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« on: May 13, 2016, 09:57:25 AM »
[...]or try to delete manually the component from the botfile
This is not an option, I'm afraid. The host cannot alter any of his entrant's bots (unless it's for the gimmick of the tournament.) You accepted his entry to begin with and did not inform him that his robot was illegal. Due to this, I advise you ask him about altering his bot before outright rejecting as you should have rejected it around the time it was sent in and before accepting his entry.
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« on: May 13, 2016, 09:51:11 AM »
Well, whoever has that probation would have been perma-banned for a reason. They shouldn't be doing anything to give them a warning after that, anyway. The probation period shouldn't matter.
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« on: May 12, 2016, 01:21:42 PM »
It'd be an interesting reminder to us in the future when we're making much better RA3 botm robots but 5 days to make a bot and splash may be too little time.
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« on: May 11, 2016, 04:09:32 PM »
Triple post :O Totally forgot to post this.
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« on: May 11, 2016, 03:49:00 PM »
Yeah, you need something like gameranger or Hamachi. As you can see in this board ( https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?board=48.0), arranging matches on gameranger and Hamachi is pinned, so you can look for people to play there, unless you have someone you already want to play, of course. This is only the case for RA2. When RA3 comes out, you do not need to use these methods.
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« on: May 11, 2016, 05:46:16 AM »
Although I agree that his actions were rather irrational, I would still like to apologize nonetheless. I don't wish to tread on ground I have no right to tread on and I think Naryar has done a good job by clearly explaining what Craaig was proposing.
However, I still stand by the principle that the community should have their say in this to make them feel safe around disruptive members. I have argued for the mods to be able to do things at their discretion before but I see nothing wrong with community input and scrutiny, something which I believe has been handled maturely, without drama, up until Craaig leaving.
@Badger That's exactly what I've been saying and I couldn't agree more. Thanks, Nary.
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« on: May 11, 2016, 01:27:04 AM »
I'm issuing an apology to Craaig and any staff members that have felt any pressure or undue stress due to my posts. I know it's not my place to impose opinion but what I believed was debating using my opinion clearly got out of hand. Unless Craaig views this as a guest, I doubt he will see it but I will be sure to contact him on Steam at some point today in order to make sure that I get my apology across to him because I feel bad that I may have caused this.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 06:33:50 PM »
Earlier on I did propose a system involving appeals after timeframes and stuff that we are talking about, I think it'll work well.
(N.B. don't critique this message as OMG BAD IDEA because you don't know the whole proposal and you'll look dumb)
The only problem I have with this is, it ensures any and all members that, whatever they do, they'll have a chance at an appeal. Surely, that diminishes the point of permanently banning them in the first place, as they are complacent in knowing that they can come back. How would appeals work? Would they be allowed to appeal after making another account? If so, will they be allowed to post in the time period of appeal? I just think the way we look at perma-banning should change. It shouldn't be something you can recover from. I believe appeals or negotiations would work better if they simply reduced the amount of time they were banned for. For example, you could give someone a year long ban and, given they do not harass anyone outside of the forum or create multi-accounts, they'd be allowed to negotiate a new amount of time they should be banned for, after a while. Appealing a permanent ban seems like a weird concept to me because the appellant hasn't been on the forum for us to witness change, so why would our attitude change towards them other than "everyone deserves a second chance"?
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« on: May 10, 2016, 05:12:06 PM »
@Yugitom: The problem with your proposition is that if Andrew were to return after that temp ban, there would be little guarantee that his behaviour would improve after his sentence, seeing as he has had a history of being muted and warned in the past. With a permanent ban, your message is far likelier to get across as it is the most severe punishment a forum can deliver, whilst still leaving the door open for reformation.
However, he had the comfort of knowing he wasn't IP banned and that he could come back whenever he wanted, once people had calmed down. Something which he did. He didn't wait until he thought he was rehabilitated enough for the forum to handle him, he just came back at his leisure when he thought the reaction to his arrival would be exactly as it's panned out right now, a lot of people defending him asking to give him a second chance.
Also, with the court comparison, I would say it's more to do with being given life and then getting out early on good behaviour. However, the argument of whether life should actually mean life is something different.
I agree that the discretion on the minimum time a user should spend being banned before being allowed into the community should be decided upon by the staff, but the staff did agree to allow Andy to come back onto the website provided he followed their terms and conditions.
Parole hearings are still granted whether the prisoner is worthy or not of being released from jail; the only thing that needs to be done is for the prisoner to serve the minimum sentence. It is then the judicial system's decision whether or not the prisoner should be paroled or not.
This isn't a minimum time issue. He was permanently banned, not temporarily. That's the kind of ban that is the last resort. By using a ban like that, I would assume that the person or people behind the decision to apply it had no intention of the member returning. Although HA was allowed to return, I really don't see why he was. He may have been sincere and upfront about his return but, surely, that doesn't matter in this case. What I'm trying to get at it is, who's being held accountable for the initial perma-banning of HA? I think I need to know exactly why he or a collective did it to understand whether or not quashing the ban is reasonable. Because, right now, it seems like Craaig let him back on the basis that he hasn't been around for a while and must've changed. On the one hand, there's actually zero reason to let him stay, given what we know, on the other, what's the worst that could happen? But for everyone complaining about consistency in the rules, that's literally never been the case
Then, how about we start now? Perhaps it'll set the mods off on a good track record of upholding rules and keeping them consistent.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 04:18:38 PM »
@Yugitom: The problem with your proposition is that if Andrew were to return after that temp ban, there would be little guarantee that his behaviour would improve after his sentence, seeing as he has had a history of being muted and warned in the past. With a permanent ban, your message is far likelier to get across as it is the most severe punishment a forum can deliver, whilst still leaving the door open for reformation.
However, he had the comfort of knowing he wasn't IP banned and that he could come back whenever he wanted, once people had calmed down. Something which he did. He didn't wait until he thought he was rehabilitated enough for the forum to handle him, he just came back at his leisure when he thought the reaction to his arrival would be exactly as it's panned out right now, a lot of people defending him asking to give him a second chance. Also, with the court comparison, I would say it's more to do with being given life and then getting out early on good behaviour. However, the argument of whether life should actually mean life is something different.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 03:28:02 PM »
I did some research into the subject, and I'm pretty sure that anyone prominent that has been perma-banned has made some kind of attempt to return to the site, whether it's to change their behaviour so they can be given another chance or to just continue trolling. If we know it's Andy, and he's not actively breaking the rules, and has had an extended hiatus from the website, why should he banned again?
Rules need to be upheld properly, even if that wasn't the case in the past. I think the question here is with what those rules should be.
Although I agree the rules should be upheld (Andy even broke the multi-account rule by making the new account in the first place, something which Mechadino was, at least, muted for, iirc), this isn't a question of what the rules should be, as we're already at the point at which someone has been perma-banned. What might be wrong was the decision to ban him permanently in the first place, considering how everyone is being so vocal about giving him a second chance. My opinion is that, if he was permanently banned, he shouldn't even have the option (never mind anyone in the past that actually did) to come back. If the higher-ups felt that the situation with Andy was so dire that he needed to be permanently banned, then he should stay that way. If the higher-ups thought that some time off would do him good but it's so dire he just needs about half a year being banned, then they would have done that.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 11:34:36 AM »
I just believed GTM could get past old feelings if the member shows improvement, which Goon has. It's everyone else that hasn't changed.
yes because making a thread asking if someone is autistic is definitely showing improvement
When'd he do this? On the HA account? On the Goon account?
It was yesterday and about you; https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18959.msg700913#msg700913
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« on: May 10, 2016, 11:33:18 AM »
I think people are more likely in this day and age to be attracted to a band which attempts to push their own limits or practice a certain musical vision
I really do not think so. When I listen to music, I don't care how difficult it was to perform or how diverse it is from the 'mainstream', just as long as it sounds good, I'm fine and I think that's what any average music listener looks for, too. If it was difficult to perform but doesn't sound as good as that other band that make it look easy, I don't care. Complexity or innovation just doesn't matter to me or the average Joe.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 11:11:35 AM »
Forgive me for not knowing what you mean by self-awareness, in this situation. Also, I highly doubt most of their fans are <16 because they have been on a fairly long hiatus. And, ~16 is probably around the time when people start getting into metal, so of course they'll be attracted to the generic famous bands like Disturbed.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 10:59:48 AM »
I understand that I probably should have not stated my opinion so bluntly, so I'm sorry about that. Also, I can't focus on the lyrics because the way the vocalist sounds makes me want to commit, not to mention that the way he is singing is making his words near incomprehensible, too. Lyrics aren't that important to me, anyway. As long as the music sounds good, including how the vocalist sounds (not what he is actually saying), I'm fine with it. I'm sure that, if I put emphasis on lyrics, I'd really dislike HU but I also think I'd be better suited to poetry :P
I hope you're not labeling my music taste childish because of the lyrics of their songs (mostly HU, I imagine) because I don't care about them.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 10:39:06 AM »
I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.
I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.
How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?
Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.
we scratch each other's backs because we like music that isn't garbage. apparently you like music that is garbage which is cool i guess
also i'm pretty sure the consensus is very much the opposite of it being rubbish:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/05/05/vektor-terminal-redux-make-space-great/ (4.5/5)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21645-vektor-terminal-redux/ (8.2/10)
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Vektor/Terminal_Redux/562580/cytoSiN/306929 (97/100)
http://themetalist.net/album-review-vektor-terminal-redux/ ("A truly fantastic and quintessentially unique listen")
honestly though if you like Hollywood Undead and Disturbed past the age of about 13 you need to get out more
Woah, I didn't want a full blown argument. I said it was a rubbish just because I don't like it. I don't think anything said in a music thread has to be prefaced by 'imo' because music is all opinion based. I think it's rich to say that listening to Disturbed past the age of 13 is bad when you're listening to a song that is similar in genre but with an incomprehensible vocalist that sounds like he's having a mental breakdown.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 10:31:31 AM »
We were informed of Goon's identity prior to any posts being made. Imagine what it would've been like if he came back on the prior account. Nobody cared about Goon being around until they learned of who he is, seems a little prejudiced imo.
Of course it is, it's because people now know his identity. If a new member joins, people don't judge them until they start doing stuff. In this case, people know what he has done before, so they have a right to form that opinion. I love how, with ~10 posts, people are saying that he's gotten better. He's just quiet at the moment. It's not like, when he was using his HA account, he was 'trolling' 24/7. I suppose I'd be okay with seeing how he does and if he's actually better (with a zero tolerance attitude) but I'm wondering why he was perma-banned in the first place if people are so quick to let him come back. Like I said, it undermines being perma-banned in the first place.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 09:38:52 AM »
regardless of what he was like with his other account.
Why should we disregard that? Doesn't that undermine the purpose of perma-banning?
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« on: May 09, 2016, 11:32:48 AM »
I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.
I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw. How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?
Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.
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« on: May 08, 2016, 01:59:03 PM »
Definitely this. I skip over extremely large images 9/10 times and never look at them again.
Couldn't you just wait for them to load up? Doesn't seem like the best of reasons to "never look at them again" IMHO.
It has to do with my initial interest. If it's something I know for a fact that I'll be interested in and will be worth the wait for the image to load, I'll wait. However, if it's something I'm not that interested in or I have no idea what the image is going to be, I can't be be bothered to wait, especially when viewing on my phone, which I do a lot. It's excruciating on my phone because, whenever I scroll down, I'm shot back up because another image has started to load. This will lead to me to ignoring entire threads if it's an image heavy thread or there just so happens to be a fair few images on that one page I was about to read. In this case, it was the 1/10, because I'm interested in Robot Wars Live and he mentioned Snappy, so I wanted to see what the pictures were.
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