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« on: September 04, 2016, 12:45:49 PM »
I really like this arena; nice job :)
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« on: September 04, 2016, 12:32:11 PM »
I don't see a reason to ban RO7 break, especially as you're gonna want to kill yourself if you're checking for it on every bot.
same thoughts here
Perhaps I'll reconsider, then. Excited!!!!!!!
There are many pros with this tournament, but there is one con...
AI is too stupid!!
Issue happens with spinners with bars!
After AIing my bot, it ramed opoposition and pushed it that it couldn't spin up bars.
I think you'll find there are issues with your AI, not the tournament. Go here to sort those problems out.
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« on: September 04, 2016, 12:07:16 PM »
Will component freedom be allowed?
I've decided to not allow it for this tournament. If people think that the tournament bots would have been better after the fact, then I will change this rule for the next one. Also, this very nearly ready for signups. So, check the OP and see if anything is omitted that you would like clarification on.
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« on: September 04, 2016, 10:43:29 AM »
The commentators don't seem to have an idea on what's going on.
Kenny actually did surprise me with what he said during the matches. I think it's unfair to say that. That other guy doesn't, tho. And I have mentioned that the active weapons rifle has to be changed.
Always hated the active weapons rifle 
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« on: September 04, 2016, 09:38:25 AM »
I have no ill will towards Chomp (although I feel it's wins were incredibly undeserving) but it definitely shouldn't have won the Founders' Award. Especially when the criteria is: bringing an exemplary bot that does interesting things and pushes the sport in the direction in which the founders hope BattleBots will grow. The only 'interesting' thing it did was reveal how crap the rules were. Although I don't fully agree with the sentiment, I do kinda agree with R01 about the series 7 thing. Due to Biteforce winning in a 'controversial' way in series 1, the producers wanted to prevent it winning the same way, again. Thus, the horrible primary weapon rule. In fact, it was so poorly drafted, that people were on Biteforce's side when it lost to Chomp. Also, I still think the weapon choice on Bombshell was an incredibly risky move and that using the VS would've been smarter, as it doesn't look as flimsy as the hammer and HS. Just imho, tho. I don't claim to to know how sturdy the VS on Bombshell is and how well it could take hits from Tombstone.
466
« on: September 03, 2016, 06:45:14 AM »
Is Steel Syko actually "the first fully fuctioning ring spinner"? Seems like a pseudo ring spinner, to me.
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« on: September 01, 2016, 11:57:58 PM »
Anyone else think that the weapon choice for Bombshell, in the final, was absolutely stupid? Even if the VS took too much damage and was out of commission for the final, surely the hammer would have done better than the HS. If I were them, the HS weapon would have been the very last thing I would've considering attaching. Anyone know the reasoning behind the weapon choice?
Would've much preferred if Biteforce or Beta were the champs, or at least got to the finals but, at least a GTMer got the finals :P
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« on: August 31, 2016, 01:18:48 PM »
Are there any bot restrictions? Like no SnS, no crawlers, no 1WD, etc?
Also, is Retooled meant to be DSL-S style or Stock style?
Retooled is DSL-S. As for banned bot types, I will update the OP with them, later. Until then, everyone making bots, be good sportsmen :P
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« on: August 31, 2016, 11:21:51 AM »
(Image removed from quote.)
Basic Rules:
-Stock HW, normal stock rules (unrealistic)
-No custom components or cheatbot2
-Ro7 break is allowed
-No BFE, AAM, Ra2cf or other BS. Offending bots will be disqualified
-2 minute matches, Bo3, double elim
-Robots must have 2 powered wheels and show controlled movement
-I can reject a robot for any reason
-Arena is the RAW 2 arena with hazards on and modified start positions
The Gimmick:
Everyone who signs up picks a MW or HW that comes with the stock AI. After I have 16 entrants I'll randomize and redistribute them among the entrants for you to build your bot. Go read the Pot Luck thread if you want a better explanation of the process.
Gimmick Rules:
-All robots must use the original chassis as the stock AI.
-Robots must be the same type as the original stock AI bot. Some bots (see: Ronin) have been changed to make them not completely
terrible. See the list below for allowed bot types.
-Armor cannot be changed (all stock AI armor is x2 as strong anyway)
-Wedges are not allowed (both small and e-wedges) unless they are a part of the original stock bot. For reference the only bot allowed to use wedges is EMERGENCY.
ALARM: Poker
Sentinel: Flipper
Sabre Tooth: Side-Hammer
Grog the Warrior: VS
Mud Runner: Hammer
BEAR: Hammer/Side-Hammer Hybrid
Bushido: Hammer
Ronin: Wammer or Popup**
Devil: Wammer
Coal Miner: Face Spinner
The Boxer: Poker***
EMERGENCY: Flipper****
Dementia: Weaponed Flipper*****
Little Metal Friend: Side Hammer
Iceberg: Hammer
SnowJob: Rammer or Pusher
Backlash: True Popup******
Wide Load: Poker
Lug Nut: Rammer
Hanky Panky: Weaponed Flipper or Clamp*****
Razor: Wammer
Eye Poker: Rammer
Da Dog: Rammer or Pusher
Big Dog: Rammer or Pusher*******
REVENGE: Bar HS********
Raptor: Hammer
Tornado: HS*********
Deadbeat: Hammer
Ripblade: VS
Backyard Ripper: Angled HS or Juggler
*Bear must have at least 4 bear claws as active weapons
**Ronin can only use Samurai Swords if being rebuilt as a popup
***The Boxer must have at least 2 iron fists as active weapons
****EMERGENCY must use at least 2 Emergency wedges and cannot use any weapons or small wedges
*****Weaponed Flippers can have maximun of 1 weapon attached to a burst motor. I will reject the bot if I feel you're going for a true popup
******Backlash can only use axeheads as it's weapons
*******Big Dog cannot be picked as I will be rebuilding it as a byebot
********Revenge can only be built as a bar HS and can have a max of 24 weapons
*********Tornado cannot use tribars or disks and has can have a max of 24 weapons
Other Rules:
-I can AI, and I believe I have all my .pys up to date
-No cheat .pys
-Standard havok restart rules, each bot get's one free pass before it forfeits the round
-One update per person
you can signup to be a backup after signups are full. Amount of backups is unlimited
-Byebot if needed will be a rebuilt Big Dog
tl;dr i stole stock's revenge's gimmick and pot lucks gimmick, put'em together, and made a tournament. Please Clap.
Any other suggestions? kinda feel like I should mix up some of the bot types some more as there are a lot of bots of the same type. On the other hand they all have completely different chassis' and I feel that changing too many of them goes against the idea of the tournament. Probably gonna change the rules about Revenge and Tornado to balance them better with the other bots.
This is now a signups topic and the rules quoted may not change. You've got 3 months, enjoy :)
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« on: August 31, 2016, 11:04:31 AM »
It seems we've reached a decision. I am very sorry about those would have preferred the third metagame to be DSL, but I hope that I see you guys entering the tournament, regardless. With that out of the way, I will see if there are any rules that need to be added or polished and I will also try and get confirmation on the prizes. The metagames that this tournament will be taking place in are Stock (MW), Ironforge (LW) and Retooled (HW). I'm not accepting entrants yet, but starting to build now may be a good idea
471
« on: August 30, 2016, 07:05:34 PM »
just saw this
so it's retool HW, stock MW, and DSL/IF MW?
Correct, except it'll be DSL/IF LW. If you really want to be fancy you could have a different ribbon for each meta. It'd also solve the issue of someone winning more than one version.
That's the plan.
Also I would move the start points in the RA2T2 arena forward as I'm pretty sure stilt bots get caught on the wall when the match starts
Righto, I'll get on that (or Mr AS, if he doesn't mind, rather :P)
It'll be Stock MW.
OK, same question for 1WD MW HS
Yeah, I doubt 1WD bots will be outright banned but something with more wheels would be appreciated :)
472
« on: August 30, 2016, 02:25:59 PM »
It'll be Stock MW.
473
« on: August 30, 2016, 12:02:42 PM »
Sportsman Class - ReTooled HW (Most balanced game with the most weight allowance)
Intermediate Class - DSL 2.2 MW (More optimised designs with less weight to play with)
Pro/Open Class - Stock 1.4 LW (optimise is basically a must with little weight to play with)
Super into this idea. I would say have a vote between DSL and Ironforge because of their similarities.
Yet another thing the GTM Discord has decided on doing which I am going to act on. Seriously, if you want your opinion heard, it's much better to join the GTM Discord. The poll will be changed to a decision between DSL and Ironforge. Stock and Retooled will definitely be part of the tournament.
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« on: August 30, 2016, 11:34:49 AM »
Righto, a holiday happened after the final and I didn't get around to recording, editing and uploading the few extra matches, but here they are:
And, with that done, I'm done with this tournament. An awards thread won't be necessary but thanks, again, to everyone that entered and congratulations to the top cut!
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« on: August 30, 2016, 11:28:16 AM »
So, although I like the idea of multiple metagames, I don't want to rush ideas too quickly and leave untested ones in the bin. This tournament will be annual, anyway, so people will soon know what they prefer and, perhaps, after the 3rd iteration, a multiple metagame tournament may be easier. For now, if you have even the slightest opinion on this subject and you want to give those views and vote on other propositions, please make my job easy and join the GTM Discord. You don't need to download anything, unlike Teamspeak, just make an account and join the discussion. The tournament will come about much faster and with a much better consensus, the more people that join in the discussion going on there. https://discord.gg/U5AJFC3
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« on: August 30, 2016, 11:06:56 AM »
That actually does seem like a much better way of getting everyone involved. In that case, there should be no reason why people don't enter. I'm fine with the amount work I'd be doing. Is there anyone that thinks this is a bad idea?
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« on: August 30, 2016, 09:29:11 AM »
I'll leave this poll up for a little longer but, because I can definitely see where people are coming from with the fact that Retooled is only in beta and may have undiscovered bugs, I'm willing to do another poll for safe measure, which will include Stock, DSL, Ironforge and Retooled.
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« on: August 30, 2016, 08:08:46 AM »
That is a very good point. However, I'm not trying to rush tbe discssions at this point. I want to give most members to have a chance at voting in the poll. So, hopefully, any kinks are ironed out in the time it takes to sort everything else out for the tournament.
However, I would hope that builders that find any possible exploits will come forward and tell Mr AS, rather than keep it to themselves for the tournament.
479
« on: August 30, 2016, 07:36:19 AM »
Rob has already proposed that but I'm worried about the demand for an IRL category, so there will be a poll about that soon.
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« on: August 30, 2016, 07:28:24 AM »
Is there anyone in that 12 that definitely wouldn't enter if it was Retooled (other than Mech)?
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