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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: Clickbeetle on March 01, 2009, 02:24:57 PM
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Registration for BBEANS5 is now CLOSED. The bracket is filled.
RULES - READ THESE FIRST before entering!
First, make sure to read the General Rules (CLICK HERE) (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans).
I've made a few more slight revisions for this tournament in the free restart rules. I'm still not satisfied with the way I've been handling immobility and free restarts, so instead of using an overly complex set of objective parameters to determine when a bot is "able", I'm doing it more subjectively this time. In a nutshell, if I think a bot is still mobile when it is counted out, it gets a free restart. If I think it's really immobile, then it doesn't.
Tournament Format
The weight class used will be Heavyweight.
The game mode will be Stock. Don't even think about that other game. Yes, the one that starts with a D and ends with an L and has an S in the middle. I don't even want to type it for fear that someone will just skim the rules and see it and enter a D... ahem, a non-stock bot.
Matches in BBEANS5 will consist of three 2-minute fights, best two out of three (or three out of three) wins.
The bracket will be double elimination. (Sorry ACAMS, but that's the way I've run every other BBEANS so far and I want to be consistent for the AI packs. After #6 I'll dabble in other formats.)
The matches will be fought in the BBEANS Tournament Arena V2 (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/robotarena.htm).
There are 32 entry slots. That sounds like a lot, but there were a few late entries that were left out in BBEANS4, so don't wait too long!
Rules and the arena are subject to change before the start of the tournament. This will depend on how many really laggy bots I get (in which case I may make the first two rounds of the tournament 1 fight instead of 3) and I may also do some adjusting of the flipper power based on several statements that they are too powerful.
Prizes
The prizes for BBEANS5 are the same as for #4. The Champion will receive the Champion's Sword plus one prize component of their choice. The runner-up, the rumble winner, and each winner of the bonus awards will also receive one prize component of their choice.
The Champion's Sword:
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/sword1.jpg)
The prize components:
Number one, the Stacked Supervolt.
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize1.jpg)
Number two, the BBEANS Blade.
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize2.jpg)
Number three, the Nifty Battery/Control.
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize3.jpg)
Number four, the BBEANS Hammer.
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize4.jpg)
AND...
Introducing number five, the Armored Magmotor!
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize5.jpg)
With the next BBEANS scheduled to be DSL LW, I imagine this prize is going to be quite popular. It's just like a regular Magmotor, but it will be a lot safer outside your chassis. For reference, the regular Magmotors have the default motor HP, which I think is less than 1000.
Registered competitors: ( 53 )
Clickbeetle
JoeCB1991
shadow54
DuckRA2
Somebody
Sage
Jack Daniels
Dexterhunter
zipperrulez
R1885
bloxace14
JoeBlo
Redline
MikeNCR
Firebeetle
Pressure
somestrangeguy
roboman2444
System32
Natef
MetalikVyper
Condor33
Pyscolone
H@zm47
Reier
Venko
mjrobots
ianh05
philetbabe
Oggie
Jeffrey
R0B0SH4RK
glenku
Sol Vector
Wings
40757
Meganerdbomb
Pwnator
man manu
Flying_Chao
Alterer of Reality
Starcore
Urjak
Famo WX
kill343gs
Eggman249
Mark
Naryar
Scrap Daddy
Trovaner
ACAMS
infiniteinertia
WhamettNuht
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hehe awesome. Im definatly entering.
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Eh, I'll get obliterated but I'll give it a go.
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I'll have a go.
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What a good time to have the Gigafrost AI pack! I'll enter.
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Time to prove myself, either as a champ, or a complete failure.
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Testing out a few possible entries. Definitely will enter something.
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I am joining but my robot is crap
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Well the TWM's .txt says 8000 HP...
Don't know if i'm going to enter that one. Every champion competed in just one BBEANS anyway...
Can't wait for the thing to start, still!
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Well the TWM's .txt says 8000 HP...
That's the TWM3, the angled one. And frankly 8000 is too much for a 30kg motor; that will be changing in DSL 3. The TWM3R has default hitpoints, which will also be changing, probably to 3000. So the Armored Magmotor will have twice as much.
Don't know if i'm going to enter that one. Every champion competed in just one BBEANS anyway...
You were the first champion to come up through the loser's bracket, you can be the first to re-enter too.
Also, MikeNCR just said he's definitely entering something.
Just think if we had two former champions in this event...!
I'd have to do a grudge match for sure between Mike and Naryar if they didn't end up fighting in the bracket.
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I will win this one! I've failed twice... but this time i can feel it!
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I suck with Stock Bots but I have something ready, I just sent it in.
But, I'm ready for the Lightweight Tournament that you are going to do later.
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Count me in Click.
Hopefully I'll do better this time...
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Count me in!!!
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I'm gonna make a suprise entry :)
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All you with popups or HS- You're dead.
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I have a HS =(...
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I'm designing something new. Hopefully It'll work the way I want it to.
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I have had a half finished bot tucked away that I plan to finish, prob get completely destroyed but hey im on the bottom of the learning curve its the only way ill get better... no pain no gain :-D
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This is craaazy. Frezal just came back, and Pressure is here too!
I'm entering.
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Cool, Hopefully I'll do better in BBEANS5 than 4 :S
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If i decide to compete, my only certitude is that i will enter a gut-ripper... but there are many choices !!
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All you with popups or HS- You're dead.
bahahah
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I will join this brawl.
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That's it, I'm going to enter an SNS.
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i got nothin else to do so i'll enter, obviously ill get completley owned but im just that kind of person who does.
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All you with popups or HS- You're dead.
bahahah
(The first and the last time that i must agree with Pys.)
Muhahahahahahah...
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well, this'll be one heck of a tourney.
I'm most worried about Nar, Pys, inf, R0B0 and Sage.
Click, Giga and Scrap will be fun to watch.
I'll be interesting to see Venko's and Man manu's abominations. (I know they WILL be...)
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You'd better worry about SSG or Scrap Daddy rather than me...
Also i bet Starcore will enter.
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I'm in
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yeah i'll try this.
it will be my first one :)
i'll get owned by you guys lol
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This tourney might need to be bigger than 32 competitors.
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sorry i couldn't find this in the rules anywhere, either that or i'm blind...
Are the components allowed to go through other components?
EX: lets say i have a lawnmower blade, but when it spins it goes through a ram plate hanging on the outside of my bot for armor.
would that be acceptable?
i didn't really use a lawnmower blade, just an example...
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I'll be interesting to see Venko's and Man manu's abominations. (I know they WILL be...)
But little did you know i'm concocting the most clever, ingenious robot ever to have walked the earth! Be afraid, be very afraid.
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my bot fits the realistic rule too... how weird is that?
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I'll be pleased to enter too, even if i'm worst at Stock than DSL, when AIed, my bot do not beat Starecore ones very often, and in fact, they do not even beat them at all :-( but with luck.
anyway, count me in
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sorry i couldn't find this in the rules anywhere, either that or i'm blind...
Are the components allowed to go through other components?
EX: lets say i have a lawnmower blade, but when it spins it goes through a ram plate hanging on the outside of my bot for armor.
would that be acceptable?
i didn't really use a lawnmower blade, just an example...
i gotta know this before i continue work on my bot
these smileys are awesome :truck: :o
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i gotta know this before i continue work on my bot
these smileys are awesome :truck: :o
yes this is a non realistic tournament. all glitches are allowed except the nasty pickle glitch and the trinity glitch, or havok inducing bots.
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The only thing close to glitching I used was having the weapons go through the batteries/motors inside of the chassis.
I tried to make a Realistic VS but I could not get it to work right.
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You know I'm in! I'm planning to be in every BBEANS event. I'm still not sure what I'm gonna enter but I have a couple of ideas. Expect something sexy!
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I'll enter, and don't expect some crap like NOS-BOT again for sure. ;)
I should have my bot in by the end of the week.
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okay thanks for letting me know sage, you just saved my life lol
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I'll enter, and don't expect some crap like NOS-BOT again for sure. ;)
I should have my bot in by the end of the week.
Even my piece of **** beat you...
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I'll enter. I'll be sending you my robot Bloodshed, since I gave up trying to build stock heavyweights.
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All you with popups or HS- You're dead.
Your building a hammer bot aren't you? Thats the only bot I can think of that can by-pass the weapons and hit at the meat of the bot.
Click, you can expect see my bot (and bloxace14's, he does not have an e-mail acount) by tonight.
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Your building a hammer bot aren't you? Thats the only bot I can think of that can by-pass the weapons and hit at the meat of the bot.
nope.
and this bot took out two spin doctors on a team. Same with SCv4 Maelstrom. But that was the combat arena.
this bot's weakness is the actual BBEANS arena.
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Now you have me curious. I can't wait to see it! I'm probably not going to ener an HS anyway, because I'm not as good at building them as some people are.
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nope.
and this bot took out two spin doctors on a team. Same with SCv4 Maelstrom. But that was the combat arena.
this bot's weakness is the actual BBEANS arena.
Well theres a few things like that:
Ramer
wamer
SnS
the list goes on.
I will still enter a pop-up of my own type.
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Even my piece of **** beat you...
Yep. Not sure what kind of bot to do at the time.
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ok click I sent my entry your way :-D my goal is to last at least a minute in my first match lol
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Why the heck do you newbies keep rushing on entering... You guys have nearly four weeks to build the best you can do and send it !
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thats just it. we are newbies and dont know sh*t :tongue:
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I made mine when Click announced the Tournament.
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Me too. And with so many people, some of you last minute entries might get left out.
EDIT: Who is Shadow54?
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Maybe one of CB's friends like sammy.
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Maybe. It seems that CB has taught his friends well, because Sammy has had some pretty good bots.
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I can't boot up RA2 to make a new bot. So I just sent in one of my older bots early so I have a guaranteed slot in the tourney.
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thats just it. we are newbies and dont know sh*t :tongue:
Hehe...
Looks like this tourneys going to be large...
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I think I might do this one. Now I just need to make a heavyweight that would be good enough. The bots you kids make are completely different than back in my day.
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I think I might do this one. Now I just need to make a heavyweight that would be good enough. The bots you kids make are completely different than back in my day.
then who you calling kid?!
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then who you calling kid?!
To put things in perspective, the year you were born, I was playing Donkey Kong Country on my SNES.
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Why the heck do you newbies keep rushing on entering... You guys have nearly four weeks to build the best you can do and send it !
I had mine pretty much made from back when click was talking about the BBEANS5 plans I just added some finishing touches to it.
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rules does not allow cheatbot2 components ( flamethrower, canon).
but are all theses components, naturally hidden, also forbidden ?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2617otherComp.png)
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No, you can use those.
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Of course yes... You probably won't be able to enter a 36-iron if the SnapperII was banned.
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Of course yes... You probably won't be able to enter a 36-iron if the SnapperII was banned.
see- nefarious.
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Don't expect results but my creation has just been sent to Clickbeetle.
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Why hasn't anyone made a 36 Iron HS/SnS before?
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Why hasn't anyone made a 36 Iron HS/SnS before?
Because it would just be a 36 iron hs that spins in circles?
On another note, I still have no idea what im entering.
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Because it would just be a 36 iron hs that spins in circles?
On another note, I still have no idea what im entering.
Inf has one called category 5. built it a while ago, but hasnt showcased it.
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Starcore's Spin Doctor was one, wasn't it?
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Sign me up for this one. I'll definetely get a bot ready for this.
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i see these entries on the main page that appeared after i sent my bot in... why?
sorry if i sound impatient.
thanks
~zipperrulez
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Just sent in my entry. It's a bit lame, but it does a decent job in combat.
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sorry for last post clickbeetle, i just go your email like 5 minutes after i posted it >_< sorry.
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Starcore's Spin Doctor was one, wasn't it?
no spin doctor doesnt have 36 spikes.
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EDIT: Who is Shadow54?
shadow54 is actually registered now, he's a new member who just hasn't posted yet to my knowledge.
bloxace14 is R1885's brother, for all who are curious.
And also for all who are curious, my entry is Heaven's Sawmill. I say this now so no one can accuse me of secretly changing entries later on.
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I'm entering by the way...
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Starcore's Spin Doctor was one, wasn't it?
It doesn't have 36 iron spikes. I think it has thirty.
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I'm pretty sure it's 30. Oh CB, nerd500 might be entering FYI. She'll post sometime soon.
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I'm probably going to enter PitA 7.
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With a bit of tweaking, my creation might actually pose a threat now.
Initials - BFR
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Iv'e sent my bot to Clicky :)
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Iv'e sent my bot to Clicky :)
Lets hope that SmashGold and Sabre gave you the know how to do good this time.
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I personally think im not gonna do well.
I'm waiting for RAW, i got a good DSL bot :)
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but RAW 2 is stock.
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Oh crap Almost half full already! I'd better hurry up with my entry. I'll try to get in in by next week.
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RAW 2 is stock MW multibot. (so basically each person builds 2 MWs)
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Ahh ok...
:(
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Ahh ok...
:(
Well, atleast you're back. Good you see you and all.
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I'm entering two really good robots
(they actually won some dsl matches)
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This is no DSL torny!
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This is no DSL torny!
he means his stock bots beat some DSL ones.
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he means his stock bots beat some DSL ones.
It could also mean his DSL bots were bad before and this is the first time he's actually won with his own creation on DSL.
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I ment that the bots that I made were stock, But they can beet about half of the dsl mw and hw
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Is it a multibot. Because you can only enter one bot.
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I wonder if the lack of "no cheatbot2 parts" rule will be exploited.
(If it is, I'm pretty sure their will be a call for a lynching)
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I meant, Like one HW.
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I realised.
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I think I've decided on a bot for this tournament. It will probably lose (it's currently not very stable), but it's my favorite bot that I've built since re-installing.
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I'm still finalising. It should be ready by tomorrow.
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Click, have you recived my bot? I sent it 2 days ago and i dont see myself on the list.
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Me too.
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I want to enter with one of my bots, so I just send them to you and you can AI them for me?
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I want to enter with one of my bots, so I just send them to you and you can AI them for me?
yes.
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I want to enter with one of my bots, so I just send them to you and you can AI them for me?
Just don't expect to last long.
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Just don't expect to last long.
MWAHAHAHAHA !!
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...
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Wut.
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dont have time to build, so i will enter AC2 or Pandemonium.
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Oh Greaaaaat.
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Figured out I can somehow run my stock version of RA2. Updated my entry.
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Holy crap, 20 players just about a week after you posted the news.
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I'm almost ready with my entry!
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Someone needs to alert Phlox and Barbie that there is another BBEANS going on.
And seastalker.
This is definetly going to have to be bigger than 32 bots.
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i will enter AC2 or Pandemonium.
That was bound to happen.
Anyways i started working on PitA 7, but it's a pain to build. Plus the skin and the AI...
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This is definetly going to have to be bigger than 32 bots.
Please stop saying that... 32 Bots allows for a clean bracket competition with little mathematical frills and loops. If you add more bots it makes the bracket system uneven and results in more "byes" and double fights.
People, don't bank on the number going beyond 32. Enter your bot quickly, first come first serve.
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True.
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In my mind, since BBEANS is such a huge, important tournament, people who want to enter and can enter before the deadline should be allowed to enter, and the entry limit should go up. But since this is Clickbeetle's tournament, it is completly up to him.
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remember BBEANS 3?
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There were more byes than bots in the first round of the Loser's Bracket.
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Just finalizing mine, it's almost ready.
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There were more byes than bots in the first round of the Loser's Bracket.
Yeeeshh... that's terrible.
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Mine is almost done. Watch out anyone without wedges!
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Mine is almost done. Watch out anyone without wedges!
Mines sent
@ H@zm47: i got wedges so i should be ok against a proffesional like you.......right?
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Mine is almost done. Watch out anyone without wedges!
Pop up, right. Sadly for you, mine does have wedges.(And eight DDTs!)
Btw: Will the armored Magmotor also come in a drive version?
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Because I almost never play stock, I'm going enter an old generic rammer I made. Not a SFTW though. The reason is that I WANT THAT HAMMER, DAMMIT! :tongue:
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Mine is almost done. Watch out anyone without wedges!
somehow i doubt you can beat mine... even without my bot having wedges. (not showcased yet ;D)
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I would like to register for this tourny. I know I need to send my AIed bot to Clickbeetle. So just declaring desire and intent here and will be sending the bot to Click.
Starcore
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YAY STARCORE IS ENTERING!!! woohoo!
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Yay!
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:gawe: x 3,659,304
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Btw: Will the armored Magmotor also come in a drive version?
Not yet, but it would be an easy modification to make. I didn't do it because I didn't think it would be useful. Most of the time, your drive motors are on the baseplate anyway and don't need more HP.
If there's demand for it, though, I'll certainly make a drive version.
Regarding Starcore: Good. You deserve to be ranked higher than 48. And I think in this tournament you could improve it (especially now knowing that button controls are superior to switches for spinners, which I think was your downfall in BBEANS3.)
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And now we are all going to die...
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I would like to register for this tourny. I know I need to send my AIed bot to Clickbeetle. So just declaring desire and intent here and will be sending the bot to Click.
Starcore
I said it. I said it!
And and Joe don't be that depressive. If you really force yourself to build something great you might win a few matches.
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I just know that I am not very good with Stock, and I don't know how to use the glitches that everyone else here uses.
I can build some good bots in DSL, but I have a hard time building good ones in Stock. Although I think I might be able to win a match or two if I get lucky.
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I just know that I am not very good with Stock, and I don't know how to use the glitches that everyone else here uses.
I can build some good bots in DSL, but I have a hard time building good ones in Stock. Although I think I might be able to win a match or two if I get lucky.
I tend to build things that could actually exist in real life. This gives me a huge disadvantage in online tournaments.
Well, I assume. I don't think I've done a tournament since RA1. I know one of my bots was used in an AU tournament by my old pal mastroiannijoe, but I don't think it got very far (it wasn't a very good bot).
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I prefer building more realistic ones too.
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same here
most of my lightweight bots are realistic but as they get heavier they start to get impossible to actually exist in real life
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And now we are all going to die...
Just remember that for the time being, you are still tied with Starcore in the Standings :biggrin:
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Just remember that for the time being, you are still tied with Starcore in the Standings :biggrin:
There are quite a few people tied there.
Well, in score anyway. From no. 47 to 59. Even includes me.
Don't understand how some creators have stuff like 4 KOs and 3 WBPs when they have a record of 1-2. That must be what separates people, but unless someone can explain what I mentioned...
Some people on the standings have 0 wins, but apparently won by points. Even the guy with 0-4.
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Don't understand how some creators have stuff like 4 KOs and 3 WBPs when they have a record of 1-2. That must be what separates people, but unless someone can explain what I mentioned...
Some people on the standings have 0 wins, but apparently won by points. Even the guy with 0-4.
That's because most of the matches in BBEANS are decided by best 2 out of 3 fights. So it's possible to get 1 win out of 3 fights, in which case it still counts as a loss for ranking purposes, but you'll still keep any KO's and such that you scored for that 1 win. If a bot gets a lot of 1-2 losses, it can accumulate a pretty good number of KO's even without actually winning any fights.
Why not just count wins as wins and give a bot with a 1-2 loss 1 win and 2 losses for the rankings? Two reasons. One, much of BBEANS2 wasn't best 2 out of 3. If all the other bots got 2 or 3 wins for every victory, it would unbalance everything and the BBEANS2 competitors would be left in the dust ranking-wise. And two, getting two 0-3 losses REALLY HURTS under that system. Or even getting one 0-3 loss. It's no fun getting 6 losses because of a couple of unlucky matchups. Awarding just 1 win per match evens things out a bit more.
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That's because most of the matches in BBEANS are decided by best 2 out of 3 fights. So it's possible to get 1 win out of 3 fights, in which case it still counts as a loss for ranking purposes, but you'll still keep any KO's and such that you scored for that 1 win. If a bot gets a lot of 1-2 losses, it can accumulate a pretty good number of KO's even without actually winning any fights.
Why not just count wins as wins and give a bot with a 1-2 loss 1 win and 2 losses for the rankings? Two reasons. One, much of BBEANS2 wasn't best 2 out of 3. If all the other bots got 2 or 3 wins for every victory, it would unbalance everything and the BBEANS2 competitors would be left in the dust ranking-wise. And two, getting two 0-3 losses REALLY HURTS under that system. Or even getting one 0-3 loss. It's no fun getting 6 losses because of a couple of unlucky matchups. Awarding just 1 win per match evens things out a bit more.
Aahh, that explains. Forgot about the whole best 2 of 3 thing. Or the video I downloaded of Double Damage was in the period that it was one win to go through. Or something.
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Just sent my entry in.
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Oh hi. Just popping by to tell you I'm still alive. Might even enter this one.
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I may get you a bot, CB.
Hey, Rolo. Nice to see you're still around...
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Graa I'm still going to get my entry in, CB..
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Hey everybody. This is your 8-entry-slots-left warning. 75% of the bracket is full.
There's still a chance of going to a 64-bot bracket, but I wouldn't hold my breath. After a phenomenal start, the rate of new entries has steadily declined to less than 1 per day. That means if you really want to enter, you better do it quick! (Not because of the rate of new entries. Because there are only 8 slots left.)
And I find it amusing that the first 3 people to post in this thread have yet to submit a bot. :mrgreen: Ironic much?
Progress: I currently have 12 bots AI'd and ready to fight. And so far, all our fears of an HS/popup-dominated bracket are mostly unfounded. There's no shortage of HS's and popups, of course, but there's also a nice variety of other designs. I think the only "main design" not so far represented is a hammer. Should be a good tournament.
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That is some good news.
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Pretty good to know, that.
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I might be posting an entry but my disc version hasn't arrived yet D: (which is why I bought the disc version in the first place, to compete in bbeans5)
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You don't need the disc version to compete in BBEANS5. You just need to build a legal bot (and something good) and send the .bot file to Click.
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As The Spinner From The West showed, it doen't have to be good.
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ugh ive had baseball everyday until like 8 o clock so I havent built anything yet...I might end up sending something i built already.
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Don't make it a 64 bot tourney, just don't.
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I sent in my entry, CB.
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My version of RA2 is odd and I've already had sombody try to help me on msn. I'd rather have the disc version anyways because of starcore and online play.
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As The Spinner From The West showed, it doen't have to be good.
It should be.
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It's a game, not a life or death thing. Unless the losers are thrown into the pit of oblivion, there's nothing to worry about.
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As The Spinner From The West showed, it doen't have to be good.
I would love to make something that was intentionally horrible for one of the tournaments for laughs.
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Hey, do I need the patch to compete in this one? I forgot what exactly it's for
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probably the 1.3 patch.
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Hotlink plz?
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Sure:
https://gametechmods.com/?do=Patches (https://gametechmods.com/?do=Patches)
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*crosses fingers and hopes for a fluke win*
i won't have the most amount of weapons this time round :P unlike the past 2 bbeans where i went all out and tried to pack as many on as i could. this time around i'm sending in an older bot cause i haven't played the game in ages (since the ARBBC tourney, which im unable to finish due to having lost all entries.)
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I'm entering today! It's not the bot I was hoping to enter, but it will do.
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Only 2 entry slots left!
Meganerdbomb, if you sent in an entry you'd better re-send it because I haven't gotten it.
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Crap. I just got back from vacationing for a week and I haven't had time to build anything new.
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I'm lazy.
... However, just you guys wait for BBEANS6...
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my friend (glenku) might have me enter his bot for him.
edit: just sent his entry.
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Looks like a few peoples are not gonna make it into this one. Good Luck to those who do!
Edit: Wow, just realized alot of big names might not be competing. Inf, Barbie, Phlox, Scrap Daddy, roboshark...
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hi i am aaron my bot flys and it can drive all over
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sending mine tonight...
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hi i am aaron my bot flys and it can drive all over
If it flies then it's illegal. Read the rules and enter a legal bot, or get out.
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Sending a bot to you sometime this weekend Click. Haven't forgotten about ya.
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If it flies then it's illegal. Read the rules and enter a legal bot, or get out.
Depends on if it actually flies or not. He could mean a hoverbot, he could mean it's just so fast like most bots with lots of Z-tek HPs that it has air control.
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The bracket is filled and registration is now CLOSED.
Sorry to everyone who was left out, but you DID have a whole month of advance notice plus a month of registration...
I currently have a surplus of 3 entries that were left out, so I don't think a 64-bot bracket is going to happen either. I would still need at least 13 more entries for me to start considering that.
Also, a sad day for BBEANS: Me, Firebeetle, and Pyscolone are now the only three people who have competed in all of the BBEANS. The number of dedicated entrants really took a hit this time.
But there are still a lot of other good veterans (and rookies too, for that matter) registered, and I can guarantee you this will be just as exciting as any other BBEANS.
Expect a splash in about a week or so (after the last entries have had a chance to switch if they want.)
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I dont get it, I thought i was entered? Were we supposed to submit bots already?
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Well, im officially pissed.
Im sending you something anyway if we get a 64 bracket.
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Click, KEEP IT AT 32 ENTRY'S if we don't we'll have a messed up brackets with a whole bunch of byes. because, I can guarantee you we won't fill up all 64 entry's.
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Well, I'm willing to send one in, if I can. I'm sure there are several other people who also want(ed) to be in the contest, too. I think we can pull a 64-bracket out of this if a few more people send in entries.....
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Me Too!
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Just saying, 64 IS possible.
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A 32 bot tourney would be less messy & all, but I think it'd be nice if we let the members who didn't have a chance to get in to play.
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That's all right; given that the next BBEANS seems to be DSL LWs (something I love making), I can always enter next time.
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Whadaya say, Click? If we can somehow get enough people, are you willing to blow it out to a 64 tourney, and make BBEANS5 the biggest tourney so far?
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I would propose having everybody send their bots, and we see how many that Click gets, and go from there. But this is all up to Click. And he was right, you guys did have a long time to get ready.
EDIT: I can count at least 8 other people who want to do this. I think that we should maybe try to expand it. But it is Click's choice, and I respect his decision (mostly because I sent my bot early and got my entry in)
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I'm sure there are several other people who also want(ed) to be in the contest, too. I think we can pull a 64-bracket out of this if a few more people send in entries.....
What? 32 more people wanted to be in BBEANS 5? Only 10 or so missed out. That is not enough, now shut up and go away.
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I was also planning on entering a bot but didn't get to :(
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You didn't act fast enough. Stop complaining.
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Hey, Dex, do the letters "F.O" mean anything to you............? If you're going to act like an asshole, be prepared to be treated like one. And I don't recall your name being changed to "Click".
Like Somebody said, it's Click's decision to expand it, or cut it off right at 32. I also respect R1885 that, true, we had plenty of time, and just didn't make the deadline. Me, I think it would be fun making it larger, but ultimately, the choice is Click's.
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Spyguy, look at the BBEANS4 brackets (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/matches/4/index.htm). Notice that there wasn't a SINGLE bye? Why is that? BECAUSE IT HAD 32 ENTRANTS. Take a look at the BBEANS3 brackets (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/matches/3/index.htm). Why was there so many byes? Because it had 44 entrants and not 32 or 64.
Now, do you want this to be another BBEANS 3? Or do you want it like BBEANS 4 where the bracket was perfect? If Click decides to expand the bracket to 64 and only gets 10 or so entrants it would be BBEANS 3 all over again.
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You didn't act fast enough. Stop complaining.
I didn't have access to RA2 disc version but I just received it in the mail today.
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You kids get angry over nothing, let whoever is hosting the damn thing decide, stop being pricks too whoever couldnt get an entry in, these brackets filled up rather quickly.
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I really do not care. I was just saying I would enter IF he decided to expand it. I was not asking it to be expanded.
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Just leave the brackets how they are. 32 is perfect for something like this.
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note to click i am considering using up my robot switch, i've got a rather nasty hw i fixed up. you have all seen the basic model of it but now its even more devastating :)
and i prefer no byes cause no one misses out on watching their bot in action.. and having 64 entries just means more work needs to be done and we will have too wait much longer for vids and for the tourney to start.
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Fine. I didn't make it on time.
This isn't worth arguing over - I've got plenty more headaches IRL to worry about without adding this into the mix.
*sigh* Have fun, guys, if things are looking better for me by then, maybe I'll catch BBEANS 6 .....
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I count eight people that are entered that I know nothing about. If there is even one Spinner From the West entry, I'm going to be pissed because vets like Inf and SD that have spent so much time contributing to the RA2 community got snubbed in favour of any noobs that thought that it might be kind of neat to enter their first tourney.
I suggest that priority should be given in future to builders that have participated in at least one tournament before (in other words, keep the entries from the first-timers as reserves, and allow vets to have spot priority over them). BBEANS should be the pinnacle of bot-building supremacy, and the best should be allowed every opportunity to compete.
I can see why Inf, Scrap and SG are mad. CB did say that the deadline was March 31st, so I think that they should have until then to submit bots.
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I count eight people that are entered that I know nothing about. If there is even one Spinner From the West entry, I'm going to be pissed because vets like Inf and SD that have spent so much time contributing to the RA2 community got snubbed in favour of any noobs that thought that it might be kind of neat to enter their first tourney.
I suggest that priority should be given in future to builders that have participated in at least one tournament before (in other words, keep the entries from the first-timers as reserves, and allow vets to have spot priority over them). BBEANS should be the pinnacle of bot-building supremacy, and the best should be allowed every opportunity to compete.
I can see why Inf, Scrap and SG are mad. CB did say that the deadline was March 31st, so I think that they should have until then to submit bots.
Exactly my opinion.
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Why change it now. It has always been this way. And for a newb, they were smart enough to get their entry in before it filled up.
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Edited statement: Enough demanding on this, guys. Tourney's are a tremendous amount of work. There is no demanding here,..from either side. Wait to hear from CB. Discussion and suggestions concerning grievances are fine, but nothing more... It's CB's donated efforts for the community.
I also relate. I didn't have time to get one in either (cause of Cuda's GUMBA stuff) thinking the deadline was the end of the month,... but he also did warn several times of (1) the ever lessening slots available, and (2) "I wouldn't hold my breath" concerning the tourney expanding to 64. So, it is what it is.
He'll be fair.
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It would be very unfair to non-veterans. Haven't almost all BBEANS been won by First Time Contestants?
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lol ROBOSH4RK, a sftw entry just might = my first BBEANS win... lets not be negative ;) and yes Urjak is right, rookies make it interesting and one or more of them usually go very far or wins the whole thing.
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Also, a sad day for BBEANS: Me, Firebeetle, and Pyscolone are now the only three people who have competed in all of the BBEANS. The number of dedicated entrants really took a hit this time.
In the long term, that's quite respectable. It's apparently been 2 years since the first BBEANS. RA2 came out in 2003. The game isn't as big now as it was, and it's meant to be a commercial failure as it is. (Or Wikipedia says, anyway)
Those who were around in summer 2007 when the first BBEANS started were probably nearing the last days of their interest in RA2. It's normal. If they didn't go after that, there's been another 2 years and 3 BBEANS to quit before, after or during.
Expect a splash in about a week or so (after the last entries have had a chance to switch if they want.)
Cool. This'll be interesting to see.
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Why change it now. It has always been this way. And for a newb, they were smart enough to get their entry in before it filled up.
ACAMS is 1st in BBEANS rankings. He won't be in the tourney.
Naryar is 2nd. He won't get the chance to be the first ever to sucessfully defend his title.
Inf is 5th. After back-to-back losses (a 2nd place and a BTRSHDBBDDTBL), he won't get a shot to win it all in the division he is perhaps the best at.
Scrap Daddy is 17th. He won't be able to build on his impressive rookie performance.
K343, Madiaba (who has contributed so much time to the RA2 community) and SpyGuy also all get snubbed.
Here's how I think registration should work in the future:
It opens on the 1st of the month, and then closes on the final day of the month. At this time, all entries are taken in. When registration closes, all builders that have participated in at least one tournament before should fill up the bracket. Then, any remaining spots should be given to the builders who sent their entries in the earliest.
BBEANS is the largest and most prestigious tournament we have around here. The winners of BBEANS get huge bragging rights, and majorly influence what kind of bots get built at the time. Therefore, the competition should be as high-quality as it can be. Without builders like Inf, SD, Mad, and Naryar (the defending champion), the quality of competition takes a big hit.
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I would still need at least 13 more entries for me to start considering a 64 bracket tournament.
How many people here are still wanting in?
:rolleyes:
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robosh4rk i am 64th in rankings but submitted 2 reasonably good robots i don't think rankings at this stage can reflect on the caliber of the competition.
my friend (glenku) was unknown by all and has never even registered on the forums but he is right up there ahead of some big names on the forum yet he just missed out on entering, so maybe someone else will have the chance to surprise us or maybe i will be able to get a win or 2?
if i was gonna be unhappy with anything about the entries is that people like pivanov and jet-speed who were newcomers that showed lots of potential won't be in and never got to enter any other bbeans either.
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1)Kill343gs
2)Madiaba
3)Naryar
4)Inf
5)Scrap
6)Glenku
7)Man Manu (We need you!)
8)Giga
9)Urj
10)FlyingChao
11)meganerdbomb
12)Urban_Twitch
That's nine, I think I can recruit two Ex RA2 players from sodaplay, and possibly advertize the cause. Hold up Click, we might get 13 extra players!
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I will send a bot too if you can get enough people.
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http://sodaplay.dailyforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=871
Got the thread up. I hope this works.
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http://sodaplay.dailyforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=871
Got the thread up. I hope this works.
Wouldn't it be better to link them to the 1.3 full version someone on the forum has a link in their sig to?
My friend couldn't make an MW in that time.. and his bots aren't really that good.
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Too bad there isn't one vacant spot in the main show...
that way we could have a pre-tournament for a wild card entry...
Congrats to those that made it in. Condolences to those that missed the show.
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dont forget me! I could participate too! :D 11
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2 more....
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Don't forget that through Youtube we could probably get Barbie and Phlox.
But it is up to Click.
He did warn us.
And Oggie wins the best new user award for not even having to ask people before sending his bot. Good Job!
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O noes my bot didnt get in!! It's kinda my fault, cause I waited too long. I wish I had sent it in the day I said I was going to send it in, but I had some more issues with my bot that I wanted to fix. I guess I just didn't use my time wisely. It makes me sad that I won't be I every BBeans, but I can't say I was all that hopeful about winning. My bot really wasn't performing as well as I wanted it too which was part of what was taking me so long. I still look forward too seeing how the tournament goes.
Edit: I see some other people still want in as well. If there's enough to expand the tournament to 64 brackets. I'll enter My bot which I finally have built to a satisfactory condition, although still not as good as I hoped.
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Two slots open? Someone needs to grab them while they can. I'm not going to be able to participate in this round, sorry.
Go to it, guys, and have fun.
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I was also planning on sending in a bot for BBEANS but I'm fine with it not expanding. I believe Click gave everyone plenty of warning that the slots were filling up and he also warned us a month in advance before opening registration.
Edit: Last I heard Starcore wanted to get a bot in too.
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Think everyone, you had two months in advance, that is plenty of time to build something, test it, and enter it.
I managed to get something in because I used the time wisely, I had built at least four bots in advance (Tempest, Crash.EXE, Flash.EXE, and SurgicalStrike) plus some other bots I built. There was also a reason why so many people had entered just as registration started, they knew that spots to be in would not last long.
And also, who ever suggested that vets get top priority in entrants needs to think. This would allow for better fights, but think of what might happen in an all vet tournament. You might get the same champ many times in a row, the new players would be denied any chance, and soon would defeat the the reason why to host a tournament.
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I built mine right after Click announced the Tournament, and there was plenty of time to get ready for the Tournament.
I just hope I do well, but I am not very good with Stock [getting better with DSL].
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And also, who ever suggested that vets get top priority in entrants needs to think. This would allow for better fights, but think of what might happen in an all vet tournament. You might get the same champ many times in a row, the new players would be denied any chance, and soon would defeat the the reason why to host a tournament.
no, it is you who needs to think.
for one, new players have the same chance if one vet is in the ring or if its all vets. doesn't matter.
the same champ many times in a row? what the heck? if it's all vets, there would be less of a chance of that happening.
And now to relate to real tournaments in real life. This is the most prestigious tournament on the forum. If it were in real life, you woul have to be invited to something like this, and the only way to do that would be to get attention from winning smaller tourneys. do you think noobs at a sport can just join the olympic team in the olympics? just cause they feel like it? NO. they have to work hard for years to even get the chance of being in the olympics.
same goes for this tournament. vets have been around much longer and are much better at this game. why should the people who have much less expeiriance at the game even be allowed to compete when the good builders are spending time making good bots?
the deadline was march 31st. thats when people planned. a good vet, unless they have a bot ready and made, will spend all the time he can on a good bot for BBEANS.
We don't want to watch SFTW fights! sure, it's funny the first time, but it gets old. we need epic, cool, fun-to-watch fights where you dont know whats gonna happen.
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Think everyone, you had two months in advance, that is plenty of time to build something, test it, and enter it.
I managed to get something in because I used the time wisely, I had built at least four bots in advance (Tempest, Crash.EXE, Flash.EXE, and SurgicalStrike) plus some other bots I built. There was also a reason why so many people had entered just as registration started, they knew that spots to be in would not last long.
And also, who ever suggested that vets get top priority in entrants needs to think. This would allow for better fights, but think of what might happen in an all vet tournament. You might get the same champ many times in a row, the new players would be denied any chance, and soon would defeat the the reason why to host a tournament.
Click said himself that he would need about 13 people to expand the time limit. We have already 11 in about one day.
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R1885, in those two months (actually, the past six months), I have been online eight to nine hours straight a day, seven days a week, filling out applications and hunting down possible job leads. I have been busy on the phone fighting off my credit card companies, who seem to think that I am now a bad credit risk because I was laid off in August, and apparently am unable to pay my bills, even though I have never missed a payment. I've been watching my savings and checking accounts get lower and lower each month, and will soon have to close a 35-year-old bank account because I will have nothing left in it by approximately the end of May. My car has been parked in the garage for the past four months, and doesn't even have current tags or insurance on it, simply because I can no longer afford to keep both it and my truck current at the same time. I already have a couple of my toys up for sale, and can't afford to fix the ones I'm planning on keeping, so they're just sitting in my garage. On the days I am NOT on the computer searching for work, I am working temp jobs, usually very long hours for damn little pay, and by the time I get home, hurting and tired and filthy, the last thing I want to do is even bother getting online, let alone playing a goddamn game!
NOW do you understand that I MAY have had a perfectly valid reason for not getting an entry in on time?
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I'm sorry, I usually don't rant like this. I am under an unbelievable amount of pressure with no relief in sight, and I'm trying to hold it together as best as I can. This is why I said forget it, I'm out - because I have WAY too much to worry about besides wondering if I can get into a tournament or not. I wouldn't wish my situation on anyone.
Sorry ........... I'm sorry .......... I try coming online to escape for a while, not to weigh you guys down with my problems ....
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@S32: Don't bring more unexperienced newbies into the competition. kthxbai.
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@R0B0: Thanks for support man. You guys should listen to him more !
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I say: dump the competitors (either newbie, regular or vet) with poor robots.
BBEANS should have a minimum quality standard for bots to be accepted.
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EDIT: Will enter something if Click accepts enough entries.
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I built mine right after Click announced the Tournament, and there was plenty of time to get ready for the Tournament.
I will probably get attacked for being a newbie in this tournament (which seems to make me this websites most hated at the moment) but I started working on my entry when click started the topic "BBEANS5 Plans" which was a month or so before registration was open
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I will probably get attacked for being a newbie in this tournament
Not if you enter a decent bot. You're not that bad at stock.
(which seems to make me this websites most hated at the moment)
Absolutely wrong when you consider guys like S32 or Hydro.
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since when has BBEANS been about only the vets and good builders hmm?
most of the robots have been decent in every BBEANS (except maybe BBEANS 1 cause of how inexperienced most were). this tournament gives EVERYONE a chance to send in their own bot and lets them watch it compete against other bots for entertainment and to see how their bots measure up against others.
come on guys..
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@S32: Don't bring more unexperienced newbies into the competition. kthxbai.
To Give them credit, They had the game when it first came out, and when I posted one of my HW's (Dimond miner) One of them told me about chaining motors. For a buildr who doesn't even know of this site I say that's imperessive.
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To Give them credit, They had the game when it first came out, and when I posted one of my HW's (Dimond miner) One of them told me about chaining motors. For a buildr who doesn't even know of this site I say that's imperessive.
Ok then, good idea in fact.
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another point i have, you are gonna stir up a lot of trouble if you change who is allowed to enter.. if spinner from the west got to enter its not fair for other inexperienced builders if you change it so only good robots get in.
them: "sorry your entry was denied, reason: not good enough for BBEANS."
you: "wtf? what about that spinner from the west?!"
just won't work...lol
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I will probably get attacked for being a newbie in this tournament (which seems to make me this websites most hated at the moment)
It's not you I've been talking about. I count six other people that I've never even heard of before. It's them getting in over the vets that bothers me.
And also, who ever suggested that vets get top priority in entrants needs to think.
That would be me.
This would allow for better fights, but think of what might happen in an all vet tournament. You might get the same champ many times in a row, the new players would be denied any chance, and soon would defeat the the reason why to host a tournament.
I fail to see your logic behind this point. How does allowing what is probably weaker competition in with just a few powerful bots prevent repeat champions? The desparity in skill between most of the vets is so small that in a tournament situation, it's pretty much negligible. Whereas the disparity between, say Pys and S32 I think we can all agree is huge. If anything, the more even the competition, the less likely a repeat champion will be.
And how would the fights be any better? I don't know about you, but I thought that Layziee vs Iron Spaghetti was much better than Haymaker vs NOS-BOT. Why? Because we knew Pys vs SD could go either way. We knew that Haymaker was going to dismantle NB though, so watching was pretty redundant. The point is that even competition makes for better fights.
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perhaps future tournaments that are high leveled should have a generic "benchmark" robot they must fight in order to qualify or even have qualifying events like BBEANS entry as prizes for other tournaments so it becomes best of the best
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if something like this "benchmark" idea were to happen the whole fairness of BBEANS would be destroyed! think about the good builders or bad builders who got to face bots like spinner from the west and got easy wins, their ranking is higher then mine because of it... i should have the same chance to get some easy matches.
want to have a "benchmark" tourney? fine, but don't change BBEANS.
and if you want to compare a robot tournament to anything in real life compare it to robot wars or battlebots.. both had good and bad robots. the Olympics is something very different!
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Ya'know, in my opinion, I think we had TOO much time to prepare.
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You know, in DSL, no offense to the "vets", but their are several non-veterans who are much better at bot building than some of the "vets". And has it ever occured to people that "vets" are just regular people who have some kind of artificial "aura" around them that makes them seem "above" everyone else.
Just thinking.
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some kind of artificial "aura" around them that makes them seem "above" everyone else.
AKA well-earned fame.
I think a 64-bot bracket is possible... and that would be awesome.
Let's see... Inf, me, Scrap, Andrew, Starcore, Phlox, Barbie, Harcsa, Silver, Dragonfire, Wham, Urjak, MNB, Sorrow, Frosty, Man Manu, Spyguy, Kill, maybe ACAMS and Goose, Madiaba... the list goes on.
Still, this is Click's choice.
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That's twenty. I think it's enough.
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a good vet, unless they have a bot ready and made, will spend all the time he can on a good bot for BBEANS.
If a good vet was smart like all of us "noobs", then the good vet would have started working on their bot when the tourney was announced nearly 2 months ago, and had gotten it in to secure their spot. I spent a month on my bot. It takes nearly 5 minutes of loading to get into the bot lab to look at it. It took me nearly a month and around 7 or 8 revisions, and it was done before registration opened. If a "good vet" really wanted to be in this tourney, then a "good vet" would have built their bot earlier, knowing that it is a prestigious tourney. That it has always been allowed for everybody to compete. That there has been more and more users on the forums lately.
This is not the Olympics. This is a game.
This is not a real life tourney, it is a game.
And in this game, the rules are different than a real life tourney.
Any good vet who didn't get their bot in. It is their fault. They were slow in getting their bot in, and they lost out. It is nobody's fault but theirs. And those "good vet"s or others who didn't make it in need to suck it up and accept that they were too slow. Guys, you had two months. Not working on it during that time is like asking to not compete.
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If a good vet was smart like all of us "noobs", then the good vet would have started working on their bot when the tourney was announced nearly 2 months ago, and had gotten it in to secure their spot. I spent a month on my bot. It takes nearly 5 minutes of loading to get into the bot lab to look at it. It took me nearly a month and around 7 or 8 revisions, and it was done before registration opened. If a "good vet" really wanted to be in this tourney, then a "good vet" would have built their bot earlier, knowing that it is a prestigious tourney. That it has always been allowed for everybody to compete. That there has been more and more users on the forums lately.
Wow. No wonder why my bots are only SC2 standard. I spent only an hour to a day on a bot.
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Look, We have got enough members for a 64 bracket, just let it calm down till click replies.
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If a good vet was smart like all of us "noobs", then the good vet would have started working on their bot when the tourney was announced nearly 2 months ago, and had gotten it in to secure their spot. I spent a month on my bot. It takes nearly 5 minutes of loading to get into the bot lab to look at it. It took me nearly a month and around 7 or 8 revisions, and it was done before registration opened. If a "good vet" really wanted to be in this tourney, then a "good vet" would have built their bot earlier, knowing that it is a prestigious tourney. That it has always been allowed for everybody to compete. That there has been more and more users on the forums lately.
This is not the Olympics. This is a game.
This is not a real life tourney, it is a game.
And in this game, the rules are different than a real life tourney.
Any good vet who didn't get their bot in. It is their fault. They were slow in getting their bot in, and they lost out. It is nobody's fault but theirs. And those "good vet"s or others who didn't make it in need to suck it up and accept that they were too slow. Guys, you had two months. Not working on it during that time is like asking to not compete.
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well,but the deadline isnt up yet, is it? when you do homework for school, do you turn it in 2 months early? or the due date?
soccer is a game. it's in the olympics.
Urjak- vets simply mean being around for a long time. a lot of vets are not good at DSL because they are not interested in a game where the only thing that counts is a good wedge. if you notice, most vets have tried dsl. they dropped it because of 'the wedge'.
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soccer is a sport...last time i checked :)
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soccer is a sport...last time i checked :)
well, i always say "I have a soccer game tomorrow!"
instead of "I have a soccer sport tomorrow!"
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well,but the deadline isnt up yet, is it? when you do homework for school, do you turn it in 2 months early? or the due date?
The signups are closed. Unless there's enough interest for a 64 bracket.
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@ sage: a game is one match. the rules, format and such make it a sport.
back on topic, i sent in my new entry :) better then the original i sent in.. another thing some vets could have done ;)
it could go well, or really bad.. based on my luck in BBEANS I'm gonna go with the later.
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well,but the deadline isnt up yet, is it? when you do homework for school, do you turn it in 2 months early? or the due date?
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Not two months, but it gets started earlier. In case a deadline comes quicker than expected, and you need it. Because if it is done quickly, then you are ready for whenever it is due.
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@ sage: a game is one match. the rules, format and such make it a sport.
thanks.
and @ redline-
oh.
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I dont get a lot of time to use my computer, and when I do use it, I've got a lot of stuff to do on it. However, I probably could have gotten my bot in on time if I'd tried harder. Iguess I just didn't care enough. Not to say that I didn't want to enter....
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Not to say that I didn't want to enter....
We all want to enter though. Exactly the problem.
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Well guys, click said what size bracket he was doing from the beginning and it filled up. It's our loss that we weren't on the ball like we should have been. I don't see anyone else around here hosting a 32 person bracket, let alone a 64. You need to take into consideration all the effort it would take to AI 64 bots, record hundreds of matches, etc. Believe me, I'm bummed out that I forgot too. But look at it from click's POV.
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kill343gs makes another good point, adding up to another 32 entries just doubles the work. i hosted the tag team tournament which i had to fix up the bindings file for all 32 robots (most AI was done by the builders) and for the 16 teams it took about 32 videos! which i had to edit with movie maker cause fraps saves massive files then upload all of them then link them all... that took a lot of work and time.
think about the work click would have to do, its not as simple as "sure lets add another 32 bots".
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If Click decides to up it to 64, it would mean he would have to: AI 50+ robots, record 192 fights, edit and compile them into 132 videos, then upload all the videos onto his website. Do you really want to double the work Click has to do?
Just be thankful Click host tournaments at all. We're demanding to double the size of the tourny, whilst he works on a overhaul of DSL. You 64'ers are just demanding more and more from this guy, give him a break for once.
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Well guys, click said what size bracket he was doing from the beginning and it filled up. It's our loss that we weren't on the ball like we should have been. I don't see anyone else around here hosting a 32 person bracket, let alone a 64. You need to take into consideration all the effort it would take to AI 64 bots, record hundreds of matches, etc. Believe me, I'm bummed out that I forgot too. But look at it from click's POV.
Best point of the entire argument. I have officially switched to the 32 bot bracket side, for the sake of getting this tourney up and going. Click does so much for us already.
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I personally never thought Click should have increased the amount, I just would have entered if he did.
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Adding 32 more slots is not necessarily 32 more contestants. I don't think there are that many more that would jump in.
I declared early that I was interested that I wanted to be involved but had planned on sending in my bot during the last week based on work and life load.
If the tournament is full at 32 so be it. Let me know if there is room for me to send in an entry. If not have fun everyone....
Starcore
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I would like to send an entry too, if I can have a little time to get it ready.
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Can we first of all just have people on a list who would sign up if it was a 64 bot bracket. Then we know if it would be another 32 contestants or just 10. It doesn't mean anything like that has to happen just to see if we get the numbers.
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a game where the only thing that counts is a good wedge.
Wrong. I have many examples of a bot with a good wedge getting beaten by another bot without any wedge.
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SnS's and Sheck spinners don't have wedges, yet prove to be very deadly.
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At least I won't have to fight Starcore... but I wish that him and some of the other well known builders here could of gotten in. Thats why I built mine right after Click announced the Tournament and why I sent it when he posted this thread.
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I still say we have enough people for a 64 bracket matchup.
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Have you guys decided to have eaither 32 or 64 yet??/
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it should be staying at 32, it's not fair to give anyone else more time to get a robot built and sent in.
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we have plenty for 64.
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Someone just start a thread to compile entrants. Anybody else who wants in could post there, just to get a head count on how many.
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Holey swiss cheese, I didn't expect such an uproar.
OK, this is how it's going to work.
For the time being, the bracket will stay at 32.
But I'll do the thing I did in BBEANS3. Anyone who still wants to enter can send me their bots. You'll be put on a "waiting list" which is a list of all the people that will be entered if the bracket is expanded.
If I get 16 people on the waiting list (enough to organize the bracket so two byes never fight each other) then I will use a bigger bracket.
Posting here doesn't count. You must submit a bot to be put on the waiting list, because posting "I'm in" or somesuch isn't a reliable indicator of the number of people that will actually enter.
Also keep in mind that if you support a bigger bracket, you're supporting more work for me and you'd better be prepared to deal with a longer wait before I start posting videos.
So have at it! Prove to me that we can actually get enough people for a 64-bot tourney! Send a bot yourself and contact any old vets you might know! (I heard someone say that Phlox and Barbie are on Youtube a lot?)
Truth be told, I'd be happy to do a 64-bot bracket if it meant getting a few more of the vets in, I just didn't think I would get enough bots. Apparently most of you think otherwise. So show me I'm wrong.
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One thing I will not do, however, is exclude people based on their experience or their quality. I don't want BBEANS becoming some exclusive, elitist "club". Maybe it's the biggest and most prestigious tourney here, but it's always been open to anybody. If I didn't let in newbies, we wouldn't have people like somestrangeguy (who was totally unknown when he first entered BBEANS3 as Destroyer), or Sage (who was still a newbie and wasn't yet making the killer bots he does now), or Phlox and Barbie (who weren't even registered on the forum when they entered BBEANS1), and the list goes on. My point is, it's good to give the newbies a chance, even if their bots are SFTWs. Just look at Phlox and Barbie's BBEANS1 bots and compare them to their BBEANS3 bots.
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Now, one last thing. There are only 3 more days before March 29, the official end date for registration. I realize that's not enough time to get the bots I would need. So, registration for the waiting list starts NOW and the LAST day you can enter is SATURDAY APRIL 4.
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Thank you very much for ending this riot. For the sake of a bigger and better tourney, I would be willing to wait longer for vids. (More suspense :biggrin:)
I sent a Youtube PM to PhloxBarbie (as they are known), and am waiting for a response. According to Youtube, they haven't been on in a month.
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i sent you glenku's bot already a couple of days ago so i guess that means he is on the waiting list.
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Heh he heh... I kinda feel responsible for this uproar.
But what if we surpass 16 entrants? Would it go for a full pledged 64 bot tourney?
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I need at least 16 bots. If I get more than that, great. Just as long as I don't get over 64 and people start pushing for a 128-bot bracket... that would be too much.
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hey click... if you ever need help im open for a little work.
doing GUMBA with mad has shown me how much faster a tourney can go if theres two people working on it.
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Thank you Click for ending the uproar.
I didn't have anything against newbies participating in BBEANS, it's just that I didn't think it was fair that the people who have put in so much time and effort to the community wouldn't have the chance to participate in the biggest and most important tourney we have here.
Send in your bots ASAP guys, lets get enough so that we can have a 64-bot bracket with as few byes as possible.
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^^listen to him guys.
Anyways i have plans for a bot and not a popup, and an uncommon one. Will send it this weekend...
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Ok, 64-bot bracket... very good, many bots, more interesting, more competition... but...
This brings one 'LIL' problem :
I didn't have much free time (like many others here), so i submit an average bot, since i didn't have time to build something better in the submition period. Now the new 32 ent. will have more time for building and testing and stuff than US (guys that submit earlyer)... A DISADVANTAGE...
SO?...
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that's what i was trying to get at venko, I'm sure a few people rushed to get their entry in on time.
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not really.. because people stopped building when the thing closed, and click just gave them that time back.
anyways lets just go with click here. no more arguments.
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Ok, 64-bot bracket... very good, many bots, more interesting, more competition... but...
This brings one 'LIL' problem :
I didn't have much free time (like many others here), so i submit an average bot, since i didn't have time to build something better in the submition period. Now the new 32 ent. will have more time for building and testing and stuff than US (guys that submit earlyer)... A DISADVANTAGE...
SO?...
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Changing and Updating your Entry[/u]
You can change your entry at any time for as long as I haven't AI'd it. I will wait at least one week after I get your bot to start AI'ing it, so you have one week guaranteed in which you can change your entry. After that you're gambling.
You can change your entry only one time.
If you AI'd your own bot, you can change your entry one time anytime before the tournament starts.
Updating your entry is different. You can update your bot as many times as you want, anytime before the tournament starts. This is for minor tweaks, like wedge position and armor placement. In order to be counted as an update and not a change, your new bot must be basically the same as your old one, and be able to use the same AI bindings as the old one.
The one exception is if for some reason your bot is unable to fight, I will give you a chance to change it.
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Wow.... that was a win.
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Not a win... sorry...
Reading the Click rules I think its too late to send a COMPLETELY different type of bot that will need new AI-ing and stuff. Probably Click allready AI it.
Plus, Sage what you say its not true cos people believe that will be a 64 b. so they didn't stop theyr work on bots.
64 B. STATUS : ***STILL UNFAIR***
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I'm sure sending a better bot won't do much harm.
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40757, your train to Pwnager of Venko Land is arriving at the station. Come on guys, send those bots!
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venko cries too hard on the e
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Thank you for settling this Click.
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i submit an average bot, since i didn't have time to build something better in the submition period.
1. That bot is not average. Generic, maybe, but it's high-end, top-performance generic.
2. If the current rate of waiting list entries keeps up, there's not going to be a 64-bot bracket anyway and you won't need to worry about it.
3. Speaking of which, we're at a measly 5 waiting list bots right now. Come on, guys, you're going to have to do better than that if you want a bigger bracket.
Also, progress report: I have 29 bots AI'd right now. Almost to 32!
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gosh i thought it would have been filled up by now. still no defending champ hmm? i love how they win one and chicken out, its like they know they won't go as good next time xD come on naryar!
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ACAMS is right, The french are chicken!
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gosh i thought it would have been filled up by now. still no defending champ hmm? i love how they win one and chicken out, its like they know they won't go as good next time xD come on naryar!
D'you think it's that easy to make a bot that is not only uncommon, but decently cool-looking and combat efficient?
ACAMS is right, The french are chicken!
You and your really brilliant choice of a multibot... just shut up.
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I messaged both eFFe and luigica. Dunno if they will get one in or not. Also found metal virus. said he doesnt want to.
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You and your really brilliant choice of a multibot... just shut up.
At least I didn't chicken out. :tongue:
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I will send a bot (just doing some finishing touches), and I already talked my brother into letting me send in one of his bots. So that's two more right there....
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D'you think it's that easy to make a bot that is not only uncommon, but decently cool-looking and combat efficient?
last time i checked, the bot doesnt have to be pretty O.o btw a HS has always won stock BBEANS... just build something you think might go well...anything! :evilsmile:
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last time i checked, the bot doesnt have to be pretty O.o btw a HS has always won stock BBEANS... just build something you think might go well...anything! :evilsmile:
I hope for the sake of change... that a different type of bot wins this time around. Hopefully there are not a lot of popups... my bot does not fare well against those.
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I'll message Jet-speed and ask if he wants to compete.
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i tried to get botreactor but he wasn't interested. it seems like a lot of people are losing interest.. we need to get more new people into the game -.-
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The real builders are interested.
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The real builders are interested.
Ouch.
That actually seems to beat down a few oldtime veterans and pros.
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Ouch.
That actually seems to beat down a few oldtime veterans and pros.
no...your new here...so obviously you dont know who the 'oldtime veterans and pros' are.
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no...your new here...so obviously you dont know who the 'oldtime veterans and pros' are.
.... I was here in 2003. RyanRulez/Justice[insert random numbers here]
Why do you think I put "RA/RA2 oldtimer. Now with 30% less suck." in my sig?
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Well.... for the sake of sake, I will enter a bot to you very soon Click.
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Sent mine to you click
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I'll tell n500 about the waiting list.
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.... I was here in 2003. RyanRulez/Justice[insert random numbers here]
Why do you think I put "RA/RA2 oldtimer. Now with 30% less suck." in my sig?
I don't remember you at all. Were you a n00b?
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I don't remember you at all. Were you a n00b?
Might of left for Technex's forums when you came along.
Either way, think of a special needs 10~11 year old with ADD.
Whatever it really was, it haunts me now.
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Anyway.. um.. let's get back on topic. We don't know what each other's bots are.. but who do you think has a good chance of winning this?
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Pysc has a new awesome popup. Click can boot people out of the arena with his giant disc weapon. Mine has good defense. Inf's has great offense.
And then theres always the dark horses...
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Such as stratocaster, which can get 11k with a good charge... Unfortunatly the arena blocks such a hit.
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Pysc has a new awesome popup. Click can boot people out of the arena with his giant disc weapon. Mine has good defense. Inf's has great offense.
And then theres always the dark horses...
Hmm.. are you saying that people are showing off their BBEANS bots ahead of the splash?
Or are you just commenting on their current form or/and possible entries?
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Hmm.. are you saying that people are showing off their BBEANS bots ahead of the splash?
Or are you just commenting on their current form or/and possible entries?
I have connections. But I haven't played them online yet. So i dont know exactly how good they are.
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Probably through facing them online.
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Such as stratocaster, which can get 11k with a good charge... Unfortunatly the arena blocks such a hit.
That hasn't stopped anyone else from entering a rammer. Nor should it stop you.
Seriously, there are more rammers than horizontal spinners right now. Well maybe not quite, but it's at least close. I'd have to count to be sure.
Also, we're now halfway to the 16 bots I need for the bigger bracket. It's still possible to reach the goal by Saturday, but it's going to be close. Any of you people sitting on the fence with a bot ready or nearly ready, now's the time to send them in (remember, you can always change it once within a week of entering).
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I may try to build a SNS just to help fill up the bracket.
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Seriously, there are more rammers than horizontal spinners right now. Well maybe :):):) quite, but it's at least close. I'd have to count to be sure.
Either way I'm :):):) exactly liking those stats.
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Registered for the waiting list XD
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Good to see a new user who knows how to end his bot without asking.
By the way, the BBEANS V2 ar.ena link doesn't work anymore.
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That's cause BBEANS V2 :):):):):) doesn't exist.
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Yes it does. Its the :):):):):) with the blade and the flippers.
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Eh, I mean the 4r3n4 exists, but a link with ":]:]:]:]:]" in the name doesn't.
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Did you get my entry Clickbeetle?
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Err, i said i was going to enter, i have my entry ready aswell :/
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.... I was here in 2003. RyanRulez/Justice[insert random numbers here]
Why do you think I put "RA/RA2 oldtimer. Now with 30% less suck." in my sig?
RyanRulez .... hey, I got your old Portable Nuclear Reactor, made from a small battery pack - copied and modified it slightly to be a PNR cooling wastegate for the air .......
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I'll probably send mine tonight. Prolly going to be Cocytus V4
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N500's gonna get hers in probably tomorrow.
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so much for all the vets people were talking about hey... i get the feeling trying to get this to 64 was a waste of time. next time people wanna complain about lack of vets, maybe you should check if they would join before you go and throw their names out like that.
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Yeah.........
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on another note, i wish i stuck with my original entry.. the one i changed it for isn't as good (did some more tests) >.<
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After losing everything i'm lazy as heck to reinstall everything and build something.
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RyanRulez .... hey, I got your old Portable Nuclear Reactor, made from a small battery pack - copied and modified it slightly to be a PNR cooling wastegate for the air .......
You're going to have to send me that.
I don't even remember attempting to make something like it.
Unless it's just a text file edit.
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Has there been any talk of allowing Madiaba's .1 KG Smartzones for the weight and or the shapes?
I was packaging up my entry and noticed it had the Mad Smartzone as part of helping to standardize it in Starcore v4 Pack.
Would be a royal pain to send it in and be rejected for using a non-standard smartzone. The Bot Parts are Stock. Had just used the Smartzone we had discussed allowing for Stock AI in the forums.
Please let me know before I send in. Would rather not be disqualified for sending in an improper bot.
Thanks,
Starcore
P.S. My other choice for a sit and spinner is to put 4 Large Smart Zones at North, South, East, and West for an over head of 8KG and would still leave detection gaps. That or switch to another bot.
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Has there been any talk of allowing Madiaba's .1 KG Smartzones for the weight and or the shapes?
I was packaging up my entry and noticed it had the Mad Smartzone as part of helping to standardize it in Starcore v4 Pack.
Would be a royal pain to send it in and be rejected for using a non-standard smartzone. The Bot Parts are Stock. Had just used the Smartzone we had discussed allowing for Stock AI in the forums.
Please let me know before I send in. Would rather not be disqualified for sending in an improper bot.
Thanks,
Starcore
Mad's smartzones work. Clickbeetle has them i believe. I'm sure they are fine.
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Am i being left out?
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Not if you send your bot.
btw, all bots apparently have to be in TODAY...
SO SEND THEM, or else there will be no 64 bot bracket.
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No WAY we're gonna get 7 entries in today.
(What was that with inf & SD ticked off that they didn't get their entries in..?)
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Wait Reier, Click has not updated his waiting list in quite a while, so there may be more people in it then it seems.
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I sent in my entry this morning.
Good luck everyone!
Starcore
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I will try to reinstall stock and build PitA 7.
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No WAY we're gonna get 7 entries in today.
(What was that with inf & SD ticked off that they didn't get their entries in..?)
I think you may be wrong. Like Urjak said Click has not updates in a while.
But then again he still might not get enough entrys.
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Reier is probably right, people were just throwing names out of any vet they know such as barbie and phlox but no one even asked if they would join and honestly i think a few people have lost interest in the game (it's happen to me before).
and click has updated the waiting list pretty often so i find it hard to believe another 7 would have sent in entries. we could be wrong and hopefully we are.
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Waiting list was last updated 3 days ago. Wham, Inf, and SD said that they wanted to send bots.Starcore sent one. Nerd500 is supposedly sending one. Naryar is going to try
Wham
Inf
SD
Starcore
N500
Nary
There is 6 right there.
And btw, I betcha that someone here could get a sibling to build a bot too.
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Don't forget me too. I also entered.
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Building PitA 7 - expect something built in 1-2 hours however...
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sending stratocaster once i get it off of my other computer...
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We're definitely going to do it.
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so the higher ranked builders get a bye first round... more chance to get any easy win i guess.
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What are you talking about Ian?
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only 16 more means there will be bye rounds, it's happened before.. and i think the higher ranked BBEANS competitors who entered will get a bye first round, so no one will face clickbeetle in the first round which gives people a better chance to win a match :P
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PitA 7 is built... just need some beta testing and the skiiiiiiinnn
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Clickbeetle, Clickbeetle, where for art thou Clickbeetle...
Because I'm really curious about how many more people went in goddammit!
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I sent my brother's bot in, now all I can do is wait....
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SENT MY ENTRY !!!!1!
Edit: And it has the best wedge i've ever built. It sometimes goes under NWB.
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15 people on the waiting list now!!!
I'm going to check my e-mail and PMs again tomorrow, and if there's at least one more entry, the 64-bot bracket is a go.
So infiniteinertia... Scrap Daddy... Wham... nerd500... maybe SpyGuy... if you're planning on entering, now's the time to do it. Your entry could make the difference between 32 and 48+ bots.
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Would be good for people to consider IMing or Emailing them directly incase they were not in position to see these forums today.
Starcore
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I can easily submit proxy (Starcore v4 tuned) bots from Rejected or others from years gone by that have been tuned and enhanced if needed.
Starcore
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Can I send in my pals HW?
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I think so.
@Starcore: I think that's a great idea. We'll have more good bots and less byes.
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Can I send in my pals HW?
As long as your friend knows about you doing it....
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If you have siblings or friends who play RA2, they can enter. But just make sure that it's their decision to enter and not yours. Don't just find someone else's bot and send it saying "This person is entering!"
On that note, I think sending bots from old veterans like Rejected in absentia is going a little too far. Something seems wrong with somebody being in a tournament without knowing it. And there's also the question of how to distribute the prizes if they win anything. So... no. But thanks for trying to help.
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yeh i know aboot it mates. hows yhoo boys doin . . ?
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if they built the robot and you have it on your computer just ask them if they would like you to enter their robot for them in BBEANS, that's what i did with my friend.
pity my bro doesn't play >.<
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dinnae worry. Rab will get it in fer me.
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Hmm.. if the extended bracket goes ahead, it'd be more interesting... though I'm still sided with 32 because of the clear deadline given.
Oh well. Let's see what happens.
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This will be interesting... and I hope I can get a bye.
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I think its kinda good that my bro dosnt play(more time for me:)
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I could probably get my sis to build another bot, or if not, just ask her if she would want me to send that Fuzzy Bear 2 bot in my showcase for her. But only if we really need one more person.
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I got System32's friend's bot, so we're safe at 16 now.
THE 64-BOT BRACKET IS GO!
Though we're still only at 48 bots. Plenty of room still if anyone else wants to make a last minute entry!
Edit: ALSO, IMPORTANT RULE UPDATE.
In the interest of minimizing video file size and keeping matches to a reasonable length, I'm switching the fight time limit to 2 minutes instead of 3. I will edit the BBEANS arena py accordingly in order to make the hazards activate at the proper time (the blade after 40 seconds, and the flippers after 80).
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THE 64-BOT BRACKET IS GO!
Mandatory BBEANS5 comment on the Wiki about how the controversy started before the signups even ended (Or roughly the same time, anyway)
In the interest of minimizing video file size and keeping matches to a reasonable length, I'm switching the fight time limit to 2 minutes instead of 3. I will edit the BBEANS arena py accordingly in order to make the hazards activate at the proper time (the blade after 40 seconds, and the flippers after 80).
Sounds cool. Probably going to be quite a few WBPs, though maybe not considering the level of bots.
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Sent...
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I think that now this will be a better tourney, because I think that there were going to be many quick kills, and that the arena wouldn't come into play. And it still might not. I am predicting very few WBPs.
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So if more people sign up, will they be put on a waiting list, and we'll have a 48 bot or 64 bot tourney? Or have no waiting list and risk having a 55 bot tourney or something?
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It's always been a waiting list for a 64-bot tourney. I just needed 48 bots to make the byes fit nicely so two byes would never fight each other. There's nothing wrong with having more than 48.
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If you have siblings or friends who play RA2, they can enter. But just make sure that it's their decision to enter and not yours. Don't just find someone else's bot and send it saying "This person is entering!"
On that note, I think sending bots from old veterans like Rejected in absentia is going a little too far. Something seems wrong with somebody being in a tournament without knowing it. And there's also the question of how to distribute the prizes if they win anything. So... no. But thanks for trying to help.
I agree about the in absentia being a problem. Just hated seeing it not happen for lack of just 1 slot for example.
Starcore
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I have an entry.....will send in a sec or three
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Huh, I'm impressed by you two. And a little envious too.
I just haven't had the time...
Good Luck.
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Surely you have some stock HW you could send in Madiaba? Its worth making a showing.
Starcore
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Finally found Mad's smartzone pack ...AI-ing my bot.
EDIT: I will probably build something else more original. Will check which is in overall better.
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Are we ready yet to have a separate thread of "BBEANS5 Bot Entry Showcase" for people to show what they submitted and why they feel their bot is stellar or a victim waiting to happen?
Starcore
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Thats not a bad idea......
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Some things to mention :
1.This can be good, BUT ONLY AFTER all entrants are already sended theyr bots, and the barcked is REALLY CLOSED this time, and even small bot upgrades are not allowed anymore.
2.I think it will be more fair, if the first 32 entrants have a bye (skiping) the first round (not the better bot builders), 'cos they have smaller building time compared to the new 32 entrants.
3.My roommate has agreed to submit his bot for the BBEANS 5. (His bot is like STARCORE 2-3 LEVEL (I EXPLAINED TO HIM SOME GLITCHES) so it will be not that bad, as like some others here...) So, ClickB... When is the deadline for the 64 barcked?
4.MAAAAAAAAAD. Send something for the tournament, god d**n it...
5.Something interesting here... Since, my home PC is with ATI and the laptop is with ATI too, i discovered, that is kinda easy to stack parts. But when i sit on my roommate laptop, he is with nVidia, i realize that is VERY VERY HARD to stack. Even the colliding component surfaces look kinda strange (not like on my laptop). So this may be something with the rendering architecture of the video cards. Maybe this helps me to stack. Did anyone knows something about this? I think its a good myth for the RA2 mythbusters...
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All first 32 entrants get a bye?! I think that is too many byes.
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YES... ALL of them...
Too many byes? Maybe yes... But the fairplay require it...
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*ahem*
NO.
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With 48 bots we will get 16 matches with 2 bots, and 16 matches with a bye. So it's not possible that 32 bots get a bye in the first round. Also all of the loosers in the first round will get a bye in the first round of loosers bracket.
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I have an entry.....will send in a sec or three
Well I didn't get one, so unless a 'sec' here means a couple hours, you'll have to resend it.
Actually, registration officially ended today. If you encountered some unavoidable problem and weren't able to get your bot in on time, that's understandable and I'll still accept your entry. (Plus it would just be cool having three former champions in this tournament.)
But for everyone else, registration is now closed. For real this time. I'll wait a week, finish up with my AI'ing while I give all the late entrants a chance to change entries if they want, and then I'll post pictures of the bots, maybe brackets too, all that cool stuff.
I'm pretty sure everyone who really wanted to be in is in now. If there's any of you who aren't... well, if you have a good excuse I might listen, but otherwise, registration has dragged on too long already, you had plenty of time to get a bot ready, and I don't really want a continuously increasing backlog of bots to AI.
Are we ready yet to have a separate thread of "BBEANS5 Bot Entry Showcase" for people to show what they submitted and why they feel their bot is stellar or a victim waiting to happen?
Starcore
If people want to show what bot they're using for BBEANS, that's not for me to say whether or not it's allowed. Several people already have, in fact... it's no secret that I'm using Heaven's Sawmill or that Sage is using Bumble Bee, for example.
But I'm going to post a splash of all the bots in about a week or so, in the "Brackets and Videos" thread I will create, at which point no one will be allowed to update their entries anymore. So I don't think there's a need for a separate "BBEANS showcase" thread when all the discussion is going to shift to "Brackets and Videos" in about a week anyway.
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Click, i'm going to change my entry, so you can get rid of PitA 7.
But more important, since a lot of the matches are probably going to be havok fests, what about restarting conditions because of havok explosions ?
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well if your havok changes the outcome of the match once, the match gets a restart then if it happens again your robot forfeits... I'm pretty sure that's right
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But what if it is undetermined who caused the havok?
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it's usually pretty obvious who causes it, cause a motor will come off or something and it will cause a havok. we have had a robot forfeit before in BBEANS 3 from havoking.
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Which fight?
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3.14ston.
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I sent in a very updated bot to Click. I am very excited. The idea for it came to me in the shower (where I do some of my best thinking). Its not radically new or anything but I feel it is quite powerful and should do well in this tourney. Looking forward to the go ahead to start showing off bots.
The theme even honors an upcoming movie...
Starcore
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oh no.. retractable claws! O.o looking forward to seeing the entries.
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I sent in a very updated bot to Click. I am very excited. The idea for it came to me in the shower (where I do some of my best thinking). Its not radically new or anything but I feel it is quite powerful and should do well in this tourney. Looking forward to the go ahead to start showing off bots.
The theme even honors an upcoming movie...
Starcore
:O I'm getting excited now!
Hey guys, do you think i should enter a new bot instead (Just built it, best wedge in the game, gets under everything and anything)
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Wedges have challenges as AI. If you can get the timing right could be fun. Some of the newer AI routines that check for opponent chassis instead of opponent weapons helps alot.
I stayed within my 1 week update window. If you still are in that window or get permission from Click, send in what you are most proud of.
Starcore
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Expect an entry change in 2-3 hours... AI-ed and ready to fight.
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All right guys, here it is... the long-awaited splash!
(Why is it called a "splash", anyway? Does anyone know?)
http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/entries5.jpg
No brackets yet, but they're coming. I have 99.9% of the AI'ing done. So the tournament should be starting shortly.
This also means that no more entry changes or updates are being accepted. The bots are locked as they are now, for better or worse.
(Why is Trovaner's bot out of place? 'Cause he wanted to change the name just before I uploaded the splash, and rearranging all the bots from Shock Therapy through The Emancipator just to put Shadow Tyrant in alphabetical order was more work than it would be worth.)
53 bots... all you folks who like to write a paragraph about each bot have a lot of work ahead of you. :mrgreen:
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not enough HS's imo :P
I'll wait for the brackets/splash topic to make any predictions.
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yay im in bbeans 5
Oscillation Overthruster (name is a bzflag reference)
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TOO MUCH HS !!!!
Edit: Roboman, your bot is in here.
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Let's see here, about 20 I fear, maybe 10 at best I think I can easily beat, the rest I'm netural too. Should be good.
Thanks Click for the Splash.
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Roboman, it's in there. 1st column, 7th row.
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not enough HS's imo :P
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And thank god for that. Looking forward to this tournament, and reading what ppl thinks about the bots (if someone takes the time to write about all 53). Makes the time go faster while working night :D
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I'll do mine in segments.
Top five IMO:
Absolute Chaos
Heaven's Sawmill
Bounty Hunter
Bumble Bee
Cocytus IV
Magnum: It looks scary but I doubt it'll go far.
AC: One of the best in this tournament IMO. Could be beaten by one of these popups, though.
Acupuncture: A decent rammer, it'll get a few nice matches.
AntiC V.Pincer: Unless those Weapons are attached to two burst motors creating a clamp effect, it'll fail. (am I correct?)
Black Cat: Decent VS, but it'll lose against some of the other bots.
Blood Shed: Another nice rammer, It'll do great against most of the competitors.
Bounty Hunter: He's in my top five. Possible Rumble participant.
Bumble Bee: The only Anti Popup here IMO. This'll prove to be a nice one to watch.
Cheronobyl: This bot will either be a disaster, or cause the opposition to "Meltdown".
Cocytus IV: NWB update, This bot smells fear, and feeds off it.
Consonant/Vowel: My bots. I expect Consonant to die first, but Vowel is the main problem.
Copyright Infringement: Nasty HS, I like the way it looks. It'll not get too far, but it'll look decent.
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As long as a popup gets to Dark July, Generic Rammer, or Cardiac Arrest before I get to one of them, I am very confident. Only Venko and Starcore have HSerz I think could compete with AC*.
EDIT: Hah, You should see what AC does to popups S32...
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Damn. More VS and Jugglers than i thought there would be. In this low walled arena, I WILL lose to those types of bots. (Cept the crappy ones)
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I Just noticed there were five bots in a row. LOL!
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I'm proud to have entered the only robot with samurai swords.
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I don't like my chances. One good thing is that i don't see a single hint of caster armor excepted for me and Pysc... and no belly caster armor.
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Bots I forgot:
Big Flip's revenge: I'd like to fight them. Will do well against the hordes of SFTW's, until it gets to the good bots.
Cardiac arrest: Inf has worries about this bot. I have worries about which member of the audience it'll hit when it faces a wedged popup.
Crawl through knives: I'd rather not. I like it.
Back to the brackets:
Dark July: Cardiac Arrest with Grannies and a possibly weaker drive.
Death Dealer: Not a good HS. I expect it to lose after the first match.
DGSG/IDRODI: Best multibot IMO. I'd like to battle these bots in the brackets.
Metal Boi: Robloxstar from Youtube's bot? This'll be fun to watch.
Gears your lever: Main Menu's Main mistake: It's not invertible.
Generic Rammer: Another Rammer. These are getting annoying. It'll go as far as most others though.
grinnin face: My pal's bot. onr minute after me showing him stuff. Cola was a bad Idea...
Gut ripper 2: Stacking weapons fail.
Heven's Sawmill: Gulp.
Hellbringer: It'll do nicely against HS, but popups, IDK.
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I'll rape all these rammers, wedgeless bots and weak hs. A Pop-up or HS I guarentee is what is going to knock me out.
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<---Money on Bumble Bee, as long as it survives Bounty Hunter
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45-70 Magnum - Good all round bot here and should expect nothing less from the #1 ranked competitor... I don't see many weaknesses here, this bot will go far.
Absolute chaos - 1st of the hugely stack horizontal spinners, INF is ranked 5 in BBEANS so this bot should go far.. however some certain robots could cause it a few problems.
Acupunture - looks ok, invertible from what i can see and has a wedge.. it may not have enough weapons to be a threat to most others.
Anti-christ V.Pincer - that damn ant bot that Havoks and stuff! it's stronger then it looks, the wedges are to stop rammers and other HS's weapons. should go ok.
Big Flip's Revenge - could 2 pop-ups be better then 1? for some reason i like this entry and i believe it could get at least 1 win and is probably one of the better of the multi-bot entries.
Black Cat Magic - an interesting robot... i think there is more then just those 2 spinning weapons and wedge.. possibly a flipper or popup/VS hybrid? if it is.. it could do pretty well.
Blood Shed - the weapons used on this rammer aren't as effective as they could be, will be lucky to win a match imo.
Bounty Hunter - looks very well built as you would expect from Pyscolone, this bot will go far.
Bumble Bee - the Anti pop-up... should do well but i question it's stability and control with the low arena walls it might get bumped into orbit by a fast rammer or sent into orbit from a VS, it might go far depending on the draw.
Cardiac Arrest - looks like the best rammer here, could cause real problems for HS's. capable of getting a couple of wins imo.. unless it faces something with a wedge.
Chernobyl - another stacked HS, capable of getting a few wins.
Cocytus IV - an upgraded NWB will cause problems for most robots, this robot should go far and possibly finish top 4.
Consonant/Vowel - another multi-bot.. not really sure how this entry will fair, i'm thinking it could go ok and might get a win.
Copyright Infringement - Stacked HS, will go ok depending on the draw and i'm not sure how it will far against some of the other HS's.
Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - another juggler and looks pretty well built, one of the best rookie entries i see and will probably get the award for best rookie.
Dark July - lots of weapons but it's gonna be slow and easy to get under for most, not that great but could get a win.
Death Dealer - Meganerdbomb is ranked #18 in BBEANS but this entry looks like a pretty average HS, i think the lower spinners could be there to cause pop-ups trouble, should get a win or 2.
DGSG/IDRODI - a pretty good looking multi-bot with rammer and popup could cause some problems for most entries.
'Eavy Metal Boi - not sure if it's a rammer or poker, looks pretty durable but i don't think it will go far.
gears your lever - 2 smaller HS's will be weaker then 1 bigger one. looks like a strong entry though and could get at least 1 win.
Generic Rammer - not the worst rammer here but i still don't like it's chance, could get a win though.
grinnin face - i wouldn't be grinnin if this were my entry, it will get destroyed by pop-ups, other HS's, Rammers, Jugglers, Face spinners and VS's... well that's everyone.
Gut Ripper 2 - looks like a borg queen setup but not as strong, could get a win.
Heaven's Sawmill - One of my favorite entries from my favorite builder, it should make top 4 at least.
Hellbringer - it's a decent FS and could get a win or 2.
Insult to Injury V - a weak VS, at least the wheels aren't exposed...
Juggernaut Mk. 3 - well its one of the more unique entries.. a rammer that can ram at you from 2 ends could be a better entry then most think.
Mace in da face - another strong HS, another possible winner for best rookie.
Mjorhmei - most random name here imo, hammers aren't that great.. one of the weaker VS's. i dunno might get a win.
No Hype 5 - i think it's the only flipper here, low arena walls might work in it's favor, could cause a few upsests.
Oscillation Overthruster - not the strongest HS but could get a win or 2.
PitA 8 - lots of pop-ups and this is one of the better ones with low ground clearance and good wedges should go far.
R4 - ROBOSH4RK is one of the best pop-up builders and this bot should go far.
Red Radar - a weird little bot here, but one of the weakest entries.. probably won't get a win.
Revenge Of Dr.Wham - looks like a decent pop-up and will probably get a few wins.
SandStorm - My entry and one of the most unique, it has decent speed to get under bots and grind away with the axes, and the HS's will help protect it against attacks from the sides and behind, could get a win but probably won't :P
Seism 13 - 13 will be unlucky for most in this tournament, a strong pop-up that should go far.
Shock Therapy - seems like this robots wants to beat us with defense, pity those plows don't even scratch weapons.. still looks cool and has a cool name, won't get a win.
Spearhead - a really strong poker here, will cause lots of problems for HS's.. could go far.
Stratocaster - a good rammer/poker that could also cause problems for HS's. should get a couple of wins.
SurgicalStrike - a decent pop-up but isn't a strong as the others. will get a win or 2.
T-800 Terminator - a strong entry with plenty of "weapon breakers" as he calls them. a good mix of defense and offense, will go far.
The Baby Warrior - this entry has me confused... it looks like it has a good wedge and it's well protected with plows, if the builder picked better weapons i would give this robot a chance.. could still cause an upset.
the black plague - another strong HS but different setup, could go far.
The Emancipator - A strong VS that's well protected, will get a couple of wins at least.
The Fang Brothers - pretty cool looking, but shouldn't do well due to lack of weapons.
Three Kings - it looks weird and strong... could get a couple of wins.
Triple Play - not enough weapons, probably won't get a win.
Trojan Horse - looks like another decent pop-up, should get at least 1 win.
Tsunami - ... looks tiny, wheel choice is bad and paint job average.. so i'm gonna guess this robot is average at best and will be lucky to get a win.
Shadow Tryant - Trovaner is a great builder and this pop-up will cause problems.
Vela - a decent HS with front protection, however those back wheels will be easy to knock off, could get a win or 2.
Vetearn (typo?) Destroyer - one of the only hammer bots here, looks decent.. maybe a win or 2.
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I'm scared of those lowhitting HSs. Undercutters too if there were any.
Rammers... probably another losing factor.
On the note of (other) multi-bots...
Wonder if S32's HS/undercutter/rammer team will work. Personally more worried about Consonant.
Don't see Pressure's Fang bros getting anywhere. SFTW in multibot poker form.
DGSG/IDRODI (possible name to abbreviation fail) looks toughest of the multis.
Gears Your Lever looks like it could be simply improved.
Bad looking bots:
Fang Brothers as mentioned.
Tsunami. Most likely a popup, but useless without the wedge.
The Baby Warrior. Should of just been a rammer with that spike setup. Poor designing.
Red Radar. Could be much more effective.
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And that concludes a report from the unwise. : /
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A couple quick predictions of my own, since I forgot to say anything in my first post.
Top 5 Most Likely to be Champion:
Absolute Chaos - It has a fearsome reputation, and I see no reason why it can't live up to it here.
Mace in da face - Like AC, but with less exposed wheels and less fear factor. AC vs. Mace would basically be a coin toss.
Bumble Bee - Almost the only way this bot will lose is if it fights a VS, or a popup gets lucky and flips it OOTA.
Bounty Hunter - Caster-armored popup ftw.
PitA 8 - Like Bounty Hunter, this pair is the popup equivalent of AC and Mace in da face.
Other bots to watch out for:
The Emancipator - If it gets under you, this bot is powerful enough to toss most opponents OOTA very quickly. I expect H@zm47's ranking to improve significantly after BBEANS5.
Chernobyl - It doesn't have the reputation of AC or look as pretty as Mace in da face, but a 36-mace HS is still nothing to shake a stick at.
Seism 13 - At first glance it looks like a generic popup, but this bot has a feature no other popup does: adjustable wedges on linear actuators that can be either wide (pictured) or narrow (one wedge in the center). Firebeetle spent a lot of time on Seism's custom AI, and bots like Bounty Hunter and PitA better watch out when it switches to narrow wedge mode...
Big Flip's Revenge - This multibot team will lose to most HS's, but against anything else it stands a very good chance of winning. If even one gets under you, it's usually enough for a KO.
Stratocaster - This bot is actually powerful enough to flip bots over the walls. One of the best of the rammers.
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Redline: Vowel is a HS/SNS hybrid. I'd be more scared of that IMO.
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I think Cocytus IV, Crawl through Knives, and Bounty Hunter will be the hard ones to beat.
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45-70 Magnum - Good 'ol ACAMS has a good bot, but wont win against HSers, strong ones at least. Its wedges will determine if it beats popups or not.
Absolute chaos - Depends on who I face...
Acupunture - Ehhhh. Strat look a like. Weak competitor.
Anti-christ V.Pincer - Doesn't look that bad, can it compete with the big boys?
Big Flip's Revenge - Hate Multi's in stock, but could manage a win or two depending on what kind of draw they get.
Black Cat Magic - Too bad paint jobs mean nothing to performance.
Blood Shed - A strong rammer, with small weapons.
Bounty Hunter - So dangerous against bots of all types. Final four competitor at least. Can it beat the Bee?
Bumble Bee - "Cheap Win 3000." Thatts exactly what it does, wins. Can anyone knock it out of the arena? If not, you're looking at your champion...(gay :P).
Cardiac Arrest - HS = Epic Win. Wedge = Epic Fail.
Chernobyl - Its got 36 maces, but is loosely constructed.
Cocytus IV - How good are the wedges? Very dangerous bot if it gets under its opponents well...
Consonant/Vowel - I hate Multi's. But S32 is an oddball...
Copyright Infringement - A Nice stacked HS...Will compete, will advance as long as it doesn't face one of the well armored popups or a stronger HS. Or a rammer.
Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - Dark Horse. I like Oggie, has strong potential with a good draw.
Dark July - Lots of weapons is good if it draws a thick field of HSers. Wont be good if it gets wedges.
Death Dealer - Well, Depends on what it faces. Less than average HS by today's standards.
DGSG/IDRODI - Would do well in a MultiBot tournament. This isn't a MultiBot tournament,
'Eavy Metal Boi - Bleh. Weak rammer all around.
gears your lever - Worst Multi-Bot.
Generic Rammer - HS = Could Win. Wedge = Will Lose.
grinnin face - Stay away from Nary's cola.
Gut Ripper 2 - looks like a borg queen setup but not as strong, could get a win.
Heaven's Sawmill - Great bot, but people are over hyping it. It'l put on a show but won't finish at the top.
Hellbringer - A pretty good FS. No wedges hurt. We'll see who JD draws.
Insult to Injury V - Is he from the West? Certainly not from the East or the South.
Juggernaut Mk. 3 - Sorry Sol Vector, this rammer will not compete.
Mace in da face - So much for hating Generic 36 weapon HW HSes Venko. Won't be agile enough to compete against the likes of T800, Bounty Hunter, or AC.
Mjorhmei - +1 for the name, -3 for the weapons.
No Hype 5 - No more most boring match award for PB, hopefully. Don't know if it will win, maybe it will.
Oscillation Overthruster - Not a great HS, but let's see who it draws.
PitA 8 - Well weaponed, Well armored, Well built, but will bots glide up its front?
R4 - 20 razors, 0 Armor. Destructive, but fragile, confused about the entry from one of the most gifted builders.
Red Radar - No wins will be amounted.
Revenge Of Dr.Wham - Not a bad bot built by Sir Whammett, but it won't be a contender.
SandStorm - Interesting, HS fodder though.
Seism 13 - Well built, but can it rumble through all the HSes?
Shock Therapy - Ummm.
Spearhead - SSG is underrated. This bot could cause HSes trouble as long as it keeps its wheels on. Wedges could hurt its chances.
Stratocaster - K343's last stand more than likely. Hopefully it will manage a win or two.
SurgicalStrike - No armor is downfall, and more than likely does not have great wedges. We'll see...
T-800 Terminator - Strong entry from 'The Man.' Should do well against all bots. Could be more favorable for popups than other HSes in the tournament. Could do well against other slower HSes. Fast, but can it keep up with AC's speed and power, PitA and Bounty's defense, and the mercy of Tsunami? (OK, the last one was a joke, but it will be a top contender).
The Baby Warrior - Spawn of Clown Grog will not win.
the black plague - Interesting. Unstable. Unarmored. Hmm...
The Emancipator - A quality entry from HAZMAT, will it win? Hopefully the wedges are good enough.
The Fang Brothers - Someone get the peanut butter, please.
Three Kings - Fodder for all sorts of bots.
Triple Play - Weak all around.
Trojan Horse - Could surprise some for a round or two if that wedge functions.
Tsunami - Really, I need the peanut butter. And some clorox.
Shadow Tryant - Most underrated builder on the forum. Will go far
Vela - I think it'll do better than some expect, but won't win against bigger, faster, stronger HSerz.
Vetearn (?) Destroyer - Could do quite well if it draws bots without wedges that arent HSes.
Winner: Bumble Bee
Best Newbie:Oggie
NDSBFSKJDBGKSDBGKAFLLLLL: 45-70 Magnum
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Winner: Bumble Bee
Best Newbie:Oggie
NDSBFSKJDBGKSDBGKAFLLLLL: 45-70 Magnum
Say what?
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Insult to Injury: *STFW pic*
juggernaut: A rammer that takes advantage of the Rammer AI problems. Nice. (Still a loser)
Mace in da face: Venko's BBEANS entry will show that he's not just a pushover. Go venk.
Mjorhmei: Does he know something we don't know, or is he intent on losing?
No hype 5: A popup/flipper hybrid. Nice.
OO: Weakest of almost all other HS. Not going to get far at all.
PitA 8: Naryar has proven himself as a tourney champion, I'm putting a bounty on this bot's head.
R4: I like how those Samuri swords are used. Nice.
Red Radar: Odd. Definate failure.
Dr. Wham: A rammer or a popup... ...who knows.
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I am going to predict that mine will be the SFTW of this tournament. And I have to learn how to stack or I'm ****** in any of the stock tournaments I enter.
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Insult to Injury: *STFW pic*
juggernaut: A rammer that takes advantage of the Rammer AI problems. Nice. (Still a loser)
Mace in da face: Venko's BBEANS entry will show that he's not just a pushover. Go venk.
Mjorhmei: Does he know something we don't know, or is he intent on losing?
No hype 5: A popup/flipper hybrid. Nice.
OO: Weakest of almost all other HS. Not going to get far at all.
PitA 8: Naryar has proven himself as a tourney champion, I'm putting a bounty on this bot's head.
R4: I like how those Samuri swords are used. Nice.
Red Radar: Odd. Definate failure.
Dr. Wham: A rammer or a popup... ...who knows.
Those are blades.
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45-70 Magnum - ACAMS built it so it must be decent. Too slow to kill HS but could pull out some victories
Absolute Chaos - Absolute Chaos. Built by Inf. Destructive. End of Story.
Acupunture - Not the worst bot but not that good. Could win a fight if it faces one of those crappy bots.
Anti-christ V.Pincer - Doesn't look bad but most of its weapons are too back. If it can get in and stop hs with its brackets, it could beat some of the better HS in this tourny.
Big Flip's Revenge - Armorless and underweight compared to other bots. Will get raped by the first HS it fights but could pull off some victories against non-HS.
Black Cat Magic - Exposed wheels, weak weapon, exposed chassis, etc. Again not the worst
Blood Shed - Good rammer. Could get a win or two.
Bounty Hunter - Built by Pys.
Bumble Bee - I see it getting far. I see it raping HS and exposed pop-ups.
Cardiac Arrest - Lots o spikes and decently fast. Could get some wins but no wedge kills it.
Chernobyl- *sigh* It's a 36 macer so it will win some fights. I wish Somebody entered something less gay...
Cocytus IV - One of its wedges is AGOD. I sent Click a resend but I think I was too late. Still should get some wins against rammers and SFTWs. It won't be a match for HS or pop-ups though.
Consonant/Vowel - The SnS is okay but the rammer won't even scratch most HWs. I don't see it doing much in this tourny.
Copyright Infringement - It's a HS so its bound to win a fight. It looks pretty well built too so IDK.
Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - NWB with ramplates instead of razors on the side. I think it may even be NWB...
Dark July - HS will break their own spikes on these weapon racks. Will be killed immediatly by anything with a wedge.
Death Dealer - Could pull off a win against a SFTW. Sorry MTB, won't go far.
DGSG/IDRODI - Probably the best of the multibots. Still going to face all the problems a multibot faces. Especially in stock.
'Eavy Metal Boi - Weak rammer.
gears your lever - Worst of the Multibots
Generic Rammer - Could pull off a win. Exposed sides will probably kill it vs a Hs and no wedge means its a gonner against pop-ups.
grinnin face - :] Suprisingly not the worst
Gut Ripper 2 - Unstablility and weak weapons are probably going to kill it.
Heaven's Sawmill - Awesome bot but doesn't look like it will go too far. Should give a good show though.
Hellbringer - Jack Daniels build pretty solid bots. Should rack up a win or two but will be beaten by stacked HS or a pop-up
Insult to Injury V - hehehe. Funny looking bot. Might be one of the worst.
Juggernaut Mk. 3 - A massive chassis will be prey for pop-ups and exposed corners and low weapon numbers mean it will be beaten pretty quick by HS
Mace in da face - Leave it to the guy who 'builds revolutionary bots' to enter a 36 Mace HS. Will win fights but bleh.
Mjorhmei - Not awful. might get a chance to launch a bot out of the arena.
No Hype 5 - Looks like an upward firing Pop-up. Looks okay. Definatly won't be boring like GBBS and BrasOuvert.
Oscillation Overthruster - Its an Hs and not a very good one. Could win a fight.
PitA 8 - Castor armored pop-ups can never do wrong. Should do well.
R4 - If it survives the initial hit from an hs it will probably 1HKO but its other fights depend on how good the wedge is.
Red Radar - Original! but no..
Revenge Of Dr.Wham - Not a bad pop-up. Will win a fight but not much more.
SandStorm - I'd like to see how this one will work out. Depending on its draw Ianh might go winless again!!
Seism 13 - Very well made. Should get far.
Shock Therapy - Too many snowplows for its own good...
Spearhead - Could prove troublesome for HS. Won't be a problem for pop-ups though.
Stratocaster - One of Kill's signature bots. Its very good but probably will get beat by Hs and Pop-ups.
SurgicalStrike - Exposed as heck. Wont last too long
T-800 Terminator - Good bot. Hopefully SC will improve on his 48 rankings
The Baby Warrior - SFTW
the black plague - Looks wild. Could beat a couple unarmored bots just cus its an HS.
The Emancipator - A very good suprise from H@zM@T. Could do well if its wedges are any good.
The Fang Brothers - Even bigger SFTW
Three Kings - Looks cool but probably sucks
Triple Play - One of the worst.
Trojan Horse - Could win a few depending on how that weapon fires...
Tsunami - Be afraid. Could go all the way.
Shadow Tryant - I think theres more to this bot than we can see. Trovs a smart guy so I bet thats like 8 ramplates.
Vela - Its a Hs so could win a few.
Vetearn Destroyer - Cool bot. Could win a few fights.
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45-70 Magnum - Cool, and it should have a decent run, but the Pure HS's will trouble it.
Absolute Chaos - Basically the original Pure HS. Rammers and certain popups might be a problem.
Acupuncture - It's drive is powerful enough to give many HS's difficulty, but it has few weapons for a HW rammer.
Anti-Christ - Exposed motors and most of it's weapons may never contact an enemy. Won't last too long.
Big Flip's Revenge - A couple of solid MW's could give Rammers, VS's and Popups some trouble, but a HS will easily kill them.
Black Cat Magic - No wedge, exposed front chassis, and only 8 maces as well as weak drive. Won't do well.
Blood Shed - The best Rammer IMO. Might have a good run if it's lucky, or it might be out quickly.
Bounty Hunter - One of the top bots, but few weapons might be this bot's one downfall.
Bumble Bee - GHEEEEYYYY
Cardiac Arrest - Second-best Rammer. See: Blood Shed.
Chernobyl - Another Pure HS. It should do just as good as AC.
Cocytus - A very good Juggler. If it's wedges are good, it should do just fine.
Constant / Vowel - The S&S is decent, but the rammer isn't that good. I don't think they will do well.
Copyright Infringement - Nice name, but it has exposed extenders and less weaponry than the elite HS's.
Crawl Through Knives - Might be better than Cocytus. Then again, it might not.
Dark July - Lots of weapons, but slow.
Death Dealer - About as much weaponry as Little Darling had, but a larger chassis. Popups and Rammers should beat it.
DGSG? / IDR,ODI? - I can see it giving some bots problems. I can also see if failing hard.
'Eavy Metal Boi - The worst rammer IMO. Not enough weapons, and a huge chassis.
Gears Your Lever - Same story as the rest of the multibots, but I think it's design makes it more vulnerable.
Generic Rammer - WHADDYA KNOW, I HAVE ONE JUST LIKE IT! And it's not that good...
Grinnin Face - Too few weapons, too large a chassis.
Gut Ripper 2 - Not actually a Gut-Ripper, but it might win a match or two.
Heaven's Sawmill - The coolest bot in the tourney, hands down, but I don't think it'll be in the top 5.
Hellbringer - Basically, a slightly better version of SCv1.0's Billy Goats Gruffiest. Not enough weapons, drive, or wedginess to go far.
Insult to Injury V - Spinner From the West.
Juggernaut MK 3 - HUGE chassis, and not enough wepons in any one spot.
Mace in da Face - Well built, poorly designed. Any popup can rip those tribars to shreds.
Mjorhmei - The old Orbital Delivery Vehicle, without the orbital delivery.
No Hype 5 - If those E-wedges are effective, it might be decent. Phil is a buch better innovator than builder though.
Oscillation Overthruster - Brittle weapons, exposed extenders, big chassis, but it might still win a match or two.
PitA 8 - It's chassis wedge looks pitiful, and it looks to have few razors. Still well-built.
R4 - SCREW DEFENSE. My 1-hit KO bot. With 20 razors, it's average match time is less than 10 seconds (win or lose).
Red Radar - Spinner from the West.
Revenge of Dr. Wham - Looks to be to slow and unable to self-right.
Sand Storm - Cool looking, but no real effective weaponry.
Seism 13 - Popup wise, it looks to be the polar opposite of R4.
Shock Therapy - It's weapons are too high to be a threat to anything. It'll be a quick finish for this one.
Spearhead - Quite a good bot. It could go far.
Stratocaster - Also a good piston rammer, I think it could do better than Spearhead.
Surgical Strike - Another defenseless popup, I fear that this one won't have enough power to kill bots fast enough to overcome its lack of armour.
T-800 Terminator - This should be one of the favourites.
The Baby Warrior - Not quite Spinner from the West, but close to that territory.
The Black Plague - Lots of weapons, but they all look like they're in useless positions on the spinners.
The Emancipator - A pretty generic VS, it should lose to quite a few HS's, even though it's decently built.
The Fang Brothers - My favourite multibot, it won't do well though. Not enough weaponry for even a LW rammer.
Three Kings - Not sure about the weapons placement.
Triple Play - Pretty bad. Shouldn't last long.
Trojan Horse - Exposed extenders and questionable wedge.
Tsunami - Spinner from the West.
Shadow Tyrant - I'm really not sure about E-wedges.
Vela - A decent HS. That drive system worries me, especially with many multibots.
Veteran Destroyer - Built to give spinners problems, I can see it pulling a few upsets.
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I am always rated to do very well in tournaments then end up sucking. Thats just what I've come to expect at this point. Looking forward to it, but not getting my hopes up.
My favorites right now are Heaven's Sawmill and Bounty Hunter, mostly for looking completely awesome. I also love the clone of strat, I must say I'm flattered. I also have a version that looks almost exactly the same as that xD
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Restart for the predictions.
45-70 Magnum: Well it's well built, but kinda slow for a FS. I can see this getting shredded by the horde of HS right there.
Absolute Chaos: The epitomy of the pure HS. Not exactly my favorite because it's a pure HS (no offense to Inf) but still one of the potential winners here.
Acupuncture: Totally generic rammer. Not badly built - wish the wedge was longer though.
Anti-Christ V.Pincer: Messssssy HS. 18 irons isn't a lot on a HW.
Big Flip's Revenge: Well I nearly entered a multibot popup too... Looks decent. Wish the wedge was longer. Going to get raped by the first decent HS encountered.
Black Cat Magic: Nice name, nice paintjob but poor bot with very slow drive and too few weapons. Will fail hard unless against a noob.
Blood Shed: A decent rammer with a good weapon choice. However the Katanas could hamper mobility, and again wish the wedge was longer.
Bounty Hunter: It's a popup... and made by the resident popup master. I can see him losing to the heavily weaponed horizontal spinners though. One of my favs.
Bumble Bee: I'm going to call this Cheap Win 3000 for all the tourney.
Cardiac Arrest: The best of the rammers here. Awesome name, cool looks, really well built. One of my favorites.
Chernobyl: AC wannabe, with less coolness. Still a 36 mace. We'll see how it fares.
Cocytus IV: Juggler. Jugglers own, and Scrap is one of the best Stock builders we have. Might see against the pure HS however.
Consonant/Vowel: A multibot with a SnS and no wedges is a BAD idea against a heavyweight. It MIGHT get a few wins but it's much more of somethin that will get raped to me.
Copyright Infringement: I LOL'd at the name. Near-pure HS, will see how it fares...
Crawl Through Knives v4.2: Another NWB clone. I think the discs ould be better perfectly horizontal. Nice name.
Dark July: I love the name. I hope the overwhelming number of weapons on that pusher makes up for the drive train sacrifice...
Death Dealer: I don't even think this is better than Little Darling. Was expecting more from MNB.
DGSG/IDRODI: Not too bad of a multibot. As always will get raped against a HS, but might win against several of the rammers.
'Eavy Metal Boi: Nothing attractive on that bot. A poor rammer/poker that could get a few wins if it faces the SFTW's.
gears your lever: Probably would be better with maces... Fury is MUCH MORE better than this.
Generic Rammer: Pinks = fail. Chassis could be lighter. An average rammer.
grinnin face: This is what happens when you know the right techniques to build a HS but when you can't apply them... Plus the bot is ugly and the name has nothing attractive.
Gut Ripper 2: A less than average shell spinner, but not a SFTW. RADs and miniwheels on a HW = fail, and the weapon head setup needs to be rotated 90°. Might get one or two wins though. And nothing close to a gut ripper...
Heaven's Sawmill: Yeah, it's a good bot, but not an unstoppable killer because of low speed. I can see these wedges being munched away by a HS and then the bot will suck without wedges.
Hellbringer: Not too bad of a FS, but critically misses a wedge and faster drive.
Insult to Injury V:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18849sftwsmall.PNG)?
Nice paintjob though.
Juggernaut Mk. 3: A nice paintjob for a really crappy rammer that won't last long, with weak weapons and exposed chassis.
Mace in da face: Another AC (original version's) clone. Name could really be more attractive, though it's a 36 mace HS and as that a dangerous bot.
Mjorhmei: SCv4a's Orbital Delivery Vehicle... but weapons = fail.
No Hype 5: Credit to Phil for building the only true popup of the tournament, but the damage will be drastically low. Are 2 DDT's and 4 HPZ drive enough to send bots OOTA? We'll see.
Oscillation Overthruster: Not too bad of a HS. Half hitpoints however...
PitA 8: It's a good popup, goes under NWB most of the time, however it is prone to losing weapons easily (even with 8 razors) and it always does that against a HS. I don't share Click's enthusiasm on my bot.
R4: No armor is a risky bet even with a LOT of firepower. Can't see this fairing well.
Red Radar: Poorly built vertical spinner will get destroyed by any decent bot it is pitted against.
Revenge of Dr. Wham: Probably a popup or wammer... but A 2WD ONE ??? While not too bad of a bot, it won't get far.
SandStorm: Nice name, original design, but i can't see this as really combat worthy with an Emergency wedge that high and axes on spinners = not the best choice.
Seism 13: I MORE THAN LOVE THAT PAINTJOB. Also credit to FB for building an original wedge design... we'll see if the weight used on the linear actuators is worth it.
Shock Therapy: 12 razors on a HW HS= you're doing it wrong. Very wrong.
Spearhead: A good poker, though i don't like the lack of wedges and these black extenders could be too exposed.
Stratocaster: Not bad of a rammer/poker hybrid, but any popup/juggler will probably eat this alive.
SurgicalStrike: Same as R0B0's bot but not as good. We will see if weapon overload is a good tradeoff for less armor...
T-800 Terminator: Starcore knows what he's entering. More than probably going to fair well in that tournament.
The Baby Warrior: Second SFTW of the tournament ! An failure of a rammer/hammer hybrid. Not horrible though.
the black plague: Complex spinner with failed weapon heads. Will get destroyed against any good rammer.
The Emancipator: Could have been so easy to switch the discs to extenders and get irons for the central spinners...
The Fang Brothers: Failure of a multibot. That's all.
Three Kings: Its cool, but the combat efficiency of this horizontal spinner is kind of limited.
Triple Play: If the previous combat efficiency was kind of limited, this one is amazingly low. Another of the poorly built bots.
Trojan Horse: 61kg on a DDT ?? Overall, an average popup that can still get wins.
Tsunami: Fodder and an insult to popups, if this can even qualify as a popup (from the West).
Shadow Tyrant: Nice name. Not sure about double stacked emergency wedges though...
Vela: Another generic HS. Drive attachment setup is a failure. Not bad overall.
Vetearn Destroyer: A hammer/rammer hybrid without wedges... and i bet that could have been built with shinies. Not too bad of a bot but won't get far.
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Actually Kill, I sent my bot before you sent yours and I had no idea about your bot.
Your's is superior to mine, though.
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DGSG/whatever:
Such disrespect! :D
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we should have a SFTW award seeing there's a few this time :P
my robot isn't great, as i have said before the wedge isn't on a burst motor or anything and the weapons could be better.. it'll be fun to watch though, and i know if it faces Anti-Christ V.Pincer the match could go either way (depending on havoks, which will be ACVP's downfall).
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If this was the combat arena, Bumble Bee would not lose. Because of that, I would not have not entered it. I entered bumble bee for three reasons:
1. It's original, so it fits my rule for tourneys.
2. It can lose to bots other than the favorites like HS and popups. For example, it will beat AC but will could lose to Red Radar. Makes for an interesting tournament.
3. It has the possibility of winning. Almost every tournament I've entered, I wasn't really focused on winning. But this is BBEANS, and this is Stock HW. I had to enter something good.
Also, I swear bumble bee is not homosexual.
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Good thing too, I was getting worried about Bumble Bee's sexuality.
(Do note, I have nothing against gay people.)
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Can everyone tell from my entry why I stick with DSL?
It is a pain in the ass for me to make something good enough for a tournament like this because I don't know how to use all of the glitches and techniques that everyone else uses.
And I prefer the more realistic designs of DSL.
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those plows are overlapping so you know how to use 1 of the glitches.. and that one is the most important. you could have stacked weapons instead of plows >.>
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In hindsight, i should never have built mine realisticly :(
Its all im good at though...
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from everyone elses predictions I have made a prediction regarding my performance....... It wont be pretty lol (and yes that it directed at me being the ass end of the ass kicking) :-D but I suppose time will tell
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I just had a look at some of my bots predictions.
Its a pop-up powered by 2 HP-Ztek, and the small wedges are conected to 2 DDT bursts, hopefully Click AIed mine as something like Omni of flipper.
But the rest i'll have to agree with, yeah, probably just one fight win :)
Im confident about some bots, like Fang Brothers, but it i come up against a pop-up or a HS, then i fear i may get slaughtered.
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Redline: Vowel is a HS/SNS hybrid. I'd be more scared of that IMO.
Huh. It looked like a rammer. Unless Vowel is the HS and Click didn't do it as Consultant (possible name recalling fail) at the top, Vowel at the bottom.
Oh well. Like I footered the report, "Here ends the report from the unwise"
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Got to keep up my reputation of entering a sucky bot into BBEANS!
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Got to keep up my reputation of entering a sucky bot into BBEANS!
It's not that bad. It's not special, but it could cause some trouble.
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What do you think has the best paintjob?
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I always took pride in the paintjob I gave Stratocaster. I made it look realistic enough, using a screenshot of the insides to make it look like metal with lexan sheets.
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Top ten IMO:
Absolute Chaos
Heaven's Sawmill
Bounty Hunter
Bumble Bee
Cocytus IV
Blood Shed
Spearhead
Vela
Vetearn destroyer
PitA 8
Magnum: It looks scary but I doubt it'll go far.
AC: One of the best in this tournament IMO. Could be beaten by one of these popups, though.
Acupuncture: A decent rammer, it'll get a few nice matches.
AntiC V.Pincer: Unless those Weapons are attached to two burst motors creating a clamp effect, it'll fail. (am I correct?)
Big Flip's revenge: I'd like to fight them. Will do well against the hordes of SFTW's, until it gets to the good bots.
Black Cat: Decent VS, but it'll lose against some of the other bots.
Blood Shed: Another nice rammer, It'll do great against most of the competitors.
Bounty Hunter: He's in my top five. Possible Rumble participant.
Bumble Bee: The only Anti Popup here IMO. This'll prove to be a nice one to watch.
Cardiac arrest: Inf has worries about this bot. I have worries about which member of the audience it'll hit when it faces a wedged popup.
Cheronobyl: This bot will either be a disaster, or cause the opposition to "Meltdown".
Cocytus IV: NWB update, This bot smells fear, and feeds off it.
Consonant/Vowel: My bots. I expect Consonant to die first, but Vowel is the main problem.
Copyright Infringement: Nasty HS, I like the way it looks. It'll not get too far, but it'll look decent.
Crawl through knives: I'd rather not. I like this bot, it has nice amounts of defence.
Dark July: Cardiac Arrest with Grannies and a possibly weaker drive.
Death Dealer: Not a good HS. I expect it to lose after the first match.
DGSG/IDRODI: Best multibot IMO. I'd like to battle these bots in the brackets.
Metal Boi: Robloxstar from Youtube's bot? This'll be fun to watch.
Gears your lever: Main Menu's Main mistake: It's not invertible.
Generic Rammer: Another Rammer. These are getting annoying. It'll go as far as most others though.
grinnin face: My pal's bot. onr minute after me showing him stuff. Cola was a bad Idea...
Gut ripper 2: Stacking weapons fail. Other than that it'll get past the first round nicely.
Heven's Sawmill: Gulp. I See this as one of the two bots that pose the greatest threat to Bumble Bee.
Hellbringer: It'll do nicely against HS, but popups, IDK.
Insult to Injury: *STFW pic*
juggernaut: A rammer that takes advantage of the Rammer AI problems, and that skin is awesome. (Still a loser)
Mace in da face: Venko's BBEANS entry will show that he's not just a pushover. Go venk.
Mjorhmei: Does he know something we don't know, or is he intent on losing? Possible OOTA maker.
No hype 5: A popup/flipper hybrid. Nice.
OO: Weakest of almost all other HS. Not going to get far at all.
PitA 8: Naryar has proven himself as a tourney champion, I'm putting a bounty on this bot's head. But that isn't the only news...
R4: I like how those blades are used. Possible Dark Horse?
Red Radar: Odd. Definate failure. Other than that it looks funny
Dr. Wham: A rammer or a popup... ...who knows. Possible dark horse.
SandStorm: More like a tank than a bot. I expect very little from this bot.
Seism 13: One of the best skins. I hope this AI is good...
Shock Therapy: I honestly was hoping those Snowplouhs were on spinners as well. Sigh.
Spearhead: HS and rammers, beware.
Stratocaster: ANOTHER nice skin. I see some quick wins.
SurgicalStrike: R4 but more weapons. I think it'll go like Vexxed.
Terminator: Starcore puts his remakes into tournaments to show how good they are. Expect this bot to do well.
Baby warrior: Total failure.
Black plauge: I see some extenders falling off...
Emancipator: OOTA ALERT!
Fang Brothers: Could get under the weapons of some bots, but this WILL fail.
Three Kings: Preety... but I feel sorry for it.
Trojan Horse: Are those weapons already fired? Hmm...
Tsunami: Best bot here.
Shadow Tyrant: 4 Emergancy wedges, 4 Ramplates... Made for the HS here.
Vela: Nice bot for a rookie. I see some nice wins.
Vetearn Destroyer: When I submitted my bot, click asked if I want the name spelt correctly. I guess he wanted it this way. Could do well, being one of the only two hammers here.
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Just to clear things up, Vetearn is not a spelling error. If it does well in BBEANS, it can earn the rank of veteran, but until then, it is Vetearn.
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@Wham: 2WD HPZ drive on a HW popup = do not want !
@S32: Vela in the top 10 ? Mace in da face is much better than Vela.
PitA 8 - It's chassis wedge looks pitiful, and it looks to have few razors. Still well-built.
I have 8 razors and yes the chassis wedge sucks, but it's a caster armored popup.
Also our bots are together in the splash <3
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Top ten IMO:
Absolute Chaos
Heaven's Sawmill
Bounty Hunter
Bumble Bee
Cocytus IV
Blood Shed
Spearhead
Vela
Vetearn destroyer
PitA 8
OBJECTION!
Tsunami: Best bot here.
A clear contradiction! ;)
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Sarcasm fail. sigh...
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Was going more for the Phoenix Wright quote.
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The Emancipator, Seism 13 and the NWB* clones are gonna worry me; aswell as all wedged bots using DDTs
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For all those who need to know what the blades on R4 do, look at WT vs. IWGS.
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The Fang Brothers to me are the coolest looking bots in the tourney, not very good though.
The Baby Warrior=Super Epic Fail.
Hidden spikes, with a hammer that seems to have an arm to short to reach out of the front. tsk tsk tsk.
Tsunami=disgrace to all popups everywhere
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The Fang Brothers to me are the coolest looking bots in the tourney, not very good though.
The Baby Warrior=Super Epic Fail.
Hidden spikes, with a hammer that seems to have an arm to short to reach out of the front. tsk tsk tsk.
Tsunami=disgrace to all popups everywhere
O RLY ?
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YES RLY!
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I cannot wait for the tourney to start. I wonder how my bot will do...
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I wonder how my bot will do...
I could tell you EXACTLY how your bot will do... :gawe:
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I wonder how my bot will do...
Like this one (https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Spinner_from_the_West) ?
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I cannot wait for the tourney to start. I wonder how my bot will do...
Ok, think how bad you think it will do. Now, imagine it worse.
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I wonder how well my bot will do...
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Any thing but Pop-ups and VS, good.
Any pop-up(Other than the crap one) and HSM, bad.
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Looking at the competitors, I don't think I stand much of a chance here. Oh well.
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So the stats...
19 horizontal spinners including 3 pure ones and 5 poorly built.
2 face spinners, both good
11 rammers and rammer hybrids (not counting Baby Warrior because it's a piece of sh**), including at least 4 which suck
2 jugglers both good
11 popups (not counting Tsunami again) all decent or better
1 GHEEEEYYYY CRAWLER
6 vertical spinners, 2 which suck and 2 good.
2 hammers (1 sucks and the second is poor)
4 pokers (2 good and 1 sucks)
I just don't want to fall quickly on a HS - i could even break my razors on a rammer.
Don't know why Click did put my bot on 5 possible finalists... and can't wait for the brackets !
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Out of curiosity, which Vertical spinners suck?
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Out of curiosity, which Vertical spinners suck?
Guess which one...
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Mine.
I might get a few wins, actually. Not against any of the good robots, mind you, but there are some I could handle.
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1 GHEEEEYYYY CRAWLER
I can't stop laughing at that. XD
My popup's wedge is a bit poor, actually. But for some reason some bots still fly out from it. o_O
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im guessing mines the sucky HS lol I already have an newer version in the works possibly for another tournament, I dont think ill go down too quickly (theres a lot of snow plows to get threw lol)
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Looking at the odds of getting a draw I can handle, and the odds of winning if I don't - I really should learn how to make a decent snapper boosted (loaded?) HS.
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I guess mine is one of the bad rammers.
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How many bots !
Best paint Job :
- StratoCaster, i like the way we feel like looking inside
- Seism 13
- Revenge of Dr Wham
Futur winner(s) : ?
- R4
- Cocytus 4
- the emancipator
-revenge of Dr Wham
- Big flips revenge
- mace in da face
I'm surprised by the similarities between Bounty hunter and Put 8, one of them may also reach the podium.
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In now way Redline nor Wham can won. Both will get destroyed by the first decent HS encountered...
...Same thing could happen to me...
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In now way Redline nor Wham can won. Both will get destroyed by the first decent HS encountered...
...Same thing could happen to me...
I think redline got a chance, one of the two bot may side-attack and go easily under their foe.
About Wham, i don't know about its motors, but as the bot seems compact and the arena is not so wide, it may turn more easily than other bots and here again, do side-attack.
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My bot is more dangerous than it looks in the splash, but I'm not very happy with it either. I wasn't even planning to enter a HS, because I knew it wouldn't be at the same level as other ones. If I still had Megachick, you probably would have seen a beefed up version of her in the tournament, and I would have entered a lot sooner.
MY favorites for this tournament are 45-70 Magnum by Acams and Bumblebee by Sage.
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So the stats...
19 horizontal spinners including 3 pure ones and 5 poorly built.
2 face spinners, both good
11 rammers and rammer hybrids (not counting Baby Warrior because it's a piece of sh**), including at least 4 which suck
2 jugglers both good
11 popups (not counting Tsunami again) all decent or better
1 GHEEEEYYYY CRAWLER
6 vertical spinners, 2 which suck and 2 good.
2 hammers (1 sucks and the second is poor)
4 pokers (2 good and 1 sucks)
I just don't want to fall quickly on a HS - i could even break my razors on a rammer.
Don't know why Click did put my bot on 5 possible finalists... and can't wait for the brackets !
59 entries?.. pretty sure there was 53.
whats my bot under? xD
i think my bot is capable of causing upsets but will get destroyed by pop-ups.. stupid wedges >.<
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I think he's counting the multibots seperate.
Vowel is a SNS godammit!
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And that is why it will fail.
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Against fast, powerful bots like Mace in da face, PitA 8 and AC. Bots that are slower will suffer.
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multibots fail cause they can hurt each other.. unless you give each of them decent defense and make them attack in only one direction.
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That's why mine are at an advantage. A rammer will actively charge an opponent and an SNS will only stay near the opponent and spin about hoping that it tries to attack.
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That's why mine are at an advantage. A rammer will actively charge an opponent and an SNS will only stay near the opponent and spin about hoping that it tries to attack.
So your at an advantage because your bots fight one on one?
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no, its probably set on to team mode then
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No. I'm at an advantage because most other bots are more "focused" when it comes to weapons (EG: Seism 13.) This means I have a chance of attacking unprotected areas.
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multibots fail cause they can hurt each other.. unless you give each of them decent defense and make them attack in only one direction.
Not if it's a popup. Unless somehow both the enemy and your ally got wedged at the same time.
@Philetbabe: You have a point. Knew it already, but I wasn't counting on the chances. An all direction HS would still rape both.
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S32's rammer will probably charge at the enemy and be liquidated, and then his SnS will have to fight alone. S32's strategy will only work if his enemy aims for the SnS first, which isn't likely to happen as the bigger bot will probably aim for the rammer that is attacking it, as opposed to attacking the spinning bot that is waiting. That said, it should create some interesting matches....
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@FC: Exactly.
@Ianh: You might remember the Fury/Death Warrant team... they always made me laugh !
@S32: Did you even AIed both of your bots and fought with them as that ?
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My bot is more dangerous than it looks in the splash, but I'm not very happy with it either. .
With 4 motors to spin weapons, your bot is not so bad and certainly not the worth HS.
As in life, there's always a part of luck in any contest, so you may go far depending of the opponents you meet : 30 % to meet another HS.
according to Naryar there is about 28 % to meet a bad build bot. with such statistics, almost everyone should expect to win its first match with a little luck ... but only half will.
To Natef : well, Tsunami (FTW) has been the object of few jokes, don't mind boy . Sure, it seems that you did not use the full 799Kg of motors and weapons you should have. But first, you should create a (big) surprise during your first match (why not ?), second, the simple fact to participate to a contest will improve you skills and the next time we'll see you, you will be terrific, so be happy to be here.
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These bots remind me of when I started playing RA1 online. People had long abandoned building practical bots, and had moved on to shoving as many weapons on there as possible. Simplicity had fallen in favor of building TAWDs (which was named after Need4Speed's bot Tim Allen's Wet Dream). While this style of building is a lot more effective, it lacks a lot of the charm of old.
Nevertheless, watching some of these videos will be fun. When mine loses, I hope it's destroyed and not counted out due to the self righter not working.
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Thanks, I appreciate that!
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@S32: Did you AI both of your bots and fought with them as a team?
Fixed grammar.
I Put Vox and Anulbis (I think...) in a team and fought them against random HW's.
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actually s32, it would be "Did you AI both of your bots and fight with them as a team?"
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Who said I was pitting them against Starcore's HWs...
...Wait, that means... Argh, Nevermind.
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...Big deal.
*Ahh, it's good to be back*
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ReIeR's BaCk! YaY!
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1 t0t411y kn0w!!1!11
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i hope that rammer is easy to get under ;)
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@FC: Exactly.
@Ianh: You might remember the Fury/Death Warrant team... they always made me laugh !
@S32: Did you even AIed both of your bots and fought with them as that ?
Its all perspective but how I remember it, frequently Death Warrant would get to one opponent first and then Fury would eat Death Warrant trying to get to the opponent then go attack the other opponent. The final match that Fury and Death Warrant lost was what I felt was a fluke count out going after the other bot that had just spun upside down over in the other corner while Fury had eaten the first opponent and Death Warrant. (Sorry if I am not remembering it correctly)
In all the history of RA2 the best Multibot combos that I recall were well made low to the ground popups. Designs that pretty much can't hurt each other. I have watched little packs of pop-ups take on SHWs that way.
Starcore
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Against fast, powerful bots like Mace in da face, PitA 8 and AC. Bots that are slower will suffer.
You cant compare the speed of AC to that of Venko's heavy weaponed turtle...
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You cant compare the speed of AC to that of Venko's heavy weaponed turtle...
To be honest, both bots are almost the same.
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You are 96% wrong.
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45-70 Magnum - Looks cool... probably deceptively more destructive than it looks... ACAMS' bots always seem to trick us like that. I don't think it will make it all the way though. The rear is the weakness, with fat wheels to boot.
Absolute chaos - Well balanced, damage protection via spinning weapons in all directions. Fast Popup might cause issues.
Acupunture - Looks clean... but not mean.
Anti-christ V.Pincer - Unique, I will give it that... but does not look like it will stay balanced after a few irons get knocked off.
Big Flip's Revenge - can't wait to see how good these actually do.
Black Cat Magic - I will say that I hope that this bot wins a match or more... I can respect Jeffrey's passion for realistic looking bots. Underdog FTW
Blood Shed - tidy and brown... should do ok... but might get thrown around alot.
Bounty Hunter - This is my pick for overall winner. I have mad faith in Pyscolone's popup talents. This thing is gonna frustrate a lot of builders.
Bumble Bee - Sexual preference comments aside... I'm kinda surprised that nobody else entered a bot like this. Too bad too... I guess Sage is gonna have to absorb all the hate.
Cardiac Arrest - its tiny... props for compact building.
Chernobyl - couple maces off that bot and its gonna wobble like a drunk hobo. Should still do well though.
Cocytus IV - I fear this thing... Though, side plows would have helped keep the victims at bay. It's still gonna kill a bunch though.
Consonant/Vowel - Sorry... not going to last.
Copyright Infringement - Does it fly? It is going to get a few wins for sure.
Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - Brutal... I hope a popup sneaks between the wedges though... that would amuse me.
Dark July - Decent rammer, might not be fast enough though...
Death Dealer - Boxier than a Volvo... but looks like it can dish out damage.
DGSG/IDRODI - not going far... just saying.
'Eavy Metal Boi - good attempt... but will fall to most of the bots here.
gears your lever - Am I the only one that is massively amused by Man Manu's grammar? These are gonna die though, sorry man.
Generic Rammer - Generic Rammer is Generic
grinnin face - gonna die easy to any builder here that has been playing for more than a month.
Gut Ripper 2 - Originality points +1 Effective design -1
Heaven's Sawmill - I just shat my pants... Thanks click.
Hellbringer - Won't do a lot of damage straight off... but is built to fight as long as possible. Its main strength is that it is invertible.
Insult to Injury V - exposed chassis = certain death... But if you are shooting for realistic looks... yay you! still gonna die though.
Juggernaut Mk. 3 - I kinda like it appearance wise... but its gonna die quick, too bad too. Why waste such a pretty face.
Mace in da face - speaking of faces... look at that little thing! it is going to be hard to hit that chassis... Best Rookie submission of the tournament.
Mjormei - Oh that thing looks fun! It wont go all the way, but I'm going to root for it.
No Hype 5 - pretty colors... if it is fast... its going to piss off a lot of bots. watch out.
Oscillation Overthruster - might get a win or two... but could be built better.
PITA 8- clean, i like it... i bet it hurts bots pretty good. Could go all the way.
R4 - clean... but looks cooler! Ha! could go all the way too.
Red Radar - no wins for you
Revenge Of Dr.Wham - kinda cool... might win a couple.
SandStorm - looks intimidating... but not enough weapons to go all the way. couple of wins perhaps.
Seism 13 - Does not look like much... but rumor has it... it is smart as all heck.
Shock Therapy - im looking at abstract art here... wont do enough damage to win though.
Spearhead - Oh i hate these things... a few wins for you if it stays pointed in the right direction. Popups will prolly pwn it though.
Stratocaster - This bot will ram hard... very well built. handful of win.
SurgicalStrike - bleh
T-800 Terminator - Starcore's rank number just went up... enough said.
The Baby Warrior - Ohhhh man i think we are all drooling to knock off those wheels soooooo bad. Bring it on!
the black plague - This bot will grow unstable... fast.
The Emancipator - I like it... i think it will do decent.
The Fang Brothers - wont fare well... sorry... see you next tourney.
Three Kings - spiffy, original, cool looking. It has my respect... but might not fare well. Should get a kill somewhere.
Triple Play - Keep practicing kid...
Trojan Horse - not bad... HS'ers will eat those sides quick though. We'll see.
Tsunami - blue
Shadow Tryant - kinda boring... but i like the double e-wedges... that will do well i think.
Vela - Dude! your drive motor is undone! zip it up!
Vetearn (typo?) Destroyer - Interesting... I'm curious to see it in action.
MY TOP 5
Cocytus iV
Bounty Hunter
Bumble Bee
Spearhead
PITA 8
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my top 5:
Heaven's Sawmill
Stratocaster
Spearhead
45-70 Magnum
Bounty Hunter
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Venko never showed anything competitive within a legal weight, nor did he ever show us his bots that would make our bots 'look like shame'
That is all.
Whatever you say Inf,... whatever you say...
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To ClickB : See what happaned when i had some free time to build, ClickB... I submited my bot for BBEANS5 in a hurry, without any time for building something brilliant, 'cos i was chasing a deadline to make it to be in the first (and "olny" for that time) 32's in the barket. If i was having more time like the the rest 20 ( late-submiting = more-time-to-build-something-better ) from the barket i could build and submit THIS better bot...
*just a thought*
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i really want to see AC vs MIDF in round 1. not so it settles their "disagreement" but so i don't face either :)
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I guess Sage is gonna have to absorb all the hate.
qft :icon_twisted:
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Venko i dont see any ramplates on your BBEANS entry.
Is your BBEANS entry a pure HS ?
I know that you can build that as a pure HS (i did with a different extender setup months ago)
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You were allowed to update your entry Venko, as long as it was basically the same bot with only minor updates. And as far as I can see, it is (the same HS with added ramplates).
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Chernobyl - couple maces off that bot and its gonna wobble like a drunk hobo. Should still do well though.
It already does!
Anyways
Bots that could go all the way:
Absolute Chaos
Bounty Hunter
Mace in da Face
R4
PiTA 8
Bots to watch:
T-800
Seism 13
Chernobyl
Heaven's Sawmill
Cocytus IV
Crawl through Knives 4/2
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Dear God I'm screwed...
That said, I'm glad I didn't enter what I originally planned to. I'm surprised there were so many clusterbot entries in this.
I'm gonna be watching:
T-800
Absolute Chaos
R4
Bounty Hunter
Cocytus IV
Crawl through Knives
Heaven's Sawmill
The Emancipator
Mace in da Face
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Dear God I'm screwed...
That said, I'm glad I didn't enter what I originally planned to. I'm surprised there were so many clusterbot entries in this.
3 or 4 out of 53 entries?
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Anti-christ V.Pincer - Unique, I will give it that... but does not look like it will stay balanced after a few irons get knocked off.
i'd be more concerned about what happens when the motors fall off, but weapons falling off doesn't effect it much..if at all and it's very stable.
on another note, my robot (SandStorm) should be a lil pain for most other entries except those that have a better wedge.
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3 or 4 out of 53 entries?
It's just more than I expected. That's all I was saying
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It's just more than I expected. That's all I was saying
Eh, I was thinking of it in proportion. You're right though, there's not usually this many multis.
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BBEANS 2 had a few and was DSL HW's.. i thought that there would be around 3-4 this time so I'm not really surprised.
so when it's HW's you can expect a few.
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BBEANS 2 had a few and was DSL HW's.. i thought that there would be around 3-4 this time so I'm not really surprised.
so when it's HW's you can expect a few.
BBEANS 2 I believe had two. It was the first time multibots were allowed.
Me with Double Damage MW, and Pressure with Sabre.
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The only reason I build DGSG and IDRODI is becuase I wanted to enter a multibot. Like I said, they really aren't serious entries, and I wanted them to have crazy names. Does anyone know why I chose those names?
Anyway though, I think a well built multibot will evetually win a tournament.
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@ Redline: it had kevlar and superstar aswell, 3 multibots in total.
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A multibot can win... with good matchups and luck. However, if it falls twice on a decent HS or Cheap Win 3000, it's over.
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Who is Cheap Win 3000?
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The homosexual.
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Oh..... him.......
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@ Redline: it had kevlar and superstar aswell, 3 multibots in total.
....... It took me this long to find that multibot existed?
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You were allowed to update your entry Venko, as long as it was basically the same bot with only minor updates. And as far as I can see, it is (the same HS with added ramplates).
This also means that no more entry changes or updates are being accepted. The bots are locked as they are now, for better or worse.
I can't enter with the new version Oggie, too late... See this post what is this all about : ...
(The To ClickB part...)
Venko i dont see any ramplates on your BBEANS entry.
Is your BBEANS entry a pure HS ?
I know that you can build that as a pure HS (i did with a different extender setup months ago)
You also take a look at this post : ...
(The To ClickB part...)
Now about the entrants :
45-70 Magnum - Average bot at all, but it WILL shred noob bots for breakfast...
AC - Is A.C. abreviature for Absolute Crap? The motors are too far from eachother to hit at the same time and do more dmg. The wheels are too exposed. The maces facing down are good vs popups, but not effective vs other HSs. Basicly my MidF and MidF ][ must shred this into pieces for breakfast...
Acupuncture - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face...
Anti-Christ V.Pincer - Too exposed parts at all. Not enough weapons. It may only win vs noob bots.
Big Flip's Revenge - May kill some noob, if not fight eachother. But these bots don't have any protection. Good skin btw.
Black Cat Magic - A very vulnerable bot without protection or enough weapons. May not get a win...
Blood Shed - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face...
Bounty Hunter - I don't know how his wedges will preform vs other wedges, but its a very effective bot that can win BBEANS. But Sage's "homo thing" may "whack" this popup very easy.
Bumble Bee - Or i should call it "Homo Bee"... I know how effective are the crawlers. Sage's bot must watch for the BBEANS blade in the middle, since its don't have a good grip. If not fliped outside the arena it may win BBEANS.
Cardiac Arrest - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face... But Reier have one beer from me, for this very cool looking bot. I just loved how it looks...
Chernobyl - Too exposed wheels but still better than AC vs other HSs...
Cocytus IV - SD, you are a good builder, why you entered with some cheap clone of NWB? It will win but, blah...
Consonant/Vowel - They have a chance only vs the weak and noob bots...
Copyright Infringement - Actually a VERY VERY good bot. If you replace this irons and razors with only a maces, it could win BBEANS.
Crawl Through Knives v4.2 - Basically what said for Cocytus IV...
Dark July - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face...
Death Dealer - Will shred the noobs, but not the "big boys"...
Do Geese See God?/I Did Roll, Or Did I? - Maybe the best cluster bots in this BBEANS. They may win some matchs.
'Eavy Metal Boi - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face...
gears your lever - Not that bad. They may kill some noobs...
Generic Rammer - A generic rammer. Looks like Condor33 didn't have enough time for building and skinning... It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face...
grinnin face - Obviously this guy entered just to see his name it the barked... Pros : A very nice skin [/S]; Cons : Will beat only a noob bot.
Gut Ripper 2 - This tribars will be immobilized or killed very easly. Maybe not a win for this one.
Heaven's Sawmill - This snowpows will be killed very easly. But one beer for ClickB from me too. At least awesome looking bot (like most of his bots).
Hellbringer - Cool look and skin JD, but may not have wins...
Insult to Injury V - singing :
*Spinner from the west,
that bot is the best...
He have awesome skin,
but he never win...
Many build a twins,
but where are the wins?...
This bot is not a noob,
definitely not a boob...*
Sorry Alterer of Reality, i know you are new to RA2, but i couldn't resist to this joke, and im ROFLing right now...
Juggernaut Mk. 3 - The weakest rammer in this BBEANS (total lack of weapons).
Mace in da face - This version is better against other HSs. MidF ][ is better against all other types of bots, even hammers and popups, but i can't enter with it... But knowing my bad luck, probably i will be fliped out of the arena and lose since in the first round.
Mjorhmei - A "WTF" name. This bot may kill some noobs, but nothing more...
No Hype 5 - Good planed. It may flip out of the arena some noob, but how will preform vs the "big boys", especially with THESE wedges...
Oscillation Overthruster - Not THAT bad. It may steal some win.
PitA 8 - Basically what said for Bounty Hunter. Good job Nary.
R4 - It will "whack" the noobs, but how will preform vs the "big boys", since his front is unprotected...
Red Radar - Basically what singing for Insult to Injury V...
Revenge Of Dr. Wham - It will "whack" the noobs, but how will preform vs the "big boys"...
SandStorm - Again, one beer from me, for Iahn, for this cool and unique bot. But how effective will be, Iahn... Not much, i think...
Seism 13 - Looks like a generic popup, but it maybe is hiding some tricks from us...
Shock Therapy - Basically what singing for Insult to Injury V...
Spearhead - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face...
Stratocaster - It may get a victory or not, depends on what will face... Cool idea with the lexan skin, btw.
SurgicalStrike - It will "whack" the noobs, but how will preform vs the "big boys", since his front is unprotected...
T-800 Terminator - A very good HS, with a good rammer-stopping ramplates, but the wheels are too exposed.
The Baby Warrior - Sorry, but... This is an example of when i say "a noob bot"... The weapons will hardly ever hit something.
the black plague - It will "whack" some noobs, but don't expect much, when "the things are getting hard"...
The Emancipator - A generic VS. It may steal some win. Will be better with a more and strong weapons.
The Fang Brothers - They will not win BBEANS, but are my favourites for coolest looking bots. One beer from me to Pressure, again, for these cool and nice skinned bots. They reminds me a lil for my Suitcase Of Doom.
Three Kings - A strange looking bot, that may get some random win, but it will not "live" long enough...
Triple Play - WTF is this?... A HS-popup sick freak?... Ramplates for wedges?... Only a 9 irons for a weapons?... I'm speechless infront of this creation for a Nobile price...
Trojan Horse - It will have wins, but will not win BBEANS...
Tsunami - Is this a noobish MW popup bot with some awesome skin or what?...
Shadow Tyrant - Very good job like always, Trov... Looks OK, it may get many wins, but why you used the big wedges???
Vela - A bad cloned version of the T-800 Terminator... YOU THIEF !!!
Vetearn Destroyer - I'm very proud with Flying_Chao. This looks like a serious HS killer... GALP...
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I can't enter with the new version Oggie, too late... See this post what is this all about : (The To ClickB part...)
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Yes, it's too late now, but you could have updated it a long time after you entered it (until Clickbeetle posted the splash).
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I found some free time to build the new version yesterday so...
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Don't hate on the bee... He won't sting you if you don't try to hurt him.
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imo the multi popups will win, unless faced with HS's.
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Now about the entrants :
Vela - A bad cloned version of the T-800 Terminator... YOU THIEF !!!
...Are you kidding?
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Don't hate on the bee... He won't sting you if you don't try to hurt him.
i haven't been stung by one my whole life :) i think my bot has a slight chance against your bot cause of sandstorms wedge/ramp design... maybe I'm dreamin' :P
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Haha Venk, OK. You have less weapons and a slower bot.
Weapons hitting at the same time is worse for HSers.
Your bot cant even be stable considering you have 32 maces. 4 tribars which means 8 per, which makes them unstable? Don't see how that its very smart at all.
But we'll see, I just dont know why you think you know more than I considering your bot knowledge appears to be less than the likes of Somebody or S32.
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Watch it...