Author Topic: Recreating Robot Wars Series (Read 3151 times)

TK Kenta · « **on:** August 10, 2014, 07:45:52 AM »

Okay so I've been thinking of doing this for a while now and I've decided to post about it before I do it, just to see what people though of it.

Also before I go on, is there any mods out there that contains all robots from series 1-7, Extreme Wars and from the Roaming Robots?

Because what I have planned is with all of the robots, I want to recreate the series 1-7 including the Extreme Wars and other side events. But just change it up. Meaning in series 1 head A it could have for an example; Chaos 2, Storm 2, Diotoir, Iron Awe 5 etc. etc.

Hope you people get my point, if not then I'll try to explain it a bit more if I can....

cephalopod · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2014, 07:48:18 AM »

Unfortunately there are no mods that contain all those bots - nowhere near, and there never will be, I doubt.
Would this be a display tournament then?

TK Kenta · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2014, 07:53:40 AM »

Yea I guess it would be....

Then I guess what I could do, is with maybe help from people with creating the bots and AI.... Maybe what could do, at least for the first series was to get all the bots and randomise them and place the randomised robots into Series 1.... Would that work? I could try my best to create and AI (with help, like I said... Since I'm new to AI'ing)....

cephalopod · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2014, 07:59:45 AM »

All the bots from every series? I'm afraid that won't happen - there have been efforts to make every bot from a single series that have all failed. The most promising currently is this: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=15800.0 which is an effort to make all the bots from Series 1. Perhaps it would make sense to help finish this pack, and then this tournament could be run using Series 1 bots?

TK Kenta · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2014, 08:05:08 AM »

Oh no, what I meant was to randomise robots from the entire Robot wars like from S1-7 and Extreme and that, and then place them into series one.

Like for an example

Heat 1:
Chaos 2
Razor
Eruption
Revolution
Grunt
Evil Weeval

And then I would make those robots and then I'll do heat A and such, if that makes any sense...

cephalopod · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2014, 08:07:01 AM »

Well I'll move this thread into Display Tournaments and then you can work something out - either way, it's going to involve a lot of bot making and AIing on your part

TK Kenta · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2014, 08:11:34 AM »

Yea I'm willing to

TK Kenta · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2014, 08:12:24 AM »

Although it could take a while before I a episode appears.

TK Kenta · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2014, 12:10:37 AM »

Okay so I found all the robots from Robot Wars and Roaming Robots. and I put them in a randomiser and got 36 robots for the Series 1 of Recreated Robot Wars. So down below will be the list of robots.

Fluffy
Ripper
Darke Destroyer
The Grim Reaper (S7)
Ansgar 3
PulverizeR
Trouble 'n' Strife (S5)
Cataclysmic Variabot
Scrapper
Typhoon 2
Panzer
Uglybot
The Spider
SAT'arn
Beast of Bodmin
Loco
Ewe 2
Scrap-2-Saur
Spam
Pika 3
Spawn of Scutter
BOD
Hammerhead 2
Tetanus
Torque of the Devil
Shadow od Napalm
Lizzard
Tantos
Kat 3
Robot The Bruce
Invertabrat
Basenji
Corckscrew
Aggrobot 3
Marauder
The Revolutionist

So I'll try my best to create then, feel free to help if you want. I may need it including when it comes to AI'ing I'm very new to that.

BTW here are the Heats that I've made.

Heat 1:
Fluffy
Ripper
Darke Destroyer
The Grim Reaper (S7 Version)
Ansgar 3
PulverizeR

Heat 2:
Trouble 'n' Strife
Cataclysmic Variabot
Scrapper
Typhoon 2
Panzer
Uglybot

Heat 3:
The Spider
SAT'arn
Beast of Bodmin
Loco
Ewe 2
Scrap-2-Saur

Heat 4:
Spam
Pika 3
Spawn of Scutter
BOD
Hammerhead 2
Tetanus

Heat 5:
Torque of the Devil
Shadow of Napalm
Lizzard
Tantos
Kat 3
Robot The Bruce

Heat 6:
Invertabrat
Basenji
Corckscrew
Aggrobot 3
Marauder
The Revolutionist

Jaydee99 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 12, 2014, 05:43:13 AM »

Ok, so I'll send you a pm about this. I really like the idea and I've been thinking about the same thing. Not with jaydee wars but something else.

Philippa · « **Reply #10 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:14:25 AM »

Okay I'm just going to assume that this is set up like Series 4 and that the first three names are Melee One, and the other three are Melee Two. Same with the Grand Final, I'll assume it's run the same way as a Heat.

HEAT A
Fluffy VS Ripper VS Darke Destroyer: Darke Destroyer would get flipped over straight away, no contest, move on.
The Grim Reaper VS Ansgar 3 VS PulverizeR: A difficult match to predict, PulverizeR is going through but it's between the other two... As disappointing as it was in Series 7, Grim Reaper would probably win.

Fluffy VS The Grim Reaper: As long as Fluffy doesn't lose signal again it would easily win.
Ripper VS PulverizeR: PulverizeR can't get at the electronics of Ripper and has a high ground clearance. Probably would get flipped out of the arena or into the Pit.

Fluffy VS Ripper: Ripper would just keep flipping until Fluffy breaks down. Fluffy can't hit the electronics either.

HEAT B
Trouble 'n' Strife VS Cataclysmic Variabot VS Scrapper: Battle of the crap robots. Scrapper would get knocked over and can't self-right.
Typhoon 2 VS Panzer VS Uglybot: Typhoon 2 would go for the tracks on Panzer and break them. Also Uglybot would do sod all but still go through.

Typhoon 2 VS Trouble 'n' Strife: Although Trouble 'n' Strife weren't bad in Series 5 they wouldn't stand a chance.
Cataclysmic Variabot VS Uglybot: You figure it out.

Typhoon 2 VS Cataclysmic Variabot: Shell Spinner + Box = Small Pieces.

HEAT C
The Spider VS SAT'arn VS Beast of Bodmin: SAT'arn was a Featherweight. Game over.
Loco VS Ewe 2 VS Scrap-2-Saur: Loco isn't invertible. Discuss.

The Spider VS Ewe 2: Ewe 2 wouldn't break, The Spider had crap weapons.
Beast of Bodmin VS Scrap-2-Saur: Again, Beast of Bodmin isn't invertible. Discuss.

Ewe 2 VS Scrap-2-Saur: Scrap-2-Saur had the better flipper.

HEAT D
Spam VS Pika 3 VS Spawn of Scutter: Difficult, none of the robots in this heat are any good. Spam would probably get ganged up on and lose by a judges decision.
BOD VS Hammerhead 2 VS Tetanus: Tetanus or BOD would get flipped. Probably Tetanus.

Pika 3 VS BOD: I really don't know, probably Pika 3.
Spawn of Scutter VS Hammerhead 2: Hammerhead maybe.

Pika 3 VS Hammerhead 2: Once again I honestly don't know, I don't see any of these matches not going to a judges decision. I think in the end Hammerhead 2 would take the decision.

HEAT E
Torque of the Devil VS Shadow of Napalm VS LizzardWhat version of Lizzard? I'll assume the first. Torque of the Devil is going nowhere in this.
Tanto VS Kat 3 VS Robot The Bruce: Kat 3 could put some good holes in Robot The Bruce, and Tanto will just keep coming back. Robot The Bruce should be eliminated.

Shadow of Napalm VS Tanto: Napalm will never achieve anything.
Lizzard VS Kat 3: I don't think Kat 3 will be able to chase Lizzard and hit it enough. Lizzard to win.

Lizzard VS Tanto: Difficult, but Lizzard would be able to get a good swipe or two at those big exposed wheels.

HEAT F
Invertabrat VS Basenji VS Corckscrew: Corkscrew was hugely underrated and never got where it should have. Basenji stants no chance whatsoever against it.
Aggrobot 3 VS Marauder VS The Revolutionist: Marauder is a middleweight. Moving on.

Invertabrat VS Aggrobot 3: Experience pays off, Aggrobot 3 would win.
Corkscrew VS The Revolutionist: Corcescrew has more durability and can self-right too if it needs it.

Aggrobot 3 VS Corkscrew Aggrobot wasn't the most reliable, and Corkscrew is pretty vicious too.

GRAND FINAL
Ripper VS Typhoon 2 VS Scrap-2-Saur: I don't think that Typhoon would be able to get up to speed in time before it would be flipped. Also it's against two opponents so that makes avoidance harder.
Hammerhead 2 VS Lizzard VS Corkscrew: Lizzard isn't invertible and the chassis isn't that strong.

Ripper VS Hammerhead 2: I can easily see this going Ripper's way.
Scrap-2-Saur VS Corkscrew: This is probably where it goes pear-shaped for Corkscrew.

3rd Place Playoff - Hammerhead 2 VS Corkscrew: Did you see what Typhoon 2 did to Hammerhead 2 in Series 7? Corkscrew all the way.

Grand Final: Ripper VS Scrap-2-Saur Ripper seems more durable and in the end it would win, judges decision or not.

GRAND CHAMPION: Ripper

There.

Jaydee99 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 12, 2014, 05:34:07 PM »

This is RA2. What you said about fluffy v ripper,
Using SR's fluffy and Wham's Ripper (S7), fluffy would keep ripping (get it!) its sides off and knock out the chassis. Believe me. It's that powerful.
TK, I'll send a PM tomorrow. Good luck with this by the way.

Philippa · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2014, 05:40:24 PM »

I was talking IRL.

But if Ripper doesn't win this then its rigged.

TK Kenta · « **Reply #13 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:26:29 PM »

Quote from: jaydee99 on August 12, 2014, 05:43:13 AM

Ok, so I'll send you a pm about this. I really like the idea and I've been thinking about the same thing. Not with jaydee wars but something else.

Okay cool, yea I've always wanted to do this myself... BTW how do I check my pms? I'm new to this site.

TK Kenta · « **Reply #14 on:** August 12, 2014, 11:35:59 PM »

And for Series 1, it's gonna have the same format as the real series one. But just changed up a little since there's nothing like the gauntlet for RA2.

Round 1:
King of the Hill:
Each robot will take a turn of where, they need to drive up to the centre. And they got to stay there as long as possible within 1 minute, while there will be some AI'd like House Bots will try to stop the robot from staying in the centre. The robot with the least amount of time staying in the centre will be eliminated.

Round 2:
FlexTop Sumo:
Pretty much the same as the normal sumo from RW, the shortest to stay in the circle within a minute will be eliminated.

Round 3:
Heat Semi Finals

Round 4:
Heat Finals

And for the Grand final. You'll have to wait and see what I have for that.

Jaydee99 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2014, 02:57:38 AM »

click the my messages box at the top. However, when you log in and you have a new message it'll say on the box "[1]" or however many new messages you have.

TK Kenta · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2014, 06:32:04 AM »

oh alright.

TK Kenta · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2014, 09:23:30 PM »

For thoughs that are wondering this is still in the works... I'm currently dealing with AI'ing which have no clue on how to do, so if any one that has experience on that, can you please help me.

I Like Tacos · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2014, 11:52:05 PM »

Try this to help you start: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=13814.0

Jaydee99 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2014, 02:04:03 AM »

I sent you a pm saying I'd do it for you.