Rival Rumble - ALL BOTS IN

[Thrackerzod]

This was going to be my 800th post, but I overshot.  Instead, it's my 800th + 42 post, which is also pretty good, I guess.



The best new tournament host 2015 is at it again with another terrible gimmick tournament!

BORING RULES:
-DSL 2.2, standard building style, HW
-No cheatbot parts, custom parts, etc.
-Multibots are not allowed
-No BFE, AAM, EXP, or whatever other crazy acronym you guys use
-Arena will be the Ring Arena, 3 minute matches
-Single elimination, best of 3 matches
-16 (hopefully) spots
-I will not enter.
-Havok rule: In the event of a major havok occurring during a match, I will rerecord the match.  If you feel like your bot was unfairly influenced by a havok that I did not consider restart-worthy, say something and I'll see about redoing the match.

THE GIMMICK:
-Entrants will signup without actually entering any robots yet (kinda like Pot Luck)
-All entrants will select a rival (the rival must also be in the tournament, obviously)
-Rivalry must be mutual; If I asked ACAMS to be my rival and he said no, I'd have to pick someone else.
-Similarly, if I pick ACAMS to be my rival and he said yes, then he would not also get to pick a second rival.
-If there are an odd number of entrants by the time the deadline rolls around, whoever entered last will not be able to participate, unfortunately.
-Once the entering phase is completed, each entrant PMs me a bot type (must be only one type; no hybrids). Their rival has to build a bot of this type.  I will post the assignments once they all have been made.
-I reserve the right to refuse any given robot type. Gyro Drills, Crawlers, SnS and Trinity bots are banned.
-All entrants will build their bots and submit them and all that jazz.
-Hybrids are okay so long as the main weapon system is the assigned type.  For this tournament, "main weapon system" is defined as "the one with the most weight, including extenders, baseplate anchors, motors, etc."  The weight total does not include batteries, however.
-The first round of the tournament will be rival vs rival matches.  After that, it'll be a standard single elimination tournament.

ENTRANTS:
1. TheRedBlur
2. Squirrel_Monkey
3. Sircreepalot2
4. Geice
5. RedAce
6. DeadGenocide
7. 090901
8. Gauche Suede
9. kaiser112183
10. Kossokei
11. Naryar
12. Mr. AS
13. Silverfish
14. Bobyasianboy
15. ty4er
16. Mystic2000

BACKUPS:
1. KingofKings696
2. Scorpion

Black = entered
Green = has a rival

RIVALRIES:
1. TheRedBlur vs DeadGenocide
2. Squirrel_Monkey vs RedAce
3. Kossokei vs Naryar
4. 090901 vs ty4er
5. Sircreepalot2 vs Silverfish
6. Geice vs Mr. AS
7. Bobyasianboy vs Gauche Suede
8. Mystic2000 vs KingofKings696

Black = has not submitted a bot type
Green = has submitted a bot type

Deadline for bot type assignment is 11:59 PM on March 27.

BOT TYPES:
TheRedBlur -------- Clamp
DeadGenocide ------ Chicken Drill

Squirrel_Monkey --- Flying Guillotine
RedAce ------------ Clamp

Kossokei ---------- Poker
Naryar ------------ Poker

090901 ------------ Flail Hammer
ty4er ------------- Clamp

Sircreepalot2 ----- Popup
Silverfish -------- Popup

Geice ------------- Poker
Mr. AS ------------ Full Body Spinner

Bobyasianboy ------ Upwards Poker
Gauche Suede ------ Weaponed Flipper

Mystic2000 -------- Chicken Drill
KingofKings696 ------ Vertical Hammer

Black = not submitted
Red = submitted but something is wrong
Orange = submitted
Green = AIed and all that

Deadline for bot submission is 11:59 PM on May 7.

[yugitom]

Really like the gimmick :) If you decide to give your rival something difficult to work with, expect no mercy from their pick, haha. As usual, I'll be voting no just so I can see the votes every time I view the page (and I just don't normally enter tournaments :P)

[RedAce]

I like the idea of the gimmick, but it can make things complicated in my opinion, why not have them randomized so that it's easier to work out.  Also, I suggest you enter if there is an odd number of entrants, just to even things out.

I plan can still enter, but just beware.  I'm not the best in 2.2.

[yugitom]

I think the whole idea is that you join the tournament sort of like in pairs. If you have a grudge with someone on GTM, or just someone you want to prove yourself to, you may want to talk to them about signing up for this tournament.

[Mecha]

I like the idea. I won't enter because DSL, but this could be interesting.

[Naryar]

tfw when i want to enter and r0b0 isn't here

[Thrackerzod]

Glad to see this is getting some discussion!

I think the whole idea is that you join the tournament sort of like in pairs. If you have a grudge with someone on GTM, or just someone you want to prove yourself to, you may want to talk to them about signing up for this tournament.

Well put, thanks.  That said, it's no problem if you'd rather just sign up and see who else enters.

I like the idea. I won't enter because DSL, but this could be interesting.

Game version and weightclass aren't set in stone yet.  I just picked HW to allow for the most creativity with constrained designs, and I picked DSL since there's two Stock tournaments in signups right now, and an Ironforge one in discussion.

[Scorpion]

I'd be interested since its dsl tbh. Not sure about the bot type thing entirely though, is the arena open? Otherwise giving your opponent flipper would be an easy win?
Shame everybody loves me though, so i have no rivals...

[The Red Blur]

I like this. Sign me up!

[yugitom]

Not sure about the bot type thing entirely though, is the arena open? Otherwise giving your opponent flipper would be an easy win?

The Ring Arena is open but I think the idea is to give your opponent something more outlandish, or perhaps something you haven't seen them build before or in a long time, rather than go for something that might actually give you the edge against them.

[Badger]

What're the rules on hybrids?

[Reier]

im just worried this will turn into everyone's rival telling them to build a terrible bot and the whole thing will be filled with tfsrsbds and flippers and stuff

also the first guy who is told what bot to build will basically come out on top cause then he'll tell his rival to build a bot type that's weak against his

[Thrackerzod]

also the first guy who is told what bot to build will basically come out on top cause then he'll tell his rival to build a bot type that's weak against his

Good point.  I'll add something about having to PM me bot assignments to the OP.

I like this. Sign me up!

Glad you're interested!  I won't make any signups or rivalries official until the tournament moves to signups, though.

What're the rules on hybrids?

Good question!  How about this: hybrids are OK as long as the main weapon system is of the assigned type.  This, of course, runs into problems with defining "main weapon system", so I'll define it as "the one that has the most weight, including extenders and baseplate anchors and all that".  If that sounds reasonable, I'll add it to the OP.

Also, I was thinking maybe I should ban some of the really terrible bot types, like Gyro Drill or whatever.  Thoughts?

[090901]

im just worried this will turn into everyone's rival telling them to build a terrible bot and the whole thing will be filled with tfsrsbds and flippers and stuff

but thats what makes pot luck so great is the dumb bot types people come up with

[yugitom]

defining "main weapon system", so I'll define it as "the one that has the most weight, including extenders and baseplate anchors and all that".  If that sounds reasonable, I'll add it to the OP.

So a 51/49 split is cool?

[Naryar]

*tsundere mode activate*

fine i'll take madman if there is no one else. or even thyrus. and not a noname that i never even had any animosity with

[09090901]

what are you planning on doing if someone doesn't send a bot?

[The Red Blur]

If DG enters, I think it's clear that he should be my rival.

[Thrackerzod]

what are you planning on doing if someone doesn't send a bot?

Another good point!  How about something like the Backup Brigade in Pot Luck 2?  Of course, hopefully everyone will send one, but that might be too much to ask for.

defining "main weapon system", so I'll define it as "the one that has the most weight, including extenders and baseplate anchors and all that".  If that sounds reasonable, I'll add it to the OP.

So a 51/49 split is cool?

If someone goes to the effort to make their hybrid that refined, then sure, I guess.

[yugitom]

Of course, hopefully everyone will send one, but that might be too much to ask for.

I sure hope it isn't too much to ask for. If we go out of our way to penalise tournament hosts if they do not do what they said they were going to do, I think we should ask for the same of those who wish to participate in these sort of tournaments (where you must sign up and then make a robot, not the other way around.)