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Thrackerzod is bad at Stock
« on: August 14, 2014, 05:58:04 PM »
So I figure I should make one of these things, and a "42nd post celebration" seemed as good a reason as any.

Let's start with this guy:



That's DSA armor, 3 spikes on each end.

If I remember correctly, I made this for some tournament, then got immediately ripped to shreds.  Thoughts?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2015, 07:05:40 PM by Thrackerzod »

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 06:50:58 PM »
Not bad. The drive is good, but you only need a nifty for this bot. If you make the chassis small enough, you could make an HS/SnS hybrid with the saved weight (see: KOS_FLOW's showcase). Nice stacking though. Check around some other acclaimed showcases for inspiration (090901, Mr. AS, Virus Bomb, KOS_FLOW, etc.) and read the Beetle Bros. tutorial. Both of those are helpful in improving your building skills.
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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2014, 06:26:57 AM »
needs to be a bit longer, i believe

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2014, 10:56:59 AM »
You could probably use the 140cm extenders to get a lot more length and sweeping power.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 11:00:45 AM »
Episode 2: Now with longer:



Still DSA with 3 razors on each end.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2014, 11:07:58 AM »
You could probably use the 140cm extenders to get a lot more length and sweeping power.

They'd also be lighter than the setup you have now.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2014, 11:14:43 AM »
I actually was using the 140 cm extenders before, and they seemed to break off really easily.  Could have been my imagination though, and they wouldn't be too hard to put back on.

If I were to use them, it'd be 233.3.  What should I use the extra weight for?

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2014, 11:58:29 AM »
Mebey you should use axles, so the weapons "slap" the opponent.
Also, a Nifty would weigh less than all those pinks.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2014, 12:03:30 PM »
I would just make a very small chassis with 2 pinks in it and your HPZs outside the chassis, it would let you get more weapons.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2014, 09:25:10 PM »
Episode 3:



DSA, two pinks stacked in the middle there.  Have a close up on the ends of the arms:



This thing is really fun to drive actually. I have a bit of extra weight to play with as well, if necessary.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 09:31:06 PM »
You should try putting the axle first and then attaching the 140cm too it. I would also recomend using the extra weight on bear claws or maces/irons.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2014, 12:18:05 PM »
Alright, so I put this together:



The weapons seem to just flop around uselessly.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2014, 05:48:33 PM »
Threw on a couple more spikes to see if that would somehow balance it out, but nope:



Continues to flop around and accomplish nothing.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2014, 10:34:16 AM »
Let it spin for a few seconds, it'll straighten out eventually.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2014, 11:41:00 AM »
Are you driving your bot like an SNS? like this:


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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2014, 01:04:36 PM »
That's how I have been driving it.  Sometimes the weapons will straighten out (usually not, though), but even then, the irons don't seem to do nearly as much damage as the earlier version with razors.  The axle seems to be a big weak point, though, so I might try rearranging the weapons to be similar to how KOS has them.

EDIT:



It seems to actually do a lot less damage than the one with razors arranged vertically.

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2014, 03:11:36 PM »
So I was playing around and:



It's... not incredibly effective.

EDIT:

Okay, I actually tried on this one, but it's not really all that much more effective.



I'm fairly certain that I've done several things wrong.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 09:28:32 PM by Thrackerzod »

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 02:03:24 PM »
Triple post FTW.

I dug up another one of my older designs, messed with it a bit, and tada:



There is a lot of wasted space, though it's very stable.  The tribars get torn off kinda frequently though, and it doesn't have the speed to KO with the front wedge of spikes, so that's a bit of a weakness.  Any tips I should mind before I go about trying to shrink the chassis and build it again?

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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 02:18:49 PM »
Okay, what you should try is:
1) Try and get 4wd in there, try something like this with the wheels:
2)Make the VS setup on Baseplate Anchors instead of a servo and use disks with Iron spikes on instead of clubs.
3)Replace the front rack of spike strips with ramplates for better protection against HS.
4)Remove empty space.



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Re: Thrackerbots
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2014, 12:48:12 PM »
Well, sure took me long enough.  Thanks for the tips!



How does that look?