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CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« on: June 02, 2013, 07:07:40 AM »


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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 08:18:11 AM »
Sorry to be a party breaker, but there is a problem with this tournament.
First, I wanted to enter with the 1WD "cheapatron 2000", but Jonzu deny and added the "2 powered wheels" rule.
Then, I had to made another bot, with a 2 powered wheels this time = AW-Shiny.
Now, I see that Jonzu removed the "2WD" rule from the OP yestarday, and even alowed Badnik96 to enter with a 1 wheel spinner.
Probably Jonzu don't want to reject Badnik96's entry, and he changed the rule secretly, but I'm on my watch to save the day  :smile:
Sorry Badnik96, but... Jonzu, what the heck man?
Don't make a double standart, 1WD is a huge advantage, fix this somehow, it's unfair this way.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2013, 01:01:00 PM by Trovaner »

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 08:35:14 AM »
TeslaSpark = Solid design but that long exposed side could be a problem in a battle royal match.

Spiiiiiiiiral = Cheap  :rage !!! J/K..sorta but if a rammer gets a hit on the front or back it might not last long. Also small arena with 2-3 other bots doesn't leave a lot of room for a SnS.

Ugly Duckling = I chose this bot because I figured it would stand the best chance in a battle royal environment considering it's spinning weapon provides attack at most angles and protects the sides most of the time and even the back a little bit some of the time.

Mosquito =  :SFTW , Not too bad for a newbie though. Should be easily outweaponed by most bots.

WhyNotZtek = One of the most unique bots here. I'm wondering if it has 1 or 2 pinks, if it has 1 then the weapon motor won't get to full speed making the use of the Ztek pointless but if it has 2 pinks then it could do OK, having 1 razor and an exposed motor will make it a bit of a glass cannon though.

Tiny Titan = A nifty powered AW with 2 Maces? Should do well as long as no bot gets a lucky hit on that T extender.

Stinky Weezleteets = Most unique bot probably, are the razors on an axle? it looks like they are and if so it could be a dark horse.

BWPA = Solid design, generic but should do well.

Shiny = A bot with 2 axe heads? So it's like Zombie but with less protection? Am I missing something here? It's an OK bot but I expected something more from Venko.

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I also thought there was a 2 wheel drive rule. If what Venko says is true then Badnik should have to change his entry.
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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 08:43:22 AM »
Venko, I removed the 2-wheel rule many weeks ago, because I thought it would help to get more entries.

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2013, 09:01:28 AM »
The million dollar question, Jonzu, is did you remove it at any point during signups?

I hate to side with my arch nemesis, but he might have a point.

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 09:16:12 AM »
WhyNotZtek = One of the most unique bots here. I'm wondering if it has 1 or 2 pinks, if it has 1 then the weapon motor won't get to full speed making the use of the Ztek pointless but if it has 2 pinks then it could do OK, having 1 razor and an exposed motor will make it a bit of a glass cannon though.

Nah, it only has one pink, and plastic armour. I only made it as an experiment to see if I could make an AW with a Ztek. It worked, but the end result is terrible, it will go out in its first match with little to no trouble due to the fact that a few of good rams from anything will remove the motor. I'm not sure the AI will stop it spinning when the bot is out of range, if not, then it will move incredibly slowly, thus making it even weaker. But, as an experiment, it worked. Just like my experiment to make a HW out of an AW chassis. Unless it gets very very lucky, it'll be out in no time at all. But at least it was quite fun making it, and shaving pixels off of the chassis to reduce weight.
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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 09:18:15 AM »
The million dollar question, Jonzu, is did you remove it at any point during signups?

I hate to side with my arch nemesis, but he might have a point.
I actually don't remember...

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 10:46:38 AM »
Fine if you guys really care about this then I'll pull out.

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 10:51:27 AM »
Fine if you guys really care about this then I'll pull out.
No.

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2013, 06:28:23 PM »
Signups are now officially open.
The signups are open from THAT^ date. Which means, that Jonzu changed the rules drastically during the signups.
The problem is, that even if this change was a long time ago and we had the chance to re-enter, this happened secretly, without a post to tell us that the rules changed, if I saw this earlier I wouldn't entered with Shiny.
I'm NOT complainin' about Badnik96's entry, his bot is not THAT dangerous even with 1WD, he should be alowed to change his entry if Jonzu decide to fix that, but don't ban him from the tournament, cos he don't have a fault about that.
I'm complainin' about me not entering with this :
Cheapatron 2000
« Last Edit: June 03, 2013, 01:03:47 PM by Trovaner »

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2013, 06:35:54 PM »
I really CBA to make another ant so if Jonzu changes the rules then I'm dropping out

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2013, 10:19:38 PM »
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Mosquito =Not too bad for a newbie though. Should be easily outweaponed by most bots.

It does have an advantage though.

It has aluminum armor  :gawe:
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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2013, 10:23:50 PM »
Now, I see that Jonzu removed the "2WD" rule from the OP yestarday
He actually removed it a couple weeks/days ago. But yeah, Jonzu I think you should give people like 3 days to send in bots if they didn't because they thought their bot wasn't allowed.

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2013, 10:28:22 PM »
I thought you couldn't change the rules once the tournament went to signups, there used to be a "these are the rules and they cannot be changed" post:


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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2013, 10:30:28 PM »
I thought you couldn't change the rules once the tournament went to signups
If I'm not mistaken he changed the rule to disallow 1wd bots after signups began.

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2013, 10:48:17 PM »
I thought you couldn't change the rules once the tournament went to signups
If I'm not mistaken he changed the rule to disallow 1wd bots after signups began.
Which if I'm right, would be against the rules. Any change is wrong especially one this big.
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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 04:29:58 AM »
Well, i barely have anything to say. I'm not Going to disqualify anyone. And Like i said, i don't remember did i change the rule before or after the signups opened.

Offline Venko

Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 07:26:45 AM »
*crowd booing*
I'm 100% sure, that you changed the rule during the signups, trust me, I'm a "tournament rules nazi". I wanted badly to enter with C2000, but your rule stoped me.
But the biggest problem here is :
Where is your post to inform us of such a drastic rule change during the signups? So you don't have a excuse like "I changed it weeks ago, you all had enought time to change your entry".

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 07:42:58 AM »
I agree with 090901 here. A week or so grace period for people to send in 1wd robots if so desired would stop Badnik being screwed over and give Venko a chance to send his. Everyone wins!

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Re: CombatAnts 3 - Splash, Brackets & Videos
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 07:44:20 AM »
Well what I should do then? I'm open for suggestions.