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Will you enter?

Yes!
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Yes, and I would like to be a judge. (Say name in thread.)
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No, but I would like to be a judge.
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No.
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Maybe.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2015, 02:29:09 PM »
I voted.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2015, 06:17:26 AM »
4 more people, lets get this going!
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2015, 06:36:52 AM »
What weight is this btw?
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2015, 06:42:38 AM »
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2015, 06:45:22 AM »
ahh so third level is allowed
get in
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2015, 07:08:44 AM »
Alright, 2 more yes votes and we are done! If you said no, please say why.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2015, 03:45:40 AM »
Quote from: Avalanche on February 24, 2015, 07:08:44 AM
If you said no, please say why.

F*** SHWs.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2015, 04:58:31 AM »
Mature...

If I can get round to building a decent IF SHW I'll enter, but not sure as of yet.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2015, 11:13:07 PM »
Quote from: Avalanche on January 20, 2015, 09:50:06 AM
If a match ends without a winner, a poll will go up to decide who won for 4 days, unless one bot gains a lead of 8 votes.
This system sucks and is going to cause a ton of favoritism.

in-game points > judges > your system
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2015, 11:14:48 PM »
Quote from: Mr. AS on February 25, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: Avalanche on January 20, 2015, 09:50:06 AM
If a match ends without a winner, a poll will go up to decide who won for 4 days, unless one bot gains a lead of 8 votes.
This system sucks and is going to cause a ton of favoritism.

in-game points > judges > your system
in game points suck even more than any of those

Quote from: RammingSpeed on February 25, 2015, 03:45:40 AM
Quote from: Avalanche on February 24, 2015, 07:08:44 AM
If you said no, please say why.

F*** SHWs.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2015, 11:30:08 PM »
Quote from: 090901 on February 25, 2015, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: Mr. AS on February 25, 2015, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: Avalanche on January 20, 2015, 09:50:06 AM
If a match ends without a winner, a poll will go up to decide who won for 4 days, unless one bot gains a lead of 8 votes.
This system sucks and is going to cause a ton of favoritism.

in-game points > judges > your system
in game points suck even more than any of those
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or what, but in-game points is the most objective way to determine who wins after the time limit expires and the least subject to "well hurr I like this bot/builder more than the other bot/builder so it wins".
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How you make Alarm Clock Pizza is:
Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
Step 2: Fold the sauce in 5 slices and put it in the dough.
Step 3: Paint the eggs with a pitcher of a clock showing what time you want to wake up and eat pizza for breakfast.
Step 4: Put the eggs in the dough.
Step 5: Make it flat into a round shape and draw the time you want on it.
Step 6: Put some old steel to prevent other peple from stealing it.
Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2015, 12:35:10 AM »
Quote from: Mr. AS on February 25, 2015, 11:30:08 PM
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or what, but in-game points is the most objective way to determine who wins after the time limit expires and the least subject to "well hurr I like this bot/builder more than the other bot/builder so it wins".
Please explain why the in-game points system is better other than the fact that someone could favor someone else, since there is many flaws with the points system that can screw up results. For example, you have Bot A which is some stupid invertible bot with spikes and a flamethrower. Then you have Bot B which is a flipper. In the fight, Bot A gets totally manhandled by Bot B, but would still win the match since "hurr durr flamethrower and spikes xd". I mean it's also totally fair for someone to win if they make some slow heavily weaponed HS and win a match against another HS just because their HS has more weapons even if it gets pushed around and doesn't do jack!!!!
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2015, 10:56:41 AM »
Quote from: 090901 on February 26, 2015, 12:35:10 AM
Please explain why the in-game points system is better other than the fact that someone could favor someone else
Human error is just something you don't want and try to avoid in competition, which is why most sports use objective means of scoring (such as homeruns or touchdowns). This is RA2, not synchronized swimming, lol.

Quote from: 090901 on February 26, 2015, 12:35:10 AM
...there is [sic] many flaws with the points system that can screw up results.
Alright, let's hear them.

Quote from: 090901 on February 26, 2015, 12:35:10 AM
For example, you have Bot A which is some stupid invertible bot with spikes and a flamethrower. Then you have Bot B which is a flipper. In the fight, Bot A gets totally manhandled by Bot B, but would still win the match since "hurr durr flamethrower and spikes xd".
A flipper is screwed either way against anything that's invertible, unless the flipper gets an OOTA, immobilizes the rammer or manages to push the rammer into hazards which KO it. There's also the fact that flippers do virtually ZERO damage. The rammer shouldn't have to lose the match just because it got flipped over for no damage a bunch of times.

Quote from: 090901 on February 26, 2015, 12:35:10 AM
I mean it's also totally fair for someone to win if they make some slow heavily weaponed HS and win a match against another HS just because their HS has more weapons even if it gets pushed around and doesn't do jack!!!!
If it's getting pushed around and isn't doing anything, then it's likely going to either get immobilized or get it's chassis/other vitals hit. If they just give it a gigantic overkill motor and then slap a pair of drive motors and wheels that wound't be out of place on an AW on, then it's likely going to fly out of the arena too, given this tourney is in the robot wars arena.
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How you make Alarm Clock Pizza is:
Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
Step 2: Fold the sauce in 5 slices and put it in the dough.
Step 3: Paint the eggs with a pitcher of a clock showing what time you want to wake up and eat pizza for breakfast.
Step 4: Put the eggs in the dough.
Step 5: Make it flat into a round shape and draw the time you want on it.
Step 6: Put some old steel to prevent other peple from stealing it.
Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2015, 12:10:53 PM »
I can see why 09 is arguing against in-game points since this is an IRL style tournament, it would make sense for people to judge on one's performance, I.E.: Battlebots, but the poll deciding the winner isn't exactly what I would an amazing system either, it can lead a horrible result of who the entire crowd wants to see move on by means of trolling rather than an actual reason of who won without a means of who actually controls the match.


With this in mind, I feel that hiring judges would work, but you gotta make sure things are fair. Also, if Avalanche wants to do what he says in the rules, he can do it. I feel since he wants to host things his way, it's his job to see if he wants to listen to the audience or not.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2015, 01:02:36 PM »
What RedAce said.

Impartial judges are the best way in my opinion for an IRL tournament.
Every other style, in game points.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2015, 05:26:43 AM »
Ok, judges system is underway, calling all judges. I will have the final say in who are the judges because i dont want somebody who will troll.
I will remove the poll because this is clearly not ready for a poll.
Also need a score system, pm me ideas.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2015, 03:40:19 PM »
lol just make sure you're judges aren't fags
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2015, 02:39:19 PM »
Still needing judges.
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2015, 02:03:55 AM »
ill judge
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Re: The Second Assault: Discussion.
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2015, 02:50:16 AM »
^^ lol

I can judge.
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