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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2016, 04:48:41 PM »
Some people like to spend there time outside RA2 you know not everyone is going to be a professional at it and tournaments like BW are meant for those kinds of people not tryhard no lifers.
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2016, 04:48:57 PM »
>Someone writes a massive negative review for a game
>It's just a game, get over it, the devs poured their heart and soul in to it, etc

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2016, 04:56:16 PM »
Some people like to spend there time outside RA2 you know not everyone is going to be a professional at it and tournaments like BW are meant for those kinds of people not tryhard no lifers.
also lol at most toxic guy around calling others out on this sh**
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2016, 05:00:42 PM »
I genuinely cannot believe some of you are trying to argue his way out of such a blatant, tournament-ruining **** up with such awful excuses.

You're right. It is just a game. There are no real stakes, and nobody is entitled to a rematch or re-do. What's done is done.

However, having such awful due diligence and totally screwing over competitors the way you have does reflect badly upon you and your ability to host tournaments, and we are within our rights to call it out, and others are well within their rights to refuse to enter your tournaments in the future if you're going to host them so poorly. I for one was interested in entering this series in the future but this incident, combined with the quite pathetic reaction means I never will, and there are probably many others who, upon seeing this, will have the same reaction. We're within our rights to, at bare minimum, point that out so others don't make the same mistake of joining in the future.

Unless, that is, you're at all willing to take some actual responsibility instead of sh**-talking us in the comments, thinking we won't notice, any time soon?

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2016, 05:06:52 PM »
Some people like to spend there time outside RA2 you know not everyone is going to be a professional at it and tournaments like BW are meant for those kinds of people not tryhard no lifers.
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I genuinely cannot believe some of you are trying to argue his way out of such a blatant, tournament-ruining **** up with such awful excuses.

You're right. It is just a game. There are no real stakes, and nobody is entitled to a rematch or re-do. What's done is done.

However, having such awful due diligence and totally screwing over competitors the way you have does reflect badly upon you and your ability to host tournaments, and we are within our rights to call it out, and others are well within their rights to refuse to enter your tournaments in the future if you're going to host them so poorly. I for one was interested in entering this series in the future but this incident, combined with the quite pathetic reaction means I never will, and there are probably many others who, upon seeing this, will have the same reaction. We're within our rights to, at bare minimum, point that out so others don't make the same mistake of joining in the future.

Unless, that is, you're at all willing to take some actual responsibility instead of sh**-talking us in the comments, thinking we won't notice any time soon?
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2016, 05:28:25 PM »
I can see where badnik is coming from.  It wasn't really clear that this would be as heavily edited as it is.  It would be not as bad if it had been stated earlier.
I didn't sign up for it but I feel the salt non the less.

I can see the intention behind it though and i must say apart from some minor stuff the editing is quite good

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2016, 03:59:22 AM »
Okay. To set things straight, I'm about to record the Heat F battles that Boomslang was in again. The battles will go up as a side competition. Hopefully, assuming my internet likes me, it should go up later today.

Boomslang will be its purest, unedited version so it will be fighting at full strength, starting with the first round battle against Sypder. I hope this makes up for the errors that were made. I had no intention of these mistakes happening and I'll make sure they don't happen again in the future.

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2016, 10:06:56 AM »
RIP my man Boomslang who was "deliberately sabotaged" as the morons would say. GTM can pay there respects at the fact that poor little Badniks robot was hurt boo freakin hoo now let's act like snobs
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2016, 10:11:46 AM »
You could have just left it on AHOG's note. Guess you gotta get your sick meme in tho XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2016, 10:19:14 AM »
I for one was interested in entering this series in the future but this incident, combined with the quite pathetic reaction means I never will...


Pathetic reaction? I can't control what fans of the show say, but my reaction has been as follows: Investigate what went wrong, explain what went wrong, apologise on multiple occasions, and upload a rematch with the corrected robot.

Please, tell me how my reaction was pathetic? What would you do in this situation? Or are you just taking the reactions of fans and putting that on me as the creator?

The fans have a right to criticise the backlash, because it's utterly mad! The overreaction has been crazy. It could have been settled with a PM and an apology from me, but the roboteer in question chose instead to come onto this forum and lie about my intentions. Now all his chums - including yourself - have jumped on the drama bandwagon and built a minor mistake into the 2016 robot holocaust.

Calm down. It was a mistake that I've apologised and made amends for. It was never going to be perfect.

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2016, 10:24:21 AM »
This whole incident disgusts me.
Overreaction? Are you joking me?
If someone made us take batteries out of Neutron and spin the disc the wrong way there would be an outcry.
And RW is an entertainment show before a competition, just as people are claiming this series is.
It's clear the people saying Badnik is overreacting clearly do not understand GTM tournaments, and are basically brand new. Probably love Redditbots too.

Will be monitoring this thread heavily. This needs to be amended and no more said.
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2016, 10:36:40 AM »
And RW is an entertainment show before a competition, just as people are claiming this series is.

There's a fundamental difference or two between Banter Wars and Robot Wars. You're clever enough to figure them out yourself.

Does nobody understand me, or do I have to keep repeating myself? I'll say it again...

It was a mistake! I've apologised! And I've uploaded rematches with the unedited robot!

What more do you want from me?

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2016, 10:40:23 AM »
Here are the rematches! Hope this will finally settle this mess.


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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2016, 10:41:41 AM »
And RW is an entertainment show before a competition, just as people are claiming this series is.

There's a fundamental difference or two between Banter Wars and Robot Wars. You're clever enough to figure them out yourself.

Yeah, you wouldn't make a video complaining about banter wars :)
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2016, 10:44:43 AM »
And RW is an entertainment show before a competition, just as people are claiming this series is.

There's a fundamental difference or two between Banter Wars and Robot Wars. You're clever enough to figure them out yourself.

Yeah, you wouldn't make a video complaining about banter wars being sh** :)

That would be a pretty stupid move on my part if I were to criticise my own show...

And no, that's not the difference. The main difference is a word that starts with M.

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2016, 10:47:26 AM »
And RW is an entertainment show before a competition, just as people are claiming this series is.

There's a fundamental difference or two between Banter Wars and Robot Wars. You're clever enough to figure them out yourself.

Yeah, you wouldn't make a video complaining about banter wars being sh** :)

That would be a pretty stupid move on my part if I were to criticise my own show...

And no, that's not the difference. The main difference is a word that starts with M.
Because no money = not serious

Righto, I think everything that was needed to be said has been said and everything that had needed to be done/acted upon by AHOG has been done. I'll be monitoring this thread closely for any further sights of flame war baiting or anything like that and, hopefully, an incident like this does not occur again.

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2016, 10:54:16 AM »
And RW is an entertainment show before a competition, just as people are claiming this series is.

There's a fundamental difference or two between Banter Wars and Robot Wars. You're clever enough to figure them out yourself.

Yeah, you wouldn't make a video complaining about banter wars being sh** :)

That would be a pretty stupid move on my part if I were to criticise my own show...

And no, that's not the difference. The main difference is a word that starts with M.
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To be fair it probably was a big mistake. AHOG obviously didn't know how seriously we take the integrity of our bots here, and short of a complete redo of the heat I think he handled it alright. The observerbot is still a pile of sh** tho :P


And boto, as always, is being a melodramatic whingey tard
also lol at most toxic guy around calling others out on this sh**
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2016, 11:00:06 AM »
Thanks YuGiTom.

Since this is my series and my thread, I feel that I can address that one thing you said as a last word:

I, AHOG, am the creator, and it is me who decides whether my project is serious. Not you. GTMers were allowed to enter because I thought you might enjoy it. You can't expect to control how serious my project is, though. A guest does not come into a household and demand what colour the walls in the bathroom should be. You're being possessive of the game because you think you have more right to what it produces than anybody else. The level of arrogance I've witnessed here has stunned me, and to tell ME, the person who created this project, how serious it should be taken, is just plain rudeness and displays a deep self-entitlement.

Okay, now I'm done. If anybody has any further issues, could we take it to PMs?

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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2016, 11:04:06 AM »
The handling of the situation is adequate for what the series is, however this won't be considered a GTM personal tournament as it doesn't fully follow regulations. In effect, you came into our house with a game of Cluedo trying to play your own house rules and we play standard.

Just to make clear I have no issues with Banter Wars and its great that many people enjoy it, but please don't be led into thinking any of us do this as more than a hobby. Perhaps it's just a difference in the way GTM is compared to other social boards.

Thank you for your efforts in resolving this ahog, and apologies for my reaction. I'm sure you can understand the situation.
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Re: Banter Wars Series 2!
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2016, 11:04:25 AM »
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AHOG obviously didn't know how seriously we take the integrity of our bots here

It's pretty much this