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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1300 on: August 29, 2010, 10:27:02 AM »
I agree with cheese, use plows instead of ramplates. Do the servos make the bot bounce at all?


Enjoy 200HP of defense then, compared to however much 2 ramplates offer.

Do you even play stock consistently ? Plows have more than 100 HP !

Plows are lighter for the same HP, but ramplates deal some damage.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1301 on: August 29, 2010, 10:36:20 AM »
Why do you continue to disbelieve Trovaner?
My above post explains everything about everything.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1302 on: August 29, 2010, 10:41:11 AM »
Don't think that I'm gonna be a sparkey and not work on that last bot, I just needed to klone something (is it really a Klone?)

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1303 on: August 29, 2010, 10:41:30 AM »
I agree with cheese, use plows instead of ramplates. Do the servos make the bot bounce at all?


Enjoy 200HP of defense then, compared to however much 2 ramplates offer.

Do you even play stock consistently ? Plows have more than 100 HP !

Plows are lighter for the same HP, but ramplates deal some damage.



I'm sorry to say that extenders use the default values of the base type 'Component' (the type listed in the text file) which is 100 HP with 15 fracture.

In terms of efficiency, weapons are generally the best but here are some numbers and formulas for you to look at:
(HP+Fracture)/Weight
Weapons: Bear Claw (127.5), Ice Pick(Single) (127.5), Ninja Star (127.5), Pointy Tip (127.5), and Pole Spike (127.5)
Wheels: Shiny Hub (35), Rubber (24.71), Mini (24.71), Buzzard (24.71), and SlipperBottom (23.33)
Motor/Piston: Reversible Angle Drive (26.25), Redbird (20), Burst/Servo Piston (19.09), Snapper2 Burst Motor (19.09), and Servo Motor 302 (19.09)
Component: Round Extender(20cm) (57.5), Emergency Wedge (44.28), Rotator Bar (37.14), Disc(60cm) (34.67), Disc(80cm) (30.59)

((10-SizeRank)/10)*(HP+Fracture)/Weight
(SizeRank is just the ranking that I gave the component in terms of size (some were close to the same so I repeated numbers))(10 is the number of components that I evaluated)
1. Battle Axe (30.6)
2. Emergency Wedge (22.14)
3. Ramplate (20.8)
4. Disc(140cm) (20.35)
5. Disc(120cm) (19.81)

Personally, I prefer to use battle axes, ramplates, or castors on my bots (depends on the design). Battle Axes are large and can deal more damage than ramplates. Ramplates have the highest fracture (which was poorly represented in the formulas) and can damage components from all sides. Castors are invincible but can't protect the chassis as well as ramplates. On a side note, although snowplows are wide, they have the same HP and Fracture as round extenders (which was its downfall in the latter formula).

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1304 on: August 29, 2010, 10:47:24 AM »
Wait. I just checked and ramplates have 1000 HP.

But plows share the 'component' base and have no hitpoints value in their txt meaning they should have 100 HP... but from experience i'm pretty sure they have more than 100 HP :O

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1305 on: August 29, 2010, 10:49:42 AM »
Wait. I just checked and ramplates have 1000 HP.

But plows share the 'component' base meaning they have 100 HP... but from experience i'm pretty sure they have more than 100 HP :O
Snowplows only seem like they have more HP because there hitbox is a little ridiculous.
You need to attack the plow's weak-point for massive damage in order to have it fly off.
Basically every other hit to the plow only does like half the damage its suposed to.

But the Ram plate's entire thing is the hitbox. So thats why that one has more HP.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1306 on: August 29, 2010, 10:51:04 AM »
Wait. I just checked and ramplates have 1000 HP.

But plows share the 'component' base meaning they have 100 HP... but from experience i'm pretty sure they have more than 100 HP :O
Snowplows only seem like they have more HP because there hitbox is a little ridiculous.
You need to attack the plow's weak-point for massive damage in order to have it fly off.
Basically every other hit to the plow only does like half the damage its suposed to.

But the Ram plate's entire thing is the hitbox. So thats why that one has more HP.

:O this is new

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1307 on: August 29, 2010, 10:53:21 AM »
Wait. I just checked and ramplates have 1000 HP.

But plows share the 'component' base meaning they have 100 HP... but from experience i'm pretty sure they have more than 100 HP :O
Snowplows only seem like they have more HP because there hitbox is a little ridiculous.
You need to attack the plow's weak-point for massive damage in order to have it fly off.
Basically every other hit to the plow only does like half the damage its suposed to.

But the Ram plate's entire thing is the hitbox. So thats why that one has more HP.

:O this is new
From my experience, I'm assuming this is how those weapons go.
Thats why plows stay on more if you hit them on the side, as it isnt where the hitbox is located.
Ramplates on the other hand, do take damage when you hit them from the side.
*is now wondering if a backwards snowplow would be invincible*

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1308 on: August 29, 2010, 10:55:38 AM »
I am 99% sure that a 'hitbox' does not exist.
My above post explains everything about everything.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1309 on: August 29, 2010, 10:56:34 AM »
Don't think that I'm gonna be a sparkey and not work on that last bot, I just needed to klone something (is it really a Klone?)
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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1310 on: August 29, 2010, 10:57:36 AM »
UNDERWEIGHT
My above post explains everything about everything.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1311 on: August 29, 2010, 10:58:17 AM »
*reacts to sparkey*

Not too bad i guess but... Empty space, bad front extender setup AND AGAIN uuuuuuuunnnnnnnnddddddddddeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttttttt


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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1312 on: August 29, 2010, 11:00:20 AM »
I forget, what's the *remembers sticky topic*

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1313 on: August 29, 2010, 11:00:59 AM »
wat
My above post explains everything about everything.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1314 on: August 29, 2010, 11:02:16 AM »
I was going to ask what the weight for a LW is.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1315 on: August 29, 2010, 11:03:05 AM »
TLT


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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1316 on: August 29, 2010, 11:03:48 AM »
249.0 kg max... and you know it !

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1317 on: August 29, 2010, 11:05:02 AM »
I am 99% sure that a 'hitbox' does not exist.
Snowplows have lower HP then ramplates, but stay on a lot longer, as they dont always get hit in the center.

explain that, K?

EDIT: This also adds to the fact how the sword blades only do damage with the dull side, as its hitbox is backward.

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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1318 on: August 29, 2010, 11:11:16 AM »
EDIT: This also adds to the fact how the sword blades only do damage with the dull side, as its hitbox is backward.

Normals.

Edit: Or not. But nobody has ever said that there is a 'hitbox' before. I vote we ask Trovaner or someone else who understands these things.
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Re: Sparkeys showcase
« Reply #1319 on: August 29, 2010, 11:11:29 AM »
TLT

shut the heck up you little spammer.


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