Author Topic: ELBITE Super Tournament - Ideas and discussion (Read 35235 times)

Gigafrost · « **Reply #140 on:** October 21, 2008, 07:08:49 PM »

By "parts" I am referring to the parts which are placed on the baseplate (like the other bots, anchors for example). They CAN NOT be moved.

Reier · « **Reply #141 on:** October 22, 2008, 04:26:26 PM »

Sent in my entry. Fear it! :icon_twisted:

Sage · « **Reply #142 on:** October 22, 2008, 06:52:01 PM »

im gonna enter.

H@zm47 · « **Reply #143 on:** October 23, 2008, 07:00:15 AM »

Reier, You still have more than two months to send in your entry. Why so quick? I've almost finished mine though so I suppose I can't talk...

MetalikVyper · « **Reply #144 on:** October 24, 2008, 02:55:15 PM »

since when did i send in bots? i think theres an error there giga i haven't sent mine in yet!

Gigafrost · « **Reply #145 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:12:02 PM »

Oops must have thought of the LU entry.

c.h.a.n.g.e.d

Naryar · « **Reply #146 on:** October 28, 2008, 06:24:09 AM »

Giga i have two questions:

-Can you make an AIed bot to ignore all arena hazards and is it legal to enter it?

-If I want to use a multibot (let's say in only one of the tournaments, and two middles in the others), all the bots (four at max) must have the same chassis, the two MW bots must have the same baseplate setup, but the multibots baseplate setup can be anything else?

Gigafrost · « **Reply #147 on:** October 28, 2008, 11:24:07 AM »

1- Yes it's possible (mad correct me if I'm wrong). I will indeed count it as legal as well. As long as it abides with the other rules I previously posted.

2- I am going to have to say that that would be illegal. Remember that Multibots count only as one bot. Hence, they MUST be together in every tournament; otherwise it would be like entering half of a bot. Since the rules state that you can only enter one bot with 3 different alterations, those alterations only apply to the multibots. Any other bots that you wanted to enter in the other tournament would not qualify, as they would count as a completely different bot. This is despite the fact that they have the same chassis and setup.

WhamettNuht · « **Reply #148 on:** October 28, 2008, 12:48:16 PM »

I think that multibots shouldnt be alowd.
Lets face it, on tabletop its 1 pusher vs 2 pushers, so you could be pushing 1 of them, then the other comes along ans knocks you off, no fair!
If they're about the size of a lightweight, or 2 small bots that make the size of a middleweight, then that would be ok.

Naryar · « **Reply #149 on:** October 28, 2008, 01:20:51 PM »

Wham that's funny because the "no fair thing" is exactly what i plan to enter.

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Giga, that means you have to get EXACTLY the same chassis setup in all of your entered bots (the middleweight(s) and the multibots), amirite?

Also,if you use a multibot in a non-KotH, are you forced to use a multibot in the other non-KotH tournament?

man manu · « **Reply #150 on:** October 28, 2008, 02:03:10 PM »

you put the thing in the " " 's

Somebody · « **Reply #151 on:** October 28, 2008, 04:29:03 PM »

If the TT and KoTh matches are 4 bots each, how will you put in a multibot without it trying to kill each other.

Reier · « **Reply #152 on:** October 28, 2008, 04:41:01 PM »

How are you even going to make them fight on the same side on the TT & KotH?

Naryar · « **Reply #153 on:** October 28, 2008, 04:50:08 PM »

No, only the KotH is going to be a four bot rumble. Tabletop is one on one.

Reier: it can be done by modding the clawtop's main .py file, by adding 'TEAM MATCH' to the types of game, and you can play a team match on a tabletop. My Claw Top is already a Team Match arena too.

Somebody · « **Reply #154 on:** October 28, 2008, 04:56:57 PM »

There still won't be 4 bots.

Madiaba · « **Reply #155 on:** October 28, 2008, 05:12:13 PM »

Quote from: Naryar;19011

Giga.... Can you make an AIed bot to ignore all arena hazards....?

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Quote from: Gigafrost;19035

1- Yes it's possible (mad correct me if I'm wrong). I will indeed count it as legal as well. As long as it abides with the other rules I previously posted.

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Yes, there's coding in the arenas that enables the bots to avoid hazards and floor edges. It's only a deterrant not a preventitive. And yes one could mod/tailor it.

Urjak · « **Reply #156 on:** October 28, 2008, 05:22:55 PM »

It seems that on tabletops, there is a certain randomness to who survives. This seems mainly do to the AI, especially visiible when you ram a robot off the edge, and the AI doesn't stop it as fast as it could. Thus, having two bots would make it more likely not to fall off.

Somebody · « **Reply #157 on:** October 28, 2008, 07:31:42 PM »

But there still would not be 4 competitors in the battle.

Naryar · « **Reply #158 on:** October 28, 2008, 07:50:00 PM »

Quote from: Somebody;19104

But there still would not be 4 competitors in the battle.

Read the darn rules!

But a multibot can't compete on the KotH of course.

As said before, a multibot is considered as only one bot.

Gigafrost · « **Reply #159 on:** October 28, 2008, 08:06:02 PM »

Clarifying for everyone (and thanks for the help Mad): -sigh- As I said countless times, and this time I will put the text in red and bulleted for memorization:

If you are entering a multibot

-You can only submit your 1 multibot; the complete set of two identical LWs.

-You cannot submit any other bots than that complete set unless it's an alteration (weapons are only changed).

- NO extra MW will qualify if you already submitted a complete set. Even if it's identical. It makes things confusing.

@ Somebody & Reir - Why does the multibots rule seem unfair to either of you? You had no issues with a multibot entrant in BBEANS when my bot TOURQUE had to fight it.... My rule still stands, there will be multibots in the tournament. They both are practically LWs and remember, if one is thrown off, they both are out, despite the conditions.

It really isn't that complicated guys.

As for what a multibot can and cannot compete in is my issue. I am not using the stock TT, meaning that it will be configured to allow multibots to function properly (if there is any problems with such). True, the TT is a 1 on 1 match indeed. I will simply enter the extra bot to battle.