I saw. I know there is an afterlife :/

[frezal]

*facepalm*
 
I was trying to explain it was not that, my grandma recalled the postistion he was in, and that's what I saw. I know there is an afterlife :/

How can you come to that conclusion when there are so many variables involved? If we were to independently observe two separate people (without us knowing we weren't watching the same person) and then collaboratively compare what we saw, we would likely come up with the same descriptions. There simply isn't much that varies from person-to-person.


Since both of you knew your uncle well, that muddies things up more. I would bet dollars to donuts that most of the descriptions of the phantom on the bench came from memories from the past. How could you both hallucinate this at the same time? Like you said, you were 5, and your uncle was your favorite person. You wanted more than anything to believe that your uncle was still around and safe.

There's also the fact that your brain lies to you. To be clear, I'm not saying that what I've written is for sure what happened. There are far too many variables involved, and I quite simply wasn't there. I'm just presenting another possible explanation that doesn't involve the supernatural.

[Pwnator]

Narrator: [Tyler steers the car into the opposite lane and accelerates] What are you doing?
Tyler Durden: Guys, what would you wish you'd done before you died?
Ricky: Paint a self-portrait.
The Mechanic: Build a house.
Tyler Durden: [to Narrator] And you?
Narrator: I don't know. Turn the wheel now, come on!
Tyler Durden: You have to know the answer to this question! If you died right now, how would you feel about your life?
Narrator: I don't know, I wouldn't feel anything good about my life, is that what you want to hear me say? Fine. Come on!
Tyler Durden: Not good enough.

I love that book (and the film as well).


Also, the link frezal posted is kinda kewl. COKE IS A PAINT THINNER! XD

[Sparkey98]

well, I've still had other presences that make me beleive there is an afterlife, there is. I've seen my uncle many other times, I won't even be thinking about him and he apears.

[ACAMS]

I've seen my uncle many other times, I won't even be thinking about him and he apears.

Drunk and trying to have sex with you?
 
 

he apears.

It is appears
 
 
 
 

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[Jack Daniels]

*ACAMS picking on Sparkey*

Reported! Wait... uhm... I just reported ACAMS to ACAMS.  That's not going to get me very far.  :P

Seriously though, don't derail this thread. It's one of the rare ones that actually doesn't royally suck.

Thanks.

[frezal]

well, I've still had other presences that make me beleive there is an afterlife, there is. I've seen my uncle many other times, I won't even be thinking about him and he apears.

Take a photo of him the next time he appears. If you are actually seeing him and not imagining him, a camera will be able to capture his image.

[russian roulette]

How bout reincarnation, that crap creeps me out. There is less than a percent chance you would even be on earth (if there is another humanoid planet(s)). I'm sticking with good ol' heaven. That would be great. Yet there is so much to accomplish in society, I'd wish I would live to see the world as era by era progresses.

[frezal]

How bout reincarnation, that crap creeps me out. There is less than a percent chance you would even be on earth (if there is another humanoid planet(s)). I'm sticking with good ol' heaven. That would be great. Yet there is so much to accomplish in society, I'd wish I would live to see the world as era by era progresses.

Reincarnation would be pointless as we clearly don't remember anything from past lives. As for heaven, the Biblical heaven, no thanks. If I wanted to be forced to worship an egomaniac, I'd move to North Korea.

[russian roulette]

IMO the people on MTV's Buried Life are doing what anyone would do. That is what life is about, making the best of every moment until it is over (for the arabs, 79 virgins is overkill).

[Naryar]

It's 72

And reincarnation > heaven... if both exist, and that i doubt.

[Flying_Chao]

Reincarnation is the same as getting amnesia and turning into a baby who is nothing like you. Heaven hasn't actually been described, it is only been said to be better than hell.

[Avalanche]

I am not redy to die.Nuff said.

[Sparkey98]

well, I've still had other presences that make me beleive there is an afterlife, there is. I've seen my uncle many other times, I won't even be thinking about him and he apears.

Take a photo of him the next time he appears. If you are actually seeing him and not imagining him, a camera will be able to capture his image.

I just can't expect you to beleive it, it's a see it or belive it thing. And I don't think he'd want me posting pics of him on the internet without his permisian, and trust me, if i ever get visited by him, can i pozt u on teh interwebz/ is the last thing I'll say. The last I'll say probabley is "A-Are, yo-" then wake up on the floor houw later.

[Flying_Chao]

Who says he has to know?

[GoldenFox93]

Reincarnation is the same as getting amnesia and turning into a baby who is nothing like you. Heaven hasn't actually been described, it is only been said to be better than hell.

To me, Heaven is what people themselves imagine it to be like. Their own personal paradise, in other words.

[frezal]

I just can't expect you to beleive it, it's a see it or belive it thing.

Provide a photo of your uncle's ghosts and I'll open up to the possibility of ghosts existing. You will also gain worldwide fame as you'll be the first person to ever provide any legitimate evidence indicating that ghosts exist.

And I don't think he'd want me posting pics of him on the internet without his permisian, and trust me, if i ever get visited by him, can i pozt u on teh interwebz/ is the last thing I'll say.

He wouldn't want you gaining fame and riches for being the first person to prove that ghosts exist? Why wouldn't he? Just take a picture and post it. If he objects to it, you can always apologize later.

The last I'll say probabley is "A-Are, yo-" then wake up on the floor houw later.

Wait... You wake up on the floor hours later after seeing him? Have you considered the possibility that you're just dreaming when you see him?

[Sparkey98]

Sarcasm, my friend
 
how would I know to have my camera when he shows up? huh? like I said, I can't expect you to understand.

[frezal]

Sarcasm, my friend
 
how would I know to have my camera when he shows up? huh? like I said, I can't expect you to understand.

Keep a camera on hand. Or say, "Hey, wait here a second. I want to fundamentally change every branch of science!"


Does your uncle's ghost wear clothes, by the way? If so, what's the practicality of that, and how did he obtain them?

[frezal]

Sorry to drag this thread back, but I found an interesting link relating to Sparkles's seeing of his uncle.
http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2008/12/i_see_dead_people.php