Author Topic: BBEANS5 Brackets and Videos (Read 86364 times)

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #600 on:** July 23, 2009, 11:43:46 PM »

Quote from: Oggie;54297

And what's up wit all the bumping around in round 1 and 2?

The instant replay makes it clear. Vela hit the plow on the back of CTK, and the force of the impact tipped CTK on its back. It's all about leverage.

Sage · « **Reply #601 on:** July 24, 2009, 12:31:28 AM »

Lost a tourament without ever getting KOed. That must be something new xD

Pwnator · « **Reply #602 on:** July 24, 2009, 02:58:03 AM »

Heh. I expected ItI to go under me at least once. And it did. Twice. XD

Lawl @ T800 getting flipped twice after Round 2 ended. XD

I wonder if I would still get this high if I entered a serious bot. o_O

Predikshunz:

Winner's bracket:
R4 over CI - If SS did it to T800, I'm pretty sure this will as well.
S13 over ST - Battle of the wedges. I don't know how S13's AI works against double wedges, but the fight will surely be epic.

Loser's bracket:
T800 over DD - T800 has both quality AND quantity. His weapon breakers might help much against DD's lower spinners.
AC over BFR - Deja vu.
C4 over my horsie - If it can beat the might Bounty Hunter, then mine shouldn't be a problem.
SS over Vela - SS did it to T800. Why not?

RedSawn · « **Reply #603 on:** July 24, 2009, 04:31:41 AM »

Well, looks like the end of the line. Unless there's two rounds of luck that involve the double team flip, or the time BFR actually got under (And smashed AC into eventually getting the havok restart)

Quote from: Clickbeetle;34420

If Insult to Injury can get under PitA, it can certainly get under Trojan Horse, but when you're dealing with the kind of luck Insult to Injury has, anything can--and does--happen.

Well, if PitA8 won because ItI glitched through the twin wedge system (I suppose by going over one and going under the other) then it shouldn't get under Trojan as it only has one wedge.

Which it couldn't, apparently. So unless that was a dramatic description...

infiniteinertia · « **Reply #604 on:** July 24, 2009, 11:48:59 AM »

I've thoroughly tested AC against several SC4 MW Popup tandems...

Needless to say I am very confident of AC's chances this round

RedSawn · « **Reply #605 on:** July 24, 2009, 12:04:36 PM »

That, and you've already fought them.

Sage · « **Reply #606 on:** July 25, 2009, 02:14:27 AM »

Bumble Bee will return, in an arena without extrmemly low walls and uber powerful flippers. ><

System32 · « **Reply #607 on:** July 25, 2009, 03:55:55 AM »

And The Wins will. be. cheap.

Starcore · « **Reply #608 on:** July 25, 2009, 09:38:04 AM »

Quote from: Sage;54625

Bumble Bee will return, in an arena without extrmemly low walls and uber powerful flippers. ><

I really didn't think T-800 Terminator would last long enough for the flippers to even come into play. You know your design is powerful. And as you saw T-800 needed basically every bit of defense I put on it.

We all of course have to design for the environment we will be fighting in and in future tournaments people will need to consider heavily how to counter a crawler design (you know others will be doing similar with it now being allowed).

Starcore

Sage · « **Reply #609 on:** July 25, 2009, 10:50:04 AM »

Quote from: System32;54635

And The Wins will. be. cheap.

Once I'm on the flippers, I'm gone. That's not cheap at all to you?

But anyways, you can all settle down now that bumble bee is gone. I hope you homophobes realize now that it's not as cheap as you guys all thought.

Cheap Win 3000 didn't win. Looks like you all have been proven wrong.

(This post looks kinda sore loser-ish... I apologize.)

EDIT: Well, at least I lost to someone as great as Starcore. If it was anyone else I would be 2 times as mad.

philetbabe · « **Reply #610 on:** July 25, 2009, 11:45:50 AM »

No rookie for the final this time, isn't it one of the first time ?

kill343gs · « **Reply #611 on:** July 25, 2009, 07:55:09 PM »

Quote from: Sage;54713

Well, at least I lost to someone as great as Starcore. If it was anyone else I would be 2 times as mad.

Seconded. I feel the same way about strat.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #612 on:** July 26, 2009, 03:30:45 AM »

Quote from: Sage;54713

Once I'm on the flippers, I'm gone. That's not cheap at all to you?

No, actually. To me, it's not. It's just an unfortunate by-product of your bot. You were able to cram more weapons on than any other spinner because of the crawler/dancer design, so with literally 360 degrees of better offense and defense than anyone else, your bot had to have an achilles heel of sorts, which unfortunately happened to be the arena flippers. Part of competing to win a tourney is designing a bot to battle not only opposition, but in a specific environment. It appears to me that you only really took into account the opposition, and you lost because of it.

I hope I can put into words the sentiment about Bumble Bee around the forum:

For the longest time, Sage built some of the most innovative and powerful bots around, and we all respected his ability to get the most out of his designs. For the longest time too, we all frowned upon bot designs that couldn't "show controlled movement," as Click says, because we thought that just having masses of spikes flailing everywhere wasn't a fair way to win, when it couldn't even track down an opponent on its own. Somewhere along the way, it got warped into crawlers, which are completely legit designs, are also unfair. So when Sage, who we all love, entered a cralwer, which we hate for some reason, basically we defaulted to something along the lines of "NO U."
The only thing that I have against crawlers is that they are relatively easy to make in comparison to other bots, and it just seems like the lazy way out to me. I expected some epic HS-killing hammer bot out of Sage, and I was quite frankly disapointed by his entry, because he IS a great builder (I think I said this somewhere before...).

I hope I haven't sounded harsh or anything. This post wasn't meant to be offensive towards anyone, and I apologize in advance if I do manage to offend someone.

Also, the jokes are getting old guys, so stoppit >:O

Sage · « **Reply #613 on:** July 26, 2009, 03:51:29 AM »

Quote from: R0B0SH4RK;54871

No, actually. To me, it's not. It's just an unfortunate by-product of your bot. You were able to cram more weapons on than any other spinner because of the crawler/dancer design, so with literally 360 degrees of better offense and defense than anyone else, your bot had to have an achilles heel of sorts, which unfortunately happened to be the arena flippers. Part of competing to win a tourney is designing a bot to battle not only opposition, but in a specific environment. It appears to me that you only really took into account the opposition, and you lost because of it.

I hope I can put into words the sentiment about Bumble Bee around the forum:

For the longest time, Sage built some of the most innovative and powerful bots around, and we all respected his ability to get the most out of his designs. For the longest time too, we all frowned upon bot designs that couldn't "show controlled movement," as Click says, because we thought that just having masses of spikes flailing everywhere wasn't a fair way to win, when it couldn't even track down an opponent on its own. Somewhere along the way, it got warped into crawlers, which are completely legit designs, are also unfair. So when Sage, who we all love, entered a cralwer, which we hate for some reason, basically we defaulted to something along the lines of "NO U."
The only thing that I have against crawlers is that they are relatively easy to make in comparison to other bots, and it just seems like the lazy way out to me. I expected some epic HS-killing hammer bot out of Sage, and I was quite frankly disapointed by his entry, because he IS a great builder (I think I said this somewhere before...).

I hope I haven't sounded harsh or anything. This post wasn't meant to be offensive towards anyone, and I apologize in advance if I do manage to offend someone.

Also, the jokes are getting old guys, so stoppit >:O

I really liked this comment. Sorry to dissapoint.

As for the HS killing hammer, the problem with that is it can't kill other bots, as well as the arena it would be fighting in would block the hammers and prevent mobility because of the needed wide wedges. I also had to account for multi-bots, which a hammer would have an incredibly rough time killing.

I thought it through. It's not like I was lazy and was just like "Screw BBEANS, I'm gonna be lazy and enter an easy deisgn." I tested like 10 bots, and Bee had the best results, so I entered it. Looking back, It probably would have been better to do something else, but meh, it's over and done now anyways.

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #614 on:** July 26, 2009, 03:53:08 PM »

Round 7 loser's bracket is up.

This was a good round. There was not just one, but TWO matches I thought deserved a 5-star rating. The first of the tournament! They're long fights, but worth every minute.

Jack Daniels · « **Reply #615 on:** July 26, 2009, 04:09:55 PM »

Hey, Trojan vs Cocytus comes up as a broken link for me. FYI. Great matches otherwise!

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #616 on:** July 26, 2009, 04:34:49 PM »

Oops, I had the names of the bots switched around. It's fixed now.

RedSawn · « **Reply #617 on:** July 26, 2009, 05:21:43 PM »

Daaah, that's it, the dream run is over.
Heh, and to think I almost entered something different.

40757 · « **Reply #618 on:** July 26, 2009, 05:59:04 PM »

That's pretty much where I thought Vela would lose to. I should start working on my BBEANS6 bot since I'm actually not that good at DSL now :D

Pwnator · « **Reply #619 on:** July 26, 2009, 08:54:40 PM »

O_O

Now I'm really wondering if I would still go this far if I didn't enter a joke bot. O_O

I'm sure I'll be out this time. SS's wedges are close enough to counter the horsie's single wedge.