In Tandem - Idea

[G.K.]

 
  Well, I've decided that although I won't be starting it just yet, because I have to finish the arena, I may as well announce my next (And sixth) tournament. This is IN TANDEM. The basic principle of the tournament is that it is a tag team, in Stock. You will create a team of a HW bot and a MW bot. They will fight against other people's teams. The catches are these:
 
 

• Your two bots have to be the same type.
• You cannot make HS's or Popups unless you create a hybrid. In those hybrids, at least 50% of the weapon components (number, not weight) must be for the weapon system that isn't Popup or HS. An HS/Popup hybrid must have an equal number of components on the two weapon systems. Any other hybrids do not follow this restriction. Remember that both bots must be the same hybrid.

At this stage I will not be entering. Ounce has a reserved spot as a reward for winning BTTB 3 if he wants it.

Other rules:

• 16/32 man bracket depending on interest.
• All ingame glitches allowed. This includes Hax Mode under certain conditions, explained below. Regular stacking also not allowed if it falls foul of those restrictions, but fine at any other time.
• No AAM, Thyrus Glitch or Zero G. BFE forbidden except name changing and chassis shine. I will check to see if you BFE armour.
• All AI components allowed except the beta spinmotor and 140cm red extender. No custom components/cheatbot 2 parts except custom smartzones for AI'ing purposes only.
• Multibots obviously not allowed.
• Double elimination, best of 3 matches.
• I will use the In Tandem Arena - I can't tell you anything about it yet but know that it's about the same size as the Containment cube and has a middle hazard.
• Nobody can be entered until a bot is received and accepted - except Ounce.
• Upgrades are unlimited until I give a cutoff point - you can update individual bots as long as both end up staying the same type.
• 1 havok gets a restart, any more get disqualifications. 1 restart per match, not round like BTTB.

Hax Mode/Stacking Restrictions (I will check for all of this):

• You may stack unlimited amounts of batteries of the same type together. Different ones cannot be stacked together.
• You may stack a CB in any battery/battery stack.
• Motors may not be stacked together except 2 Snapper II's together or in the styles demonstrated by 090901.
• Motors may not be stacked in anything.
• Axle mounts can be stacked together, and stacked into batteries, but a maximum of 2 can be stacked together when stacked into batteries.
• Unlimited baseplate anchor stacks are allowed - if stacked in batteries you may not stack any anchors together.
• No exostacking of anything (i.e. components attached to the baseplate sticking out that aren't supposed to) except baseplate anchors. Axles (Not axle mounts) outside the chassis, and casters are fine.
• Axles can be overlapped into batteries/anchors/other motors by axle/snapper loading. Any overlapping built off a snapper/axle mount is perfectly fine.

I think that's everything. Feel free to discuss and take issue with any rules. I'll post the arena when I finish it.

 

[JoeBlo]

So when you say Tag Team you mean standard Team Match mode right?

[G.K.]

Yeah.

[Mr. AS]

What if your bot uses Sage's skin pack? Will it be allowed?

[G.K.]

No, but I can BFE the normal components on for you.

[Avalanche]

Could you team with someone and one does the lw and one does the HW?

[G.K.]

I'd rather not - I'll see how it's panning out when entries come in.

[NFX]

If it's a normal tag team match, I'd say the LW was cannon fodder. But this sounds like quite an interesting idea.

[G.K.]

If it's a normal tag team match, I'd say the LW was cannon fodder. But this sounds like quite an interesting idea.

I don't get you.

[NFX]

If it's a normal tag team match, I'd say the LW was cannon fodder. But this sounds like quite an interesting idea.

I don't get you.

If it's a LW/HW Tag Team against a LW/HW Tag Team in a 2-on-2 match, then the LW will be destroyed pretty quickly by the HW on the opposite team. Unless the HW is particularly fail.

[G.K.]

It is a normal tag team match. I've arranged the arena so the bots of the same weightclass will pair off.

[NFX]

Ah, so it's like two seperate matches going on at the same time, with a dividing wall in the middle? I think I understand, that should work. What would happen if the opposing HW was closer to the LW, and it kept driving into the wall to try and get to it, exposing itself for an attack by the opposing LW?

[G.K.]

There's no wall, I've just arranged the start points in such a way that the bots will pair off with the bot of the same weightclass first.

[JoeBlo]

I have to agree, the LW's arnt going to be a big enough game changer the HW's should clean them up fairly easy, load up a HW SnS and you wouldnt have a worry about the opposing LW at all..

[nightcracker]

I can legally exostack snapperII's and baseplate anchors, is it still illegal?

[NFX]

I think he's got the same views as I have about HW vs. LW scenarios.

However, the idea I had once I'd read through it is if you build a LW, MW and HW for your team, then have a series of three Single Matches where the same weight classes pair off, and whoever wins 2 out of the 3 battles advances.

[G.K.]

  I can legally exostack snapperII's and baseplate anchors, is it still illegal?
 

 
  Nothing is final yet. I'm thinking about it.

I have to agree, the LW's arnt going to be a big enough game changer the HW's should clean them up fairly easy, load up a HW SnS and you wouldnt have a worry about the opposing LW at all..

In that case, I'm going to propose 2 possible altertions.

Either a team of a Cruiserweight and a 300kg bot or a HW and a MW.

[G.K.]

DP:

I think he's got the same views as I have about HW vs. LW scenarios.

However, the idea I had once I'd read through it is if you build a LW, MW and HW for your team, then have a series of three Single Matches where the same weight classes pair off, and whoever wins 2 out of the 3 battles advances.

I'm pretty sure someone did that already - see my previous post for possible ways round it.

I added the poll for that.

[Fracture]

Soooo...no combining the two into a 1049.9 kg superduperweight?

[G.K.]

no