Author Topic: BBEANS5 Brackets and Videos (Read 87974 times)

Urjak · « **Reply #60 on:** April 19, 2009, 11:01:24 AM »

Were there not many controlled crawlers before then? I remeber making a contollable crawler when I first got the game.

System32 · « **Reply #61 on:** April 19, 2009, 11:15:43 AM »

Make it and AI it then.

Urjak · « **Reply #62 on:** April 19, 2009, 11:22:45 AM »

Oh.... I see what you are saying.... for BBEANS..... nevermind, I misunderstood.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #63 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:03:47 PM »

Quote from: Sage;34682

I don't think i will be facing R4 because it has to get past AC.

Truthfully, I'm not concerned about HS's.

Quote from: Sage;34682

Oh and guys- now that you see it being beaten, will you stop hating on it so much? please?

Nope.

infiniteinertia · « **Reply #64 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:51:45 PM »

A lot of people are forgetting the 'Haymaker Dynamic'...

Naryar · « **Reply #65 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:04:51 PM »

Sage, your bot might be controllable and perfectly legal, but the fact is that most people doesn't like crawlers.

And for them, entering a crawler into the most prestigious tournament ever is really cheap, and the bot itself is gay as

.

Same for me.

And yup, you're going to face our hatred as long as Bumble Bee is still in the tournament.

And if it wins... you probably won't get much credit for winning BBEANS 5.

Urjak · « **Reply #66 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:21:19 PM »

Why do so many people think it is so cheap?

System32 · « **Reply #67 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:25:09 PM »

Quote from: Naryar;34721

and the bot itself is gay as .

Thats it you homophobic son of a bitch, I'm sick of you pulling that sh** out.

By got, If I hear that again I'll book a flight to france just for the joy of shoving a baguette up your ass. Sideways.

R1885 · « **Reply #68 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:28:48 PM »

Because it completely by passes normal weapons and hits the targets top, which is often the least armored part of the bot.

Urjak · « **Reply #69 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:33:03 PM »

You know guys, I feel horrible for Sage. Who knows how long he has spent building that bot, and perfecting it so it works well. And now apparently even if he WINS BBEANS he wont get much credit for it. You got to be kidding right?! Winning BBEANS is a very difficult achievment, and you guys hate the bot just because you don't like crawlers. What is so bad about them anyway? Oh no... they have disks and weapons instead of wheels. What a nightmare! You guys also must realize that comes with big disadvantages, most of which due to their very poor mobility.

As we have seen, the bot can be beat, it is not Cheap Win 3000. So guys, just shut up about it.

man manu · « **Reply #70 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:50:59 PM »

Quit your jibberjabber! Crazy fools!

Venko · « **Reply #71 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:27:04 PM »

*Sorry Sage, nothing personal to you, but i agree with Nar. If "Cheap ghay win 3000" won BBEANS, the next BBEANS will be full only with crawlers... I build crawlers from beginning, but why you think i didn't enter a good one crawler? I do not want cheap win, thats why. And who say crawlers are hard to build and take long time?... Its not true*

System32 · « **Reply #72 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:29:04 PM »

To make them decent enough not to be owned by the first decent Hammer, Popup or VS they can be hard to make.

Venko · « **Reply #73 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:41:00 PM »

Quote from: System32;34737

To make them decent enough not to be owned by the first decent Hammer, Popup or VS they can be hard to make.

Nope.

Starcore · « **Reply #74 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:50:54 PM »

Quote from: Sage;34688

IS THAT SO BAD? AM I NOT ALLOWED TO TRY AND WIN? HUH?!!?

Plus, it's NOT a cheap win any more than anything else in this tourney. It follows all the rules. It's a bot that has never really been tried before and it works. It fits my tourney rule i gave myself to be original. IT CAN BE BEATEN.

I think you guys are all just jealous I made a bot you didn't think of first.

You are definitely allowed to try and win. It is not an issue of people being jealous. It is an issue of people considering it one of the forbidden technologies not allowed for the BBEANS tournaments.

It is a version of a Bubble Ball as you recognize even it its name: Bumble Bee.

The BBEANS General Rules for All Tournaments, Revised 2/26/09, Rule 3 States:

"Your bot must be able to show controlled (not random) movement at any time during the match, for as long as its drive system remains undamaged. Bumble balls, Nasty Pickles, piston fliers, or related designs do not count as controlled movement. A quick test: if your bot is able to track down an immobile opponent in an arena without walls, then it should be acceptable."

To recap, "...Bumble balls ... or related designs do not count as controlled movement."

It is your fault you submitted a design that is related to a Bumble Ball and it is Clickbeetle's fault for accepting it without warning the rest of the community and giving them time to respond.

How many people would have submitted Bumble Ball varients or armored their tops if they knew this kind of technology that was previously forbidden was being allowed for this tournament? You did not invent it, the design type has existed and been basically despised since 2005.

Do not call people jealous when they are angry at this being allowed and not being warned. You are just showing yourself for being shallow, lame, and covering your a$$.

Starcore

Sage · « **Reply #75 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:58:30 PM »

I named it bumble bee because it won't sting you if you don't try to hurt it, like a real bee.

Whatever. I guess if you guys want to put a forum wide vote, then Click might let me enter something else (not that i really want to.)

I'll be ok with entering something else. Whatever you guys think is necessary to keep your panties unbundled.

Urjak · « **Reply #76 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:12:34 PM »

This is so ridiculus....

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #77 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:18:25 PM »

This isn't a bumbleball. Bumble balls have internal motors that make them vibrate and move around. This is just a crawler.

Hell, I don't like crawlers either but this isn't Cheapwin3000. Chances are if something even slams it against a wall, it will fly out the arena.

Starcore · « **Reply #78 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:25:20 PM »

I do feel the design is a Bumble Ball varient and I would suggest it put to a forum wide vote if Sage and Clickbeetle will not act as they should.

I think that Clickbeetle should not have allowed it and in doing so he should have warned the rest of the community so they could adapt to what was previously a banned technology.

I suggested in private IM a week ago that Sage should coordinate with Clickbeetle to replace the bot before the first match is impacted and I was shrugged off.

I have nothing against Sage. I like him alot. I also know the technology well. ACAMS has a SHW in Starcore v3 to show the design. It was recognized as a problem technology and Click knew enough to ban it and related designs in the BBEANS General Rules.

I generally let you all scrabble and slam each other to your hearts content but when I see something is wrong I do articulate. Even back to the days of Ace Uplink banning people at whim with their "Ban Hammers" I stood up to them and pushed back hard.

Starcore

Wings · « **Reply #79 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:25:33 PM »

Quote from: Urjak;34745

This is so ridiculus....

Agreed.

As SD said, Sage's bot is not invincible, it can be beaten.

If Click thought it was against the rules, he would have rejected it and told Sage. But he didn't. Click accepted the bot into his tournment and we should respect that decision.