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« Reply #400 on: April 12, 2009, 06:12:53 PM »
I'll do mine in segments.

Top five IMO:
Absolute Chaos
Heaven's Sawmill
Bounty Hunter
Bumble Bee
Cocytus IV


Magnum: It looks scary but I doubt it'll go far.

AC: One of the best in this tournament IMO. Could be beaten by one of these popups, though.

Acupuncture: A decent rammer, it'll get a few nice matches.

AntiC V.Pincer: Unless those Weapons are attached to two burst motors creating a clamp effect, it'll fail. (am I correct?)

Black Cat: Decent VS, but it'll lose against some of the other bots.

Blood Shed: Another nice rammer, It'll do great against most of the competitors.

Bounty Hunter: He's in my top five. Possible Rumble participant.

Bumble Bee: The only Anti Popup here IMO. This'll prove to be a nice one to watch.

Cheronobyl: This bot will either be a disaster, or cause the opposition to "Meltdown".

Cocytus IV: NWB update, This bot smells fear, and feeds off it.

Consonant/Vowel: My bots. I expect Consonant to die first, but Vowel is the main problem.

Copyright Infringement: Nasty HS, I like the way it looks. It'll not get too far, but it'll look decent.
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« Reply #401 on: April 12, 2009, 06:13:04 PM »
As long as a popup gets to Dark July, Generic Rammer, or Cardiac Arrest before I get to one of them, I am very confident. Only Venko and Starcore have HSerz I think could compete with AC*.

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« Reply #402 on: April 12, 2009, 06:14:06 PM »
Damn. More VS and Jugglers than i thought there would be. In this low walled arena, I WILL lose to those types of bots. (Cept the crappy ones)
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« Reply #403 on: April 12, 2009, 06:19:57 PM »
I Just noticed there were five bots in a row. LOL!
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« Reply #404 on: April 12, 2009, 06:41:51 PM »
I'm proud to have entered the only robot with samurai swords.
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« Reply #405 on: April 12, 2009, 06:51:41 PM »
I don't like my chances. One good thing is that i don't see a single hint of caster armor excepted for me and Pysc... and no belly caster armor.
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« Reply #406 on: April 12, 2009, 07:09:56 PM »
Bots I forgot:

Big Flip's revenge: I'd like to fight them. Will do well against the hordes of SFTW's, until it gets to the good bots.

Cardiac arrest: Inf has worries about this bot. I have worries about which member of the audience it'll hit when it faces a wedged popup.

Crawl through knives: I'd rather not. I like it.

Back to the brackets:

Dark July: Cardiac Arrest with Grannies and a possibly weaker drive.

Death Dealer: Not a good HS. I expect it to lose after the first match.

DGSG/IDRODI: Best multibot IMO. I'd like to battle these bots in the brackets.

Metal Boi: Robloxstar from Youtube's bot? This'll be fun to watch.

Gears your lever: Main Menu's Main mistake: It's not invertible.

Generic Rammer: Another Rammer. These are getting annoying. It'll go as far as most others though.

grinnin face: My pal's bot. onr minute after me showing him stuff. Cola was a bad Idea...

Gut ripper 2: Stacking weapons fail.

Heven's Sawmill: Gulp.

Hellbringer: It'll do nicely against HS, but popups, IDK.
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« Reply #407 on: April 12, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »
I'll rape all these rammers, wedgeless bots and weak hs. A Pop-up or HS I guarentee is what is going to knock me out.

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« Reply #408 on: April 12, 2009, 07:42:30 PM »
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« Reply #409 on: April 12, 2009, 07:52:12 PM »
45-70 Magnum - Good all round bot here and should expect nothing less from the #1 ranked competitor... I don't see many weaknesses here, this bot will go far.
Absolute chaos - 1st of the hugely stack horizontal spinners, INF is ranked 5 in BBEANS so this bot should go far.. however some certain robots could cause it a few problems.
Acupunture - looks ok, invertible from what i can see and has a wedge.. it may not have enough weapons to be a threat to most others.
Anti-christ V.Pincer - that damn ant bot that Havoks and stuff! it's stronger then it looks, the wedges are to stop rammers and other HS's weapons. should go ok.
Big Flip's Revenge - could 2 pop-ups be better then 1? for some reason i like this entry and i believe it could get at least 1 win and is probably one of the better of the multi-bot entries.
Black Cat Magic - an interesting robot... i think there is more then just those 2 spinning weapons and wedge.. possibly a flipper or popup/VS hybrid? if it is.. it could do pretty well.
Blood Shed - the weapons used on this rammer aren't as effective as they could be, will be lucky to win a match imo.
Bounty Hunter - looks very well built as you would expect from Pyscolone, this bot will go far.
Bumble Bee - the Anti pop-up... should do well but i question it's stability and control with the low arena walls it might get bumped into orbit by a fast rammer or sent into orbit from a VS, it might go far depending on the draw.
Cardiac Arrest - looks like the best rammer here, could cause real problems for HS's. capable of getting a couple of wins imo.. unless it faces something with a wedge.
Chernobyl - another stacked HS, capable of getting a few wins.
Cocytus IV - an upgraded NWB will cause problems for most robots, this robot should go far and possibly finish top 4.
Consonant/Vowel - another multi-bot.. not really sure how this entry will fair, i'm thinking it could go ok and might get a win.
Copyright Infringement - Stacked HS, will go ok depending on the draw and i'm not sure how it will far against some of the other HS's.
Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - another juggler and looks pretty well built, one of the best rookie entries i see and will probably get the award for best rookie.
Dark July - lots of weapons but it's gonna be slow and easy to get under for most, not that great but could get a win.
Death Dealer - Meganerdbomb is ranked #18 in BBEANS but this entry looks like a pretty average HS, i think the lower spinners could be there to cause pop-ups trouble, should get a win or 2.
DGSG/IDRODI - a pretty good looking multi-bot with rammer and popup could cause some problems for most entries.
'Eavy Metal Boi - not sure if it's a rammer or poker, looks pretty durable but i don't think it will go far.
gears your lever - 2 smaller HS's will be weaker then 1 bigger one. looks like a strong entry though and could get at least 1 win.
Generic Rammer - not the worst rammer here but i still don't like it's chance, could get a win though.
grinnin face - i wouldn't be grinnin if this were my entry, it will get destroyed by pop-ups, other HS's, Rammers, Jugglers, Face spinners and VS's... well that's everyone.
Gut Ripper 2 - looks like a borg queen setup but not as strong, could get a win.
Heaven's Sawmill - One of my favorite entries from my favorite builder, it should make top 4 at least.
Hellbringer - it's a decent FS and could get a win or 2.
Insult to Injury V - a weak VS, at least the wheels aren't exposed...
Juggernaut Mk. 3 - well its one of the more unique entries.. a rammer that can ram at you from 2 ends could be a better entry then most think.
Mace in da face - another strong HS, another possible winner for best rookie.
Mjorhmei - most random name here imo, hammers aren't that great.. one of the weaker VS's. i dunno might get a win.
No Hype 5 - i think it's the only flipper here, low arena walls might work in it's favor, could cause a few upsests.
Oscillation Overthruster - not the strongest HS but could get a win or 2.
PitA 8 - lots of pop-ups and this is one of the better ones with low ground clearance and good wedges should go far.
R4 - ROBOSH4RK is one of the best pop-up builders and this bot should go far.
Red Radar - a weird little bot here, but one of the weakest entries.. probably won't get a win.
Revenge Of Dr.Wham - looks like a decent pop-up and will probably get a few wins.
SandStorm - My entry and one of the most unique, it has decent speed to get under bots and grind away with the axes, and the HS's will help protect it against attacks from the sides and behind, could get a win but probably won't :P
Seism 13 - 13 will be unlucky for most in this tournament, a strong pop-up that should go far.
Shock Therapy - seems like this robots wants to beat us with defense, pity those plows don't even scratch weapons.. still looks cool and has a cool name, won't get a win.
Spearhead - a really strong poker here, will cause lots of problems for HS's.. could go far.
Stratocaster - a good rammer/poker that could also cause problems for HS's. should get a couple of wins.
SurgicalStrike - a decent pop-up but isn't a strong as the others. will get a win or 2.
T-800 Terminator - a strong entry with plenty of "weapon breakers" as he calls them. a good mix of defense and offense, will go far.
The Baby Warrior - this entry has me confused... it looks like it has a good wedge and it's well protected with plows, if the builder picked better weapons i would give this robot a chance.. could still cause an upset.
the black plague - another strong HS but different setup, could go far.
The Emancipator - A strong VS that's well protected, will get a couple of wins at least.
The Fang Brothers - pretty cool looking, but shouldn't do well due to lack of weapons.
Three Kings - it looks weird and strong... could get a couple of wins.
Triple Play - not enough weapons, probably won't get a win.
Trojan Horse - looks like another decent pop-up, should get at least 1 win.
Tsunami - ... looks tiny, wheel choice is bad and paint job average.. so i'm gonna guess this robot is average at best and will be lucky to get a win.
Shadow Tryant - Trovaner is a great builder and this pop-up will cause problems.
Vela - a decent HS with front protection, however those back wheels will be easy to knock off, could get a win or 2.
Vetearn (typo?) Destroyer - one of the only hammer bots here, looks decent.. maybe a win or 2.
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« Reply #410 on: April 12, 2009, 07:59:05 PM »
I'm scared of those lowhitting HSs. Undercutters too if there were any.
Rammers... probably another losing factor.

On the note of (other) multi-bots...
Wonder if S32's HS/undercutter/rammer team will work. Personally more worried about Consonant.
Don't see Pressure's Fang bros getting anywhere. SFTW in multibot poker form.
DGSG/IDRODI (possible name to abbreviation fail) looks toughest of the multis.
Gears Your Lever looks like it could be simply improved.

Bad looking bots:
Fang Brothers as mentioned.
Tsunami. Most likely a popup, but useless without the wedge.
The Baby Warrior. Should of just been a rammer with that spike setup. Poor designing.
Red Radar. Could be much more effective.

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« Reply #411 on: April 12, 2009, 08:19:02 PM »
A couple quick predictions of my own, since I forgot to say anything in my first post.

Top 5 Most Likely to be Champion:
Absolute Chaos - It has a fearsome reputation, and I see no reason why it can't live up to it here.

Mace in da face - Like AC, but with less exposed wheels and less fear factor.  AC vs. Mace would basically be a coin toss.

Bumble Bee - Almost the only way this bot will lose is if it fights a VS, or a popup gets lucky and flips it OOTA.

Bounty Hunter - Caster-armored popup ftw.

PitA 8 - Like Bounty Hunter, this pair is the popup equivalent of AC and Mace in da face.

Other bots to watch out for:
The Emancipator - If it gets under you, this bot is powerful enough to toss most opponents OOTA very quickly.  I expect H@zm47's ranking to improve significantly after BBEANS5.

Chernobyl - It doesn't have the reputation of AC or look as pretty as Mace in da face, but a 36-mace HS is still nothing to shake a stick at.

Seism 13 - At first glance it looks like a generic popup, but this bot has a feature no other popup does: adjustable wedges on linear actuators that can be either wide (pictured) or narrow (one wedge in the center).  Firebeetle spent a lot of time on Seism's custom AI, and bots like Bounty Hunter and PitA better watch out when it switches to narrow wedge mode...

Big Flip's Revenge - This multibot team will lose to most HS's, but against anything else it stands a very good chance of winning.  If even one gets under you, it's usually enough for a KO.

Stratocaster - This bot is actually powerful enough to flip bots over the walls.  One of the best of the rammers.

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« Reply #412 on: April 12, 2009, 08:33:02 PM »
Redline: Vowel is a HS/SNS hybrid. I'd be more scared of that IMO.
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« Reply #413 on: April 12, 2009, 08:41:49 PM »
I think Cocytus IV, Crawl through Knives, and Bounty Hunter will be the hard ones to beat.

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« Reply #414 on: April 12, 2009, 08:44:57 PM »
45-70 Magnum - Good 'ol ACAMS has a good bot, but wont win against HSers, strong ones at least. Its wedges will determine if it beats popups or not.

Absolute chaos - Depends on who I face...

Acupunture - Ehhhh. Strat look a like. Weak competitor.

Anti-christ V.Pincer - Doesn't look that bad, can it compete with the big boys?

Big Flip's Revenge - Hate Multi's in stock, but could manage a win or two depending on what kind of draw they get.

Black Cat Magic - Too bad paint jobs mean nothing to performance.

Blood Shed - A strong rammer, with small weapons.

Bounty Hunter - So dangerous against bots of all types. Final four competitor at least. Can it beat the Bee?

Bumble Bee - "Cheap Win 3000." Thatts exactly what it does, wins. Can anyone knock it out of the arena? If not, you're looking at your champion...(gay :P).

Cardiac Arrest - HS = Epic Win. Wedge = Epic Fail.

Chernobyl - Its got 36 maces, but is loosely constructed.

Cocytus IV - How good are the wedges? Very dangerous bot if it gets under its opponents well...

Consonant/Vowel - I hate Multi's. But S32 is an oddball...

Copyright Infringement - A Nice stacked HS...Will compete, will advance as long as it doesn't face one of the well armored popups or a stronger HS. Or a rammer.

Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - Dark Horse. I like Oggie, has strong potential with a good draw.

Dark July - Lots of weapons is good if it draws a thick field of HSers. Wont be good if it gets wedges.

Death Dealer - Well, Depends on what it faces. Less than average HS by today's standards.

DGSG/IDRODI - Would do well in a MultiBot tournament. This isn't a MultiBot tournament,

'Eavy Metal Boi - Bleh. Weak rammer all around.

gears your lever - Worst Multi-Bot.

Generic Rammer - HS = Could Win. Wedge = Will Lose.

grinnin face - Stay away from Nary's cola.

Gut Ripper 2 - looks like a borg queen setup but not as strong, could get a win.

Heaven's Sawmill - Great bot, but people are over hyping it. It'l put on a show but won't finish at the top.

Hellbringer - A pretty good FS. No wedges hurt. We'll see who JD draws.

Insult to Injury V - Is he from the West? Certainly not from the East or the South.

Juggernaut Mk. 3 - Sorry Sol Vector, this rammer will not compete.

Mace in da face - So much for hating Generic 36 weapon HW HSes Venko. Won't be agile enough to compete against the likes of T800, Bounty Hunter, or AC.

Mjorhmei - +1 for the name, -3 for the weapons.

No Hype 5 - No more most boring match award for PB, hopefully. Don't know if it will win, maybe it will.

Oscillation Overthruster - Not a great HS, but let's see who it draws.

PitA 8 - Well weaponed, Well armored, Well built, but will bots glide up its front?

R4 - 20 razors, 0 Armor. Destructive, but fragile, confused about the entry from one of the most gifted builders.

Red Radar - No wins will be amounted.

Revenge Of Dr.Wham - Not a bad bot built by Sir Whammett, but it won't be a contender.

SandStorm - Interesting, HS fodder though.

Seism 13 - Well built, but can it rumble through all the HSes?

Shock Therapy - Ummm.

Spearhead - SSG is underrated. This bot could cause HSes trouble as long as it keeps its wheels on. Wedges could hurt its chances.

Stratocaster - K343's last stand more than likely. Hopefully it will manage a win or two.

SurgicalStrike - No armor is downfall, and more than likely does not have great wedges. We'll see...

T-800 Terminator - Strong entry from 'The Man.' Should do well against all bots. Could be more favorable for popups than other HSes in the tournament. Could do well against other slower HSes. Fast, but can it keep up with AC's speed and power, PitA and Bounty's defense, and the mercy of Tsunami? (OK, the last one was a joke, but it will be a top contender).

The Baby Warrior - Spawn of Clown Grog will not win.

the black plague - Interesting. Unstable. Unarmored. Hmm...

The Emancipator - A quality entry from HAZMAT, will it win? Hopefully the wedges are good enough.

The Fang Brothers - Someone get the peanut butter, please.

Three Kings - Fodder for all sorts of bots.

Triple Play - Weak all around.

Trojan Horse - Could surprise some for a round or two if that wedge functions.

Tsunami - Really, I need the peanut butter. And some clorox.

Shadow Tryant - Most underrated builder on the forum. Will go far

Vela - I think it'll do better than some expect, but won't win against bigger, faster, stronger HSerz.

Vetearn (?) Destroyer - Could do quite well if it draws bots without wedges that arent HSes.

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« Reply #415 on: April 12, 2009, 08:53:36 PM »
Quote from: infiniteinertia;33993


Winner: Bumble Bee
Best Newbie:Oggie
NDSBFSKJDBGKSDBGKAFLLLLL: 45-70 Magnum


Say what?
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« Reply #416 on: April 12, 2009, 08:57:14 PM »
Insult to Injury: *STFW pic*

juggernaut: A rammer that takes advantage of the Rammer AI problems. Nice. (Still a loser)

Mace in da face: Venko's BBEANS entry will show that he's not just a pushover. Go venk.

Mjorhmei: Does he know something we don't know, or is he intent on losing?

No hype 5: A popup/flipper hybrid. Nice.

OO: Weakest of almost all other HS. Not going to get far at all.

PitA 8: Naryar has proven himself as a tourney champion, I'm putting a bounty on this bot's head.

R4: I like how those Samuri swords are used. Nice.

Red Radar: Odd. Definate failure.

Dr. Wham: A rammer or a popup... ...who knows.
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« Reply #417 on: April 12, 2009, 09:09:13 PM »
I am going to predict that mine will be the SFTW of this tournament. And I have to learn how to stack or I'm ****** in any of the stock tournaments I enter.

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« Reply #418 on: April 12, 2009, 09:24:49 PM »
Quote from: System32;33995
Insult to Injury: *STFW pic*

juggernaut: A rammer that takes advantage of the Rammer AI problems. Nice. (Still a loser)

Mace in da face: Venko's BBEANS entry will show that he's not just a pushover. Go venk.

Mjorhmei: Does he know something we don't know, or is he intent on losing?

No hype 5: A popup/flipper hybrid. Nice.

OO: Weakest of almost all other HS. Not going to get far at all.

PitA 8: Naryar has proven himself as a tourney champion, I'm putting a bounty on this bot's head.

R4: I like how those Samuri swords are used. Nice.

Red Radar: Odd. Definate failure.

Dr. Wham: A rammer or a popup... ...who knows.


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« Reply #419 on: April 12, 2009, 09:30:03 PM »
45-70 Magnum - ACAMS built it so it must be decent. Too slow to kill HS but could pull out some victories

Absolute Chaos - Absolute Chaos. Built by Inf. Destructive. End of Story.

Acupunture - Not the worst bot but not that good. Could win a fight if it faces one of those crappy bots.

Anti-christ V.Pincer - Doesn't look bad but most of its weapons are too back. If it can get in and stop hs with its brackets, it could beat some of the better HS in this tourny.

Big Flip's Revenge - Armorless and underweight compared to other bots. Will get raped by the first HS it fights but could pull off some victories against non-HS.

Black Cat Magic - Exposed wheels, weak weapon, exposed chassis, etc. Again not the worst

Blood Shed - Good rammer. Could get a win or two.

Bounty Hunter - Built by Pys.

Bumble Bee - I see it getting far. I see it raping HS and exposed pop-ups.

Cardiac Arrest - Lots o spikes and decently fast. Could get some wins but no wedge kills it.

Chernobyl- *sigh* It's a 36 macer so it will win some fights. I wish Somebody entered something less gay...

Cocytus IV - One of its wedges is AGOD. I sent Click a resend but I think I was too late. Still should get some wins against rammers and SFTWs. It won't be a match for HS or pop-ups though.

Consonant/Vowel - The SnS is okay but the rammer won't even scratch most HWs. I don't see it doing much in this tourny.

Copyright Infringement - It's a HS so its bound to win a fight. It looks pretty well built too so IDK.

Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - NWB with ramplates instead of razors on the side. I think it may even be NWB...

Dark July - HS will break their own spikes on these weapon racks. Will be killed immediatly by anything with a wedge.

Death Dealer - Could pull off a win against a SFTW. Sorry MTB, won't go far.

DGSG/IDRODI - Probably the best of the multibots. Still going to face all the problems a multibot faces. Especially in stock.

'Eavy Metal Boi - Weak rammer.

gears your lever - Worst of the Multibots

Generic Rammer - Could pull off a win. Exposed sides will probably kill it vs a Hs and no wedge means its a gonner against pop-ups.

grinnin face - :]         Suprisingly not the worst

Gut Ripper 2 - Unstablility and weak weapons are probably going to kill it.

Heaven's Sawmill - Awesome bot but doesn't look like it will go too far. Should give a good show though.

Hellbringer - Jack Daniels build pretty solid bots. Should rack up a win or two but will be beaten by stacked HS or a pop-up

Insult to Injury V - hehehe. Funny looking bot. Might be one of the worst.

Juggernaut Mk. 3 - A massive chassis will be prey for pop-ups and exposed corners and low weapon numbers mean it will be beaten pretty quick by HS

Mace in da face - Leave it to the guy who 'builds revolutionary bots' to enter a 36 Mace HS. Will win fights but bleh.

Mjorhmei - Not awful. might get a chance to launch a bot out of the arena.

No Hype 5 - Looks like an upward firing Pop-up. Looks okay. Definatly won't be boring like GBBS and BrasOuvert.

Oscillation Overthruster - Its an Hs and not a very good one. Could win a fight.

PitA 8 - Castor armored pop-ups can never do wrong. Should do well.

R4 - If it survives the initial hit from an hs it will probably 1HKO but its other fights depend on how good the wedge is.

Red Radar - Original! but no..

Revenge Of Dr.Wham - Not a bad pop-up. Will win a fight but not much more.

SandStorm - I'd like to see how this one will work out. Depending on its draw Ianh might go winless again!!

Seism 13 - Very well made. Should get far.

Shock Therapy - Too many snowplows for its own good...

Spearhead - Could prove troublesome for HS. Won't be a problem for pop-ups though.

Stratocaster - One of Kill's signature bots. Its very good but probably will get beat by Hs and Pop-ups.

SurgicalStrike - Exposed as heck. Wont last too long

T-800 Terminator - Good bot. Hopefully SC will improve on his 48 rankings

The Baby Warrior - SFTW

the black plague - Looks wild. Could beat a couple unarmored bots just cus its an HS.

The Emancipator - A very good suprise from H@zM@T. Could do well if its wedges are any good.

The Fang Brothers - Even bigger SFTW

Three Kings - Looks cool but probably sucks

Triple Play - One of the worst.

Trojan Horse - Could win a few depending on how that weapon fires...

Tsunami - Be afraid. Could go all the way.

Shadow Tryant - I think theres more to this bot than we can see. Trovs a smart guy so I bet thats like 8 ramplates.

Vela - Its a Hs so could win a few.

Vetearn Destroyer - Cool bot. Could win a few fights.