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Offline Madiaba

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« Reply #120 on: October 05, 2008, 11:00:10 PM »
We'll see, guys.
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.........Luck rarely happens in RA2.
[/COLOR]HM, statistically luck is involved, and is an effective contributor.
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(BTW: 'Luck' is just a word that describes a situation containing some unknown variables. If all of the factors could be and were known then there would be no luck or chance. There are several unkown variables present here. When the known factors add up to imply an undesired sum, then we hope upon the unknow variables to transform the equation: 'If I get lucky...').
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« Reply #121 on: October 05, 2008, 11:01:15 PM »
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« Reply #122 on: October 05, 2008, 11:12:38 PM »
And that maxes a n-degree equation, I suppose? n being superior to 3, and the calculus becomes completely messed up?

As far as I can know, winning/losing depends of two things: AIing and building skill.

Look, I could have won vs Enfilad3 but the AI made Hazcon drive like a b**ch in the first and third round. And I think we were equally matched in terms of building skill.

I think there is a random element in RA2's AI code: you can't predict the bot's path and how it will react to the opponent, and that's why you can't really know who will win unless a big difference in bot building skill.

Even the second and third rounds of Psycho Sweeper VS Rage III were different.
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« Reply #123 on: October 05, 2008, 11:14:45 PM »
Yeah you've made your point.
I suppose luck is involved to some degree...
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« Reply #124 on: October 06, 2008, 09:22:08 AM »
Icy, I just noticed that you missed Smoker's Revenge from your list.

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« Reply #125 on: October 06, 2008, 10:21:49 AM »
Ok, I admit I'm probably wrong with most of my predictions ^_^;
With some of those robots I can't really see how it works and I don't know how fast it moves or whether I can avoid the weapons. These are just based on what I can see =P
I'll likely get owned xP
Oh yeah, and I did try rebuilding Skurge at one point, a lot smaller, weapons more concentrated, but it wasn't as effective :S
Edit: Oh, and I think I should mention that I also mostly made these predictions based on my driving skills as I have no idea how the AIed version will control

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« Reply #126 on: October 06, 2008, 11:40:48 AM »
If you're making predictions, this is how the one I entered does against Mako.



It starts at 3:35 in the video, but this is a different version of the bot. The one I sent in does not have the tail.

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« Reply #127 on: October 06, 2008, 12:54:38 PM »
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He's going to have a maximum spinup time of about 15 seconds.But at 5 seconds spinning, he'll still be very damaging.

Chained 6 Mag gearboxes spin slowly, right, but a blow of it to one of your MW's is going to send it flying. OOTA or at the other side of the arena. But T O R Q U E's spinner isn't going to be stopped by one blow, just slowed down, and the time the other multibot attacks, he'll still take a nasty blow.

If you win this match, you'll be very lucky.

BTW Giga, how does it perform against two middleweights?

After 4.6 seconds it spins up half way. Meaning that the bottom motor is at full speed and the top one begins to stop rotating. At this moment his hitting force begins to climb in terms of damage
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2/3 Times it is able to send Grog the Vengeful flying across the arena on contact once it hits full speed. Any MW at this point is obliterated. By The time it loses a hammer, its opponent is either upside down or destroyed. It's wheels are also not "Unprotected". The radius of the weapon is larger that its chassis, which fits perfectly over the components. Condor33s bots stand a very little chance if the drum bots get to it after 5 seconds. At full speed, it is probably an OOTA hit. If not, I still have a 200+ weight advantage of each bot. So they can't do much to it head on.

Not saying that they don't stand any chance however. T O U R Q U Es a little sluggish upon spinup. Just being realistic.

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« Reply #128 on: October 06, 2008, 01:31:12 PM »
I just rechecked the competitors and I noticed that I have a good chance at beating TORGUE. Why? Because Smoker's Revenges blades spin in a slightly upwards tilted direction, so if TORGUE's hammers are not high enough, the weak flipper segments will get hit before too much damage is done.

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« Reply #129 on: October 06, 2008, 01:52:45 PM »
Same here, I can normally knock those off in one or two hits, and I think that my bot is fast enough to get across the arena in 4.5 seconds.

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« Reply #130 on: October 06, 2008, 02:40:48 PM »
Ah! Ah! I'm looking forward to see your fight, Giga. It has the potential to be awesome.

One of my first DSL HWs was a chained HS, a 4 mag gearbox, then a 2 mag gearbox on it, a Whyachi tribar and 3 50Kg's on it.

It had a slow spinup time something like 7 seconds, and when spinning at full speed the tribar began to wobble and i couldn't spin it faster because if i did he Mauler danced, a hammer touching the ground, and finishing on it's back. Better was 5500 damage on a hit (but now i see that's few for a HW), but the good thing was 4WD Magmotor drive on hypno wheels. Also, crazy ant batt stacking because he was like a many sided pyramid.

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« Reply #131 on: October 06, 2008, 04:09:22 PM »
I think Lu-Tze would have a shot against Torque, just because she's obscenely fast and could chew Torque up before he got up to speed.
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« Reply #132 on: October 06, 2008, 05:10:55 PM »
hey guys. im now done with 3 videos, all edited and ready. i can give you two options. one: i post the first 6 videos, that same way click beetle separates the losers bracket and winners bracket. two: i could just finish all 11 videos, but it would take me longer.


while you're pondering that, heres another- like clickbeetle does music near the end of the tournament, i could do commentary. my computer has a mic so i can record my voice as i watch the video being filmed, like a real robot competition with a commentator. just brainstorming here guys.
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« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2008, 05:14:20 PM »
Post the first six.
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« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2008, 05:16:41 PM »
brainstorm 1- well, i think a lot of us are awaiting for the videos, so it would be cool to post the first sic.

brainstorm 2 - great idea. just don't go Robot Wars commentator.

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« Reply #135 on: October 06, 2008, 05:23:57 PM »
Go ahead and do the first 6.

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« Reply #136 on: October 06, 2008, 05:34:44 PM »
oops, meant to say first 5. it will the first half of the bracket. but all right, i will finish up the next 2. i suspect they will be done tonight :D
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« Reply #137 on: October 06, 2008, 05:37:30 PM »
I cant wait to see T O R Q U E vs. the HumDrums!

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« Reply #138 on: October 06, 2008, 05:40:00 PM »
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I cant wait to see T O R Q U E vs. the HumDrums!

neither can I! personally, based on the one test fight i did with hum drums, im pulling for the little guys :D (test fight not against TORQUE)
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« Reply #139 on: October 06, 2008, 05:43:43 PM »
"Luck rarely happens in RA2"

that made me laugh.