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Title: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 09:47:17 AM
 
  Well, I've decided that although I won't be starting it just yet, because I have to finish the arena, I may as well announce my next (And sixth) tournament. This is IN TANDEM. The basic principle of the tournament is that it is a tag team, in Stock. You will create a team of a HW bot and a MW bot. They will fight against other people's teams. The catches are these:
 
  At this stage I will not be entering. Ounce has a reserved spot as a reward for winning BTTB 3 if he wants it.

Other rules:
Hax Mode/Stacking Restrictions (I will check for all of this):

I think that's everything. Feel free to discuss and take issue with any rules. I'll post the arena when I finish it.

 
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 04, 2011, 09:51:34 AM
So when you say Tag Team you mean standard Team Match mode right?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 09:52:15 AM
Yeah.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Mr. AS on September 04, 2011, 09:53:03 AM
What if your bot uses Sage's skin pack? Will it be allowed?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
No, but I can BFE the normal components on for you.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Avalanche on September 04, 2011, 10:00:31 AM
Could you team with someone and one does the lw and one does the HW?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 10:01:07 AM
I'd rather not - I'll see how it's panning out when entries come in.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: NFX on September 04, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
If it's a normal tag team match, I'd say the LW was cannon fodder. But this sounds like quite an interesting idea.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 10:34:09 AM
If it's a normal tag team match, I'd say the LW was cannon fodder. But this sounds like quite an interesting idea.

I don't get you.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: NFX on September 04, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
If it's a normal tag team match, I'd say the LW was cannon fodder. But this sounds like quite an interesting idea.

I don't get you.

If it's a LW/HW Tag Team against a LW/HW Tag Team in a 2-on-2 match, then the LW will be destroyed pretty quickly by the HW on the opposite team. Unless the HW is particularly fail.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 10:53:25 AM
It is a normal tag team match. I've arranged the arena so the bots of the same weightclass will pair off.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: NFX on September 04, 2011, 10:54:54 AM
Ah, so it's like two seperate matches going on at the same time, with a dividing wall in the middle? I think I understand, that should work. What would happen if the opposing HW was closer to the LW, and it kept driving into the wall to try and get to it, exposing itself for an attack by the opposing LW?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 10:56:33 AM
There's no wall, I've just arranged the start points in such a way that the bots will pair off with the bot of the same weightclass first.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 04, 2011, 10:58:26 AM
I have to agree, the LW's arnt going to be a big enough game changer the HW's should clean them up fairly easy, load up a HW SnS and you wouldnt have a worry about the opposing LW at all..
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: nightcracker on September 04, 2011, 11:05:14 AM
I can legally exostack snapperII's and baseplate anchors, is it still illegal?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: NFX on September 04, 2011, 11:05:20 AM
I think he's got the same views as I have about HW vs. LW scenarios.

However, the idea I had once I'd read through it is if you build a LW, MW and HW for your team, then have a series of three Single Matches where the same weight classes pair off, and whoever wins 2 out of the 3 battles advances.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 11:06:34 AM
  I can legally exostack snapperII's and baseplate anchors, is it still illegal?
 
 
  Nothing is final yet. I'm thinking about it.

I have to agree, the LW's arnt going to be a big enough game changer the HW's should clean them up fairly easy, load up a HW SnS and you wouldnt have a worry about the opposing LW at all..

In that case, I'm going to propose 2 possible altertions.

Either a team of a Cruiserweight and a 300kg bot or a HW and a MW.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 11:07:14 AM
DP:

I think he's got the same views as I have about HW vs. LW scenarios.

However, the idea I had once I'd read through it is if you build a LW, MW and HW for your team, then have a series of three Single Matches where the same weight classes pair off, and whoever wins 2 out of the 3 battles advances.

I'm pretty sure someone did that already - see my previous post for possible ways round it.

I added the poll for that.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Fracture on September 04, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
Soooo...no combining the two into a 1049.9 kg superduperweight?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 11:31:56 AM
no
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: 090901 on September 04, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
what about rad stacks and snapper2 stacks like this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14897itry.png)
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
I know it's possible but I don't think i'll allow it.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: 090901 on September 04, 2011, 02:38:13 PM
I know it's possible but I don't think i'll allow it.
it's really easy though D:
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 02:39:47 PM
What are you going to do with those stacks anyway?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: smashysmashy on September 04, 2011, 05:01:26 PM
What are you going to do with those stacks anyway?

I... don't...know...

Doesn't look at all effective, does it?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Virus Bomb on September 04, 2011, 05:12:26 PM
What are you going to do with those stacks anyway?


he could make lw side hammers and fses
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 05:39:29 PM
I've made a few little changes to the stacking rules.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Enigm@ on September 04, 2011, 05:47:27 PM
Ooh, goodie, a tourney that's not gonna be a popup hs-fest
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
I feel they would steam-roller this.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Enigm@ on September 04, 2011, 05:56:06 PM
I wouldn't enter one anyway. I'mma probably enter a hw wammer, and a something for the lighter class. (depending on what it turns out to being)
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 04, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
A Wammer, obviously...
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: That Robot is a Spy! on September 04, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
I could try a Rammer Hammer combo.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 04, 2011, 11:28:14 PM
I think you need to stay within 1 weightclass of each other. LW and MW or HW and MW. 300kg/ CW wont work as well as MW/HW. MW is about the limit without being fodder.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 05, 2011, 03:13:58 AM
I think I'd agree with you.

I've changed it to that now.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 05, 2011, 04:02:14 AM
Cool.. I was going to join anyway :P

Now to put my awesome plan into action (if you dont release the arena prior to the tournament I may need to ask special permission to have access for it for the purposes of AI.. )  ;)
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Badnik96 on September 05, 2011, 04:13:13 AM
i hate hw but whatever

will likely send Quote and one of my VS for this, but you never know.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 05, 2011, 03:57:10 PM
I might enter now it's this weightclass.

Arena is moving into final stages. I only need to figure out how to add a hazard and add the logo to the floor skin.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 07, 2011, 04:02:03 PM
I've not quite finished the Hazard, but enough is ready to show the arena.

This is the In Tandem arena, the second one I have made:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62324Intandempt1.png)

It isn't as fancy as an arena Click or Joe makes, but it is new all the same.

First as reference, here are the start positions:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73268intandempt2.png)

Also, as you can see, the walls are of a decent height. Only flippers, good VS and maybe some hybrids will be able to achieve OOTA's consistently.

If you're wondering what the hazards in the middle are, here's a close up.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57219intandempt3.png)

Unfortunately the picture didn't come out too well. They don't appear to be much more than gimmicks, but believe me, you don't want to hit 'em  -for the hazard that I have yet to finish will not be forgiving.

Floor Dimensions are 15x15, walls 2 high (I think) - if anyone needs any more info or really needs the arena, feel free to ask.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: Enigm@ on September 07, 2011, 04:11:04 PM
noice ! would this arena be open for downloading for testing for people entering ?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 07, 2011, 04:11:54 PM
Once I finish the hazard, quite possibly.
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 08, 2011, 11:49:48 PM
Just a question that I'm not sure was addressed already, but how are you going to classify SnS with horizontally spinning weaponry (like SnSnS)? Do they count as HS, or are they SnS and therefore do not need to abide by the no-HS rule?
Title: Re: In Tandem - Idea
Post by: G.K. on September 09, 2011, 10:39:29 AM
Good point. I'd say that would class as an HS - way around that is make some of the weapons static.