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Naryar · « **Reply #320 on:** June 19, 2010, 02:58:19 AM »

How exactly did you made the AI more aggressive ?

Somebody · « **Reply #321 on:** June 19, 2010, 04:06:21 PM »

And how do manage to gain 30kgs from such an airtight bot?

Pwnator · « **Reply #322 on:** June 19, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »

The new Fury used less extenders and an extremely airtight chassis (the old Fury's chassis wasn't airtight enough :P):

I cloned it 5 months ago and it took me a lot of attempts to get the chassis right.

Starcore · « **Reply #323 on:** June 20, 2010, 02:30:12 AM »

I also removed the 2nd plow and the bottom caster armor from the one that was used for this tourny. I think you would agree Pwnator, not an easy task to replicate or out do the design.

As to the more agressive AI: Was carefully tuning the AI line for maximum turn rate without overturn, minimum hazard avoidance taking into account chassis size, testing turning in vs turning out vs both spin clockwise or counter clockwise since it is an asymetrical design, considering and testing the 3 maces per extender on one spinner vs the other, reviewing various behavioral responses of Omni vs Omni Ram vs some of the other choices available vs writing new AI for the right blend of charge, pull back, clinch, and deciding if it was worth it to track the weapons numbers for switching to Pusher AI (rarely worth worrying about).

Starcore

Naryar · « **Reply #324 on:** June 20, 2010, 04:14:56 AM »

That's the sort of things i should do if i had more patience.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #325 on:** June 20, 2010, 08:26:31 AM »

yeah. its actually odd how your mr extreme efficiency and you dont play stock much (and that generally requires more efficiency then DSL)

Naryar · « **Reply #326 on:** June 20, 2010, 08:08:44 PM »

Quote from: JoeBlo on June 20, 2010, 08:26:31 AM

(and that generally requires more efficiency then DSL)

That is merely an impression because people care more about efficiency in stock.

But mr. extreme efficiency ? Real extreme efficiency is

, honestly.

First you need to know absolutely everything about the game and have mastered writing py's, then you need to fine-tune the whole bot (plus make it near perfectly symmetrical with BFE), try it against numerous bots, then rebuild it and repeat the procedure until it can beat a maximum of other bots, and all that while tweaking finely a custom py and the bindings made for the bot.

System32 · « **Reply #327 on:** June 20, 2010, 08:46:20 PM »

Save the whales does that in his sleep.

Naryar · « **Reply #328 on:** June 20, 2010, 09:00:52 PM »

No he doesn't... but he's probably the closest example to a pure efficiency builder we have on these forums.

Starcore · « **Reply #329 on:** June 21, 2010, 03:04:56 PM »

Who me or Naryar or were you referring to someome else?

I admit to doing most all of that list except BFE (I refuse to do that) and I don't know everything about the game. Locked engine makes it a game of reverse engineering and there are many nooks and crannies that have been discovered over the years.

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System32 · « **Reply #330 on:** June 21, 2010, 04:19:34 PM »

Quote from: Starcore on June 21, 2010, 03:04:56 PM

Who me or Naryar or were you referring to someome else?

I admit to doing most all of that list except BFE (I refuse to do that) and I don't know everything about the game. Locked engine makes it a game of reverse engineering and there are many nooks and crannies that have been discovered over the years.

Starcore

Some DSL builder who fought a replica against NAR AI bots and when spammed weapons, making the replica look craptastic and scoring a cheap win.

Naryar · « **Reply #331 on:** June 22, 2010, 05:02:20 AM »

Cheap wins are reserved to any weight class unbalance, fighting a flipper in the combat arena and crawlers.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #332 on:** June 22, 2010, 09:52:28 AM »

and cheat parts.. unless its in some hilarious way by using them.

but back on topic

G.K. · « **Reply #333 on:** June 22, 2010, 10:41:53 AM »

Or my evil method.... But B.O.T. guys, yeah

System32 · « **Reply #334 on:** June 22, 2010, 10:56:46 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on June 22, 2010, 05:02:20 AM

Cheap wins are reserved to any weight class unbalance, fighting a flipper in the combat arena and crawlers.

Also making a replica look totally unlike what it should be to compete.

Sage · « **Reply #335 on:** June 29, 2010, 11:58:41 AM »

Next round of loser's brackets are up!

All very good fights actually. I enjoyed watching them.

The Ounce · « **Reply #336 on:** June 29, 2010, 06:21:47 PM »

Madiaba · « **Reply #337 on:** June 29, 2010, 07:27:41 PM »

Nice job, Ounce and Pwn...
Thanks to you too, Pys, for letting me beta test using your bot.
Trov was imperative(as usual).
Special appreciation to Sage,
who...

Urjak · « **Reply #338 on:** June 29, 2010, 11:45:37 PM »

Wow....

Naryar · « **Reply #339 on:** June 30, 2010, 03:52:37 AM »