i'm going to be the party pooper :That's the whole point of the gimmick.
-we kinda built partly to counter the opposite bot type, now we are supposed to fight with them ? this invalidates quite a bit of our building
-this has always been a rival thing, now it's just changed completely without asking peopleIf he asked people, the gimmick would have been spoiled.
-i fully understand that this robot behavior problem is a real problem and it needs to be fixed (i do not mind changes when they are necessary) but then change the arena to something similar that doesn't have the rushing problem, not the whole gimmick. And ask entrants for ideas if you change the arena : they're the ones concerned about this.I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. He didn't change the gimmick on a whim, it was planned. All he did was change the starting points to better suit tag matches. He didn't change the gimmick based on rushing because there would have only been two robots fighting each other, anyway.
-it's changed at the last minute when everyone entered their bots which makes it infuriating.Again, the whole point of the tournament.
why didn't you tell me i could've fixed the arena skin so it matched the new logo
Then why is it still called Rival rumble in the SBV
Thanks yugi, you explained that way better than I would have. But I would like to again point out that the "surprise change" had indeed been planned out since Day 1 of the tournament.No problem :)
Yugi did a great job encouraging discussion without giving away the twist in the signups thread, by the way. Thanks dude!
Who Needs Research: Anyways, this will be entertaining to watch.
Thanks yugi, you explained that way better than I would have. But I would like to again point out that the "surprise change" had indeed been planned out since Day 1 of the tournament.No problem :)
Yugi did a great job encouraging discussion without giving away the twist in the signups thread, by the way. Thanks dude!
Just noticed those team names, too. I'm loving them, haha.
You didn't have to build a stilt bot for a rumble. :/
Can we talk about the photoshop for the teams at the end though?[/spoiler]I didn't even notice that but that's a really nice touch!
Yeah, sorry about that. :/You didn't have to build a stilt bot for a rumble. :/
Is that music from OFF I hear?
Yeah I'd just copy one of the TRFBDs in 123AI's binding lines, see if that stops it from being retarded.
Oh and nice avatar of S_M and I. Pretty creative, and I was scared originally considering what the others looked like.
I highly advise not editing the arena at this time ('this time' being after matches have already been conducted.) You'd be changing the way certain robots perform (I.e. Mr AS's bot) and you'd be changing the rules without permission. By all means, if you think you can make the case to change the arena, make the case.I'd consider it fixing an arena bug rather than changing the rules.
I don't do modding but shouldn't it be quite easy to raise the elimination zone up a bit?
I don't do modding but shouldn't it be quite easy to raise the elimination zone up a bit?
You would think, but when I was looking at the arena file earlier (to change out the start points), I didn't notice anything clearly labeled "kill_zone" or whatever. (The start points were labeled "startpoint" or something like that, so those were easy to swap.)
def Tick(self):
for each in self.players:
if plus.getLocation(each)[1] < 1.5:
plus.eliminatePlayer(each)Just increase the 1.5 to some higher value.I feel like it's an implied rule that bots are eliminated when they exit the arena.Not really. The 'rules' for when a robot should be eliminated are inherent in the arena itself. It's just what the arena does and doesn't allow. If Mr AS (or anyone building a robot) built their bot with the specific arena-out zone in mind, it would completely undermine their design. I know that, in this case, Mr AS didn't intend for that (even though he doesn't mind the unintentional result) but if I were to apply this to a future tournament with a similar problem, any given bot builder could have built their bot with the intention of interacting with the arena, so I'll try to keep my decisions consistent.
Great tournament Thrack, definitely one of the most entertaining I've watched.Definitely this. The quality of the robots was really high compared to some of the later tournaments, for some reason.
requesting a 4 way rumble with my bots, except with the starting points outside the arenaUhh.....
A match between the 2 chicken drills would be great
Clamp rumble. I'd pay to see that.
requesting a 4 way rumble with my bots, except with the starting points outside the arena
Honestly surprised I won thought for sure Night Man would outwedge me which he did but my bot seemed to get setup to the side enough to slide under multiple bots with rack based systems. Thank you for hosting this tournament thrack hope for more these were fun. PS who said a 5x hybrid wouldn't work lol.
A match between the 2 chicken drills would be great
Clamp rumble. I'd pay to see that.
Can I have the final done as a rematch once with me and no RedAce, and once with RedAce and not me?
Last but not least id like to see if my design could handle carbon dragon i believe my design is one of the few that can damage it directly
Mr. AS was wondering what the finale would have been like with only his bot, or only RedAce's bot competing.
Mr. AS
QuoteMr. AS was wondering what the finale would have been like with only his bot, or only RedAce's bot competing.QuoteMr. AS
...Ahem, thanks for these, dude.
ps pls send your bot for our challenge
If you're still doing bonus matches can you do my bot vs Blade Assault?