Friendship/Rival Rumble - SBV

[Mr. AS]

For the record, I threw it together in something like 15 minutes specifically to counter Geice's poker. But hey, I'm fine with it basically being an aggro target while Geice backdoors the opponent.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I'm wondering how easy it is to raise the elimination region in the arena. Then again there's no reason why a bot that can't be eliminated should be illegal if the rules did not specify. Where exactly does it get stuck? It seems pretty silly to allow a bot to survive when fully out of the designated fighting region.

[Thrackerzod]

Then it can just drive around down there.  It can drive under the arena too - there's no collision on the walls since bots aren't supposed to be there.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I would count that as an arena bug tbh. I believe my not would do the same thing if it landed correctly.

[Thrackerzod]

Sorry for taking so long to get back to this.  Seems like the general consensus is to just record the match anyway, so I'll do that later today unless anyone has any better ideas.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I don't do modding but shouldn't it be quite easy to raise the elimination zone up a bit?

[yugitom]

I highly advise not editing the arena at this time ('this time' being after matches have already been conducted.) You'd be changing the way certain robots perform (I.e. Mr AS's bot) and you'd be changing the rules without permission. By all means, if you think you can make the case to change the arena, make the case.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I highly advise not editing the arena at this time ('this time' being after matches have already been conducted.) You'd be changing the way certain robots perform (I.e. Mr AS's bot) and you'd be changing the rules without permission. By all means, if you think you can make the case to change the arena, make the case.

I'd consider it fixing an arena bug rather than changing the rules.
I feel like it's an implied rule that bots are eliminated when they exit the arena.

Obviously you run this stuff so I'll defer to your judgement. Can't wait to see how derpy the match ends up.

[Thrackerzod]

I don't do modding but shouldn't it be quite easy to raise the elimination zone up a bit?

You would think, but when I was looking at the arena file earlier (to change out the start points), I didn't notice anything clearly labeled "kill_zone" or whatever.  (The start points were labeled "startpoint" or something like that, so those were easy to swap.)

Yugi makes a good point though.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I don't do modding but shouldn't it be quite easy to raise the elimination zone up a bit?

You would think, but when I was looking at the arena file earlier (to change out the start points), I didn't notice anything clearly labeled "kill_zone" or whatever.  (The start points were labeled "startpoint" or something like that, so those were easy to swap.)

Code: [Select]

def Tick(self):
        for each in self.players:
            if plus.getLocation(each)[1] < 1.5:
                plus.eliminatePlayer(each)Just increase the 1.5 to some higher value.

We can do a grudge match with the fixed arena if you don't want to change it now.

[yugitom]

I feel like it's an implied rule that bots are eliminated when they exit the arena.

Not really. The 'rules' for when a robot should be eliminated are inherent in the arena itself. It's just what the arena does and doesn't allow. If Mr AS (or anyone building a robot) built their bot with the specific arena-out zone in mind, it would completely undermine their design. I know that, in this case, Mr AS didn't intend for that (even though he doesn't mind the unintentional result) but if I were to apply this to a future tournament with a similar problem, any given bot builder could have built their bot with the intention of interacting with the arena, so I'll try to keep my decisions consistent.

[Thrackerzod]

Update: I've spent about an hour trying to record this match.  I have one usable round so far.

EDIT: Scratch that, zero usable rounds.  This one is too havoky.

[Thrackerzod]

I'm really sorry about the delay on this episode.  Between real life, havoks, and game crashes, it was a bit of a pain.  But, here it is:

A8ER got destroyed AND eliminated in the third round.  Ouch.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

Wow, that was even more derpy than I thought it would be.

[RedAce]

I would like to thank S_M for carrying us through that match.

[Naryar]

Wow, this was derp. But amusingly so.

Then again, a TRFBD, a flamethrower flying guillotine, a clamp (which was the bot I was rooting for) and a poker in an OOTA arena is guaranteed to be funny.

[Thrackerzod]

Here it is!  The final match!



We're not quite done with this tournament yet, though.  I've got a couple of bonus episodes I want to put together for y'all.  Stay tuned for those!

[RedAce]

Oh hey.  An update when I'm not asleep.  Yay.

Damn.  That was a close battle.  And, I kinda screwed myself over by flipping Carbon Dragon out of the arena (twice).  Ah well. 2nd (or 3rd I guess in this case) is pretty good for a clamp and a flying guillotine.  Good game guys.

Great job with the tournament Thrack.  Good job with the editing.  Honestly, I would've stuck with the Finale music for the true final battle (especially with the intro transition), but Megalovania is fine with me as well.

[Bobyasianboy]

Oh sh**, I really wasn't expecting to win at all. Gauche pretty much carried me through the majority of the team matches so I was really surprised to win in the end.

Great tournament Thrack, definitely one of the most entertaining I've watched.

[yugitom]

Great tournament Thrack, definitely one of the most entertaining I've watched.

Definitely this. The quality of the robots was really high compared to some of the later tournaments, for some reason.