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Re: Hi5's Stocktacular Bots
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2016, 01:48:49 PM »
You could make the bot wider with that extra weight, that would probably help keep it from getting on its side in the first place and probably help a bit against HS

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Re: Hi5's Stocktacular Bots
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2016, 04:46:39 PM »
Finally, I was wondering when you would put that bot up here and thought about asking.
Hey wait, this isn't actually the version that fought Redace(would've loved to see a picture of that), that one had razors on the front(which I really liked and was fitting with the bot theme. Were that many self righting problems?)
I've been having some issues building something efficient as well(minus that one MW, check my thread if you want to see what I've been up to lately.)
You didn't mention it's name(Redrum?) it's ran from one supervolt I guess?
With the red color and that bracket it really had a devil like look, and the only thing I'd change is move the anchor for the bracket a bit lower so that it doesn't float in the air/possibly put an extender(maybe you just have the weight) just as a visual detail? And if possible the Razors because I really loved the look that the bot had.

You could make the bot wider with that extra weight, that would probably help keep it from getting on its side in the first place and probably help a bit against HS
Wider? Unless you extend the chassis on layer two so that it's like this: \ |  | / it won't really help with self righting and even then you can get stuck easily(you will sometimes end up on the side, no matter what), I think the spikes are a nice decoration and help a lot with that. Since extenders only have 100? HP and weapons have 1000 they're more stable as well.
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Re: Hi5's Stocktacular Bots
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2016, 05:58:01 PM »
more width = lesss likely to get owned by hs and sns and will more stable, plus i never said it had anything to do with self righting.

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Re: Hi5's Stocktacular Bots
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2016, 03:21:48 AM »
Finally, I was wondering when you would put that bot up here and thought about asking.
Hey wait, this isn't actually the version that fought Redace(would've loved to see a picture of that), that one had razors on the front(which I really liked and was fitting with the bot theme. Were that many self righting problems?)

Yeah heh heh, I can't believe I left it this long since my last update here... I liked the design of the other one too, but having a drumbot seems to make havoks more common... It's weird, but the bracket and the 2 razors would always perfectly balance me on my side, which to be honest, when you're owning someone and the game bugs out, it is really frustrating; the irons have fixed the issue from my testing.

I've been having some issues building something efficient as well(minus that one MW, check my thread if you want to see what I've been up to lately.)
You didn't mention it's name(Redrum?) it's ran from one supervolt I guess?

The name is "Murder" backwards, like in the film "The Shining". In the film this guy basically goes nuts and starts writing RedRum, RedRum everywhere and it's not until it is shown in a mirror, that is revealed that the word is Murder backwards... RedRum/Murder, the bot got a red coat of paint :) (blood, but also fits), but as it's a drum bot as well, it's pronounced Re-Drum as a bit of a play on words.

With the red color and that bracket it really had a devil like look, and the only thing I'd change is move the anchor for the bracket a bit lower so that it doesn't float in the air/possibly put an extender(maybe you just have the weight) just as a visual detail? And if possible the Razors because I really loved the look that the bot had.

There might be a way to position the razors so as not to get it stuck on it's side, because I agree it did look good... And if I remember rightly, I think the bracket does have a single 20cm extender below it? I could be wrong...

You could make the bot wider with that extra weight, that would probably help keep it from getting on its side in the first place and probably help a bit against HS
Wider? Unless you extend the chassis on layer two so that it's like this: \ |  | / it won't really help with self righting and even then you can get stuck easily(you will sometimes end up on the side, no matter what), I think the spikes are a nice decoration and help a lot with that. Since extenders only have 100? HP and weapons have 1000 they're more stable as well.

I suppose I could do a few tests that way, as it stands though, the drum sits (almost) perfectly in the middle of the bot, which helps a lot with stability, I essentially built the design around how big I would need the gap in the middle of the two wedges and went from there. HS do own it unfortunately... Not sure if there is much I can do about that in all honesty.
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Re: Hi5's Stocktacular Bots
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2016, 08:38:16 AM »
Yeah heh heh, I can't believe I left it this long since my last update here... I liked the design of the other one too, but having a drumbot seems to make havoks more common... It's weird, but the bracket and the 2 razors would always perfectly balance me on my side, which to be honest, when you're owning someone and the game bugs out, it is really frustrating; the irons have fixed the issue from my testing.
I can imagine the position that it gets stuck in, I guess it also gets stuck on it's side if there are no Razors. Can you place the baseplate anchors over the battery? Would be interesting to see what happens if the Razors are that far back or what happens if you keep them at the current position but swap the irons with Razors.

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The name is "Murder" backwards, like in the film "The Shining". In the film this guy basically goes nuts and starts writing RedRum, RedRum everywhere and it's not until it is shown in a mirror, that is revealed that the word is Murder backwards... RedRum/Murder, the bot got a red coat of paint :) (blood, but also fits), but as it's a drum bot as well, it's pronounced Re-Drum as a bit of a play on words.
Oh, I didn't originally ask where the name came from(it just wasn't mentioned anywhere in the showcase) but that's interseting, always thought it was Red-Drum written in a fancy way. Something tells me that this isn't exactly a movie that I'd enjoy too much, but I like the name idea.

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There might be a way to position the razors so as not to get it stuck on it's side, because I agree it did look good... And if I remember rightly, I think the bracket does have a single 20cm extender below it? I could be wrong...
The 20cm extender just blended in so well with the bucket, thought it was the same part. I'd just lower the baseplate anchor by one or two points so that the extender actually connects to the chassis, don't think it would effect the combat performance by too much.
I also noticed that you're using a 140cm extender now?(old one was 120 I think) I don't know if having a longer wedge like that helps a drumbot, having it closer might help with gutripping so that the bot will land on the chassis wedges/drum after the impact instead of on the extender.

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I suppose I could do a few tests that way, as it stands though, the drum sits (almost) perfectly in the middle of the bot, which helps a lot with stability, I essentially built the design around how big I would need the gap in the middle of the two wedges and went from there. HS do own it unfortunately... Not sure if there is much I can do about that in all honesty.
I've noticed how fast the drums spin and seeing how RA2 does have at least a bit of Gyroscopic forces I think that's what helps with it. What 090901 said is usually true but since this has rather steep wedges I don't think it's going to help too much(also while he didn't mention Self Righting he mentioned that it would help the bot not to get on it's side, which is true I guess but from what I've seen you will land on the side some time anyways, so better be prepared for that)

Don't think there's anything you can do against HS, but I like the bot like it is.
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