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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2010, 01:02:41 PM »
3 bots to AI for me is a piece of cake now.

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2010, 02:12:40 PM »
I liek.

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2010, 05:07:56 PM »

Yoda is no n00b. He has the skills to run a tourney.

Because he made the arcade his female dog?

Well he's got other things going for him:
-He can record and post online just fine.
-Seems like a competent builder (which should reflect potential AI skills as well)
-He does not seem to have advanced stages of ADD

Go for it Yoda!

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2010, 05:21:15 PM »


Because he made the arcade his female dog? been playing some of those games longer than most of these younglings have been alive..lol

Well he's got other things going for him:
-He can record and post online just fine.
-Seems like a competent builder (which should reflect potential AI skills as well) it's the 'potential' part that's making me hold off for now
-He does not seem to have advanced stages of ADD just a slight case of lysdexia

Go for it Yoda!

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2010, 10:05:26 PM »
How about all 3 bots must be different bot type?  So no 3 Flail SnS or 3 popups.

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2010, 11:34:18 PM »
Yes, definately a rule there, all 3 must be different bot types.  Will also put a restriction on the amount of flails on any bot...probably extremely low.  These matches can go on forever, i don't want to have to restart due to havocs if i can avoid it.  Thinking 2 flails max per bot. 
 
My original intention was to hold this in the combat arena, but i'm thinking now the dsl tournament arena would be better.  Allows flippers to stand a chance, and can lower the match times significantly. 
 
 
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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2010, 10:17:01 AM »
Yes, definately a rule there, all 3 must be different bot types.  Will also put a restriction on the amount of flails on any bot...probably extremely low.  These matches can go on forever, i don't want to have to restart due to havocs if i can avoid it.  Thinking 2 flails max per bot. 
 
My original intention was to hold this in the combat arena, but i'm thinking now the dsl tournament arena would be better.  Allows flippers to stand a chance, and can lower the match times significantly.
I like your original idea with the AW/ BW Tag Team. That would be a sweat tourney not so thrilled about the idea if one bot gets destroyed then the you have switch out and replace it seems like it would be to time consuming making all the videos. You should make a poll of the different ideas for this tourney :smile: .

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2010, 11:25:12 AM »
Yes, definately a rule there, all 3 must be different bot types.  Will also put a restriction on the amount of flails on any bot...probably extremely low. 

YES !

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2010, 11:54:38 AM »
I like your original idea with the AW/ BW Tag Team. That would be a sweat tourney not so thrilled about the idea if one bot gets destroyed then the you have switch out and replace it seems like it would be to time consuming making all the videos. You should make a poll of the different ideas for this tourney :smile: .

yeah, it's gonna take awhile, no doubt.  But if you guys are willing to watch them, i'm willing to record them.  I got plenty of time on my hands.  get 3 days in a row off of work each week.  If the videos get too long, i could even edit them down to just be 'highlight' videos and do a writeup of the full match. 
 
I actually hate the idea of having to stop the match and restart.  But it's the only way (that i know of) to get the effect.  In a perfect world, when one bot gets eliminated, the new one would just enter the match in progress.  The idea was inspired by the old Survivor Series matches in  WWF(E, whatever). 
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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2010, 12:01:45 PM »
The idea was inspired by the old Survivor Series matches in  WWF(E, whatever).

haha I had inspiration from that before.. back in the days (10 ? years ago) when wrestling wasnt a TV soap drama :P

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2010, 12:21:36 PM »
I think it should be 4 flails

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2010, 01:54:28 PM »
I like your original idea with the AW/ BW Tag Team. That would be a sweat tourney not so thrilled about the idea if one bot gets destroyed then the you have switch out and replace it seems like it would be to time consuming making all the videos. You should make a poll of the different ideas for this tourney :smile: .

yeah, it's gonna take awhile, no doubt.  But if you guys are willing to watch them, i'm willing to record them.  I got plenty of time on my hands.  get 3 days in a row off of work each week.  If the videos get too long, i could even edit them down to just be 'highlight' videos and do a writeup of the full match. 
 
I actually hate the idea of having to stop the match and restart.  But it's the only way (that i know of) to get the effect.  In a perfect world, when one bot gets eliminated, the new one would just enter the match in progress.  The idea was inspired by the old Survivor Series matches in  WWF(E, whatever).

O I didn't realize you had that much time on your hands, I'm game then :evilsmile: . I'm pretty sure the people that will enter will be very willing to watch all the videos :smile: .

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »
So...Unofficial official rules as it stands currently...
 
Each entrant makes a team consisting of a LW, a MW, and a HW.  Matches consist of a rumble, starting out with all LW's of 4 teams.  When 1 bot is eliminated, the match is stopped and the eliminated bot is removed, to be replaced by the next bot in the team.  This goes on until 3 teams are eliminated, last team standing wins the match.
 
16 entrants only
arena will be the RA2 Tournament arena
This will be ran in NarAI v2.2.  All components legal in that are legal in the tourney
No BFE, AAM, etc.  All building must be done in the bot lab.
No cheatbot2 parts, ai parts, or custom parts allowed.
bots must show controlled movement.
No multibots, since they wouldn't work right anyway.
Realistic rule enforced.
each bot in a team must be different types.
A strict limit of 4 flails PER TEAM.
Standard Havok restart rules.
Entrants AI'ing their own bots is preferred, however, i can AI if need be.  But i expect no griping if i don't do it the way you want.
 
Prizes will be...well, i'm not sure yet.  Sometime this week, i'm going to be working on learning to reskin components.  So, it'll probably be something along those lines. 
 
 
bracket is as follows
 

 
and here's a quick (as quick as something like this can get) video of a match example
 
SOTF test match part 1.wmv
 
and since it couldn't be contained in 1 video, part 2
SOTF test match 2.wmv
 
Further suggestions? Any Gripes?  Anything i've forgotten?
 
 
 
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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2010, 04:29:42 AM »
This will be ran in NarAI v2.2.  All components legal in that are legal in the tourney

YES!

I am slowly conquering the RA2 world :P

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2010, 05:24:07 AM »
I am slowly conquering the RA2 world :P

to Hell you are!!! :P

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2010, 05:37:11 AM »
I am very aware if there is one Hell, i will go to it when i will die.

You do not seem to accept a rival in your world-takeon plans, huh ?

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2010, 05:55:53 AM »
tis my plan of world domination not yours  :gawe:

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2010, 06:14:02 AM »
You are not enough of an evil mastermind to conquer the world.

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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2010, 11:04:35 AM »
Prizes will be...well, i'm not sure yet.  Sometime this week, i'm going to be working on learning to reskin components.  So, it'll probably be something along those lines. 

If you want, I could make something for you. :)


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Re: Survival of the Fittest (testing the waters)
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2010, 02:08:49 PM »
Nar!! Joe!! Stop fighting, you can BOTH take over the world.
 


If you want, I could make something for you. :)

I'll keep you in mind then, thanks.  I wanna see what i can do with it first, This is giving me a reason to learn how to do it.  But if mine just flat out suck, I will appreciate the help :D. 
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